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treaves
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Any update on this?
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NyxAither
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Wow! This is amazing! I would like it if you posted a link to this in the useful links sections of the imaging and viewing forums unless you already have!
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Thomas
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treaves
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This isn't specific to this star map, but why is it that people have to bastardize the constellations, turning them into what they are not? Leo does NOT contain that many stars, and adding them in no way makes it look more like a lion.
How sad.
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jr_
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IMHO, when the charts are zoomed (as in section C), having the lines plotted helps a lot to relate the charts of one set to the others, helping to appraise better the region we are seeing, and making the navigation trough the charts easier and more intuitive. Without lines, relating the charts to the sky is unnecesairily harder. For me it is of great help, and honestly, I do not want to remove them, neither see the least problem with them. But it is just an opinion.
Edited by jr_ (03/23/09 12:36 PM)
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treaves
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No, I'm fine with lines. What I'm not fine is EXTRA/ALTERNATE lines. For example, your lines for Leo, in addition to not being authentic/original, look no more like a lion, and are impossible to point out to someone in the sky.
It's a monstrosity.
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Starman1
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Quote:
No, I'm fine with lines. What I'm not fine is EXTRA/ALTERNATE lines. For example, your lines for Leo, in addition to not being authentic/original, look no more like a lion, and are impossible to point out to someone in the sky.
It's a monstrosity.
Hmm.
I've looked at all the constellation drawings, and they resemble the charts I learned from Sky & Tel in the early '60s. It used to be common to connect a lot more dots than they do on contemporary charts because, I believe, most people then could see more stars in the sky.
The extra lines added on these charts are usually, so far as I can see, added to lead one to deep sky objects by star hopping along lines connecting stars, and so would be very useful to a dob owner using, say, a Telrad to find objects.
Plus the extra lines are certainly not obtrusive.
His Leo is very much the way I learned to connect the dots way back when, and the only extra lines I see are the line passing M65/66 and the zig-zag under Regulus, which is more commonly shown as a line connecting Regulus to o Leonis.
On the older maps of my youth, I used to appreciate extra lines connecting stars in the constellations as they helped the eye discriminate where the true constellation boundaries were. Such is the case here. I don't find the extra lines monstrous anywhere, since the basic lines are similar to the common drawings. I miss the complicated renderings of yesteryear. The simplified connect-the-dots patterns used on modern charts seem incomplete, to me.
What I object to is that the lines drawn to identify a star with its Bayer letter seem to be extra lines in the pattern, and THAT is visual pollution.
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Edited by Starman1 (03/24/09 02:14 AM)
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HfxObserver
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Nice charts!
Is there a way to get the panoramic referred to above?
-Chris
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jr_
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I have just updated all the the links in the main download page:
http://www.uv.es/jrtorres/triatlas.html
There must be no broken links now. You'll find there all files of the five editions, in both Europe and USA page formats (included the two panoramic editions).
Anyway, these are direct links to download the two panoramic editions (56 landscape charts, around 45x30º, reaching 9.8 magnitude and showing more objects than Sky Atlas 2000):
(1) In A3 for Europe
http://pixelsetphotons.com/triatlas/PROOF/Panoramic_A3_1.pdf
http://pixelsetphotons.com/triatlas/PROOF/Panoramic_A3_2.pdf
http://pixelsetphotons.com/triatlas/PROOF/Panoramic_A3_3.pdf
(2) In Tabloid for USA:
http://pixelsetphotons.com/triatlas/PROOF/Panoramic_Tabloid_1.pdf
http://pixelsetphotons.com/triatlas/PROOF/Panoramic_Tabloid_2.pdf
http://pixelsetphotons.com/triatlas/PROOF/Panoramic_Tabloid_3.pdf
Hope that all links are well set. If you detect any problem, please report to me or to Casey. Hope you'll like the panoramic sets!!! 
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PEterW
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Excellent news. Well done to everyone involved in this mammoth project! A truly amazing resource.
Thanks
PEterW
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star drop
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Thank you to all involved on this wonderful resource.
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Ted
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Magellan
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Just so you know, the index for the panorama set is A3 even for Tabloid and the index is also missing chart number references for most of Virgo and spring sky. All along the far right. The charts aren't missing, just the references 
I priced printing on tabloid and laminating each chart at around $205 CAN. But they can't spriral bind them at Staples, oh well. Not bad considering "other" atlases that do not go as deep and are not laminated run around the same price.
What I would really love to make is a Closeup of the Virgo Cluster, Pleiades and Orion. I nice acetate overlay with to scale telrad circles and various field of view circles with ones to scale with closeup charts. I wonder how I could make one of those.
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okiestarman56
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That would be a nice addition,Also if you bet and acetate overlay i'll take one to.
Clear Skies
Jerry
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joner
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Thank's for all your work and your free gift to the community jr.
I asked my cousin to print the A-set out for me in work on A3 and it is very clear and easy to read. I'm gonna be really nice to him and ask him to print me out the B-set in the next few wwek's .
Thank's again jr.
joner.
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jr_
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Thank you joner, I am more than pleased with your words . I did not print it scaled in A3 so far, but people who have done it tell me that they got great results. I use my copy in A4 format. If it is printed in normal page size (A4/letter), it is very important (I am not sure if most people realise of it) that do NOT print it shrinking to fit to the margins, because the fonts suffer a very dramatic reduction in size. It must be printed with no scaling down. The font size is the most important issue to solve, the rest is quite fine in the current version.
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WO FLT-132 APO
Binoc:25x100,20x80
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joner
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Here is a pic of the a full page of the A-set in A3 size sheet,
And a closeup of the same page in the region of Casiopia,
I need some clear sky's now  .
The Champion's league final is on tonight and I'le be rootin for Barcelona (I'm a neutral)in honour of jr's map's . I'm gonna bring my cousin out to see the match and be very very nice to him .
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8.75" ,f7.3 truss Dob ,Gso Crayford 10/1,
Hyperion zoom, Uwan 7mm, 32mm Swan ,2x Ultima Barlow and various other Ep's.
Bausch&Lombe 10x50.
1 Missus and 2 Kid's,
....And a ''FRICKEN LAyZZER beam''.
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jr_
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Posts: 221
Loc: Valencia, Spain
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Great images, joner!!! I'm sure that the weather will be as fine there as it is here right now (blue sky, no cloud). I just wish that the hellish work time I'm having in the last weeks will finish soon. Hehehe, I am not fan of football, but tonight I will do an exception and will support the Barcelona. Dark and clean skies there!!!
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10" LX-200 classic
WO FLT-132 APO
Binoc:25x100,20x80
Deep sky/software
http://www.uv.es/jrtorres
Edited by jr_ (05/27/09 11:48 AM)
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mcbbcn
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Hola Jose,
Mi nombre es Miguel Casas, y vivo en Portland, OR. Naci en Barcelona y entendio que siendo de Valencia, no seas fan del Barcelona, pero tambien entiendo porque haces una exception.
Te queria dar la enhorabuena por el maravilloso regalo que has hecho al mundo de la astronomia. Yo soy una astrofotografo amateur y cuando descubri el regalo que le has hechno a la comunidad astronomica, no me lo podia creer.
Te voy an enviar un email por separado tambien!!!
Saludos,
Miguel Casas
Portland, OR
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HfxObserver
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I believe there is an error on the chart B in the North American Nebula. The Chart shows B352 where I believe it is the location for B353, 352 would be farther North and much larger.
See Barnards Chart;
http://www.library.gatech.edu/Barnard_Project_W/chart/Bar-pt2-cht046_sm.jpg
Great Charts! I use them for most of my observing sessions.
-Chris
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Chris
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80mm William Optics Megrez II ED
Santel MK6
Borg 125SD f6 (Pentax/Oasis version)
Tak-Lapides
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