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BobinKy
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Re: The end of the binoculars (optical) in the XXI new [Re: Bensi]
      #3393349 - 10/16/09 04:48 PM

Marco...

Very nice photographs of your family. It is good to see you carry on the family tradition for binoculars.

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milt
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Re: The end of the binoculars (optical) in the XXI new [Re: Bensi]
      #3393378 - 10/16/09 05:02 PM

Marco, I enjoyed your old pictures as well - thank you for posting them.

As for the future of binoculars, I would think we will still need lenses to create the focal planes for the CCD's. But the prisms and eyepieces could be eliminated in your scenario.

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Bensi
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Zeiss Binoctem 7x50 or Dekarem 10x50 new [Re: milt]
      #3393414 - 10/16/09 05:31 PM Attachment (6 downloads)

Thank you very much for the nice words.

I tried to enlarge the image of binoculars around the neck of my great-grandfather and I seem to recognize a pattern Binoctem 7x50 or a Dekarem 10x50.
I'm not sure but looking at the magnification of similar models on eBay and catalogs of the period like that, I find them identical.
You see the knob of the Central Focus and the eyepieces are exactly the same .. what do you think?

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Marco Bensi
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C.P.GOERZ 1270/110 - 1910
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/37533746@N03/sets/72157622478972171/
Blog: http://blog.libero.it/GOERZ/

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BSJ
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Re: The end of the binoculars (optical) in the XXI new [Re: Bensi]
      #3393537 - 10/16/09 07:01 PM

Quote:

One photo of 1WW.




Wow, Really shows the importance they placed on optics back then!

Most US Soldiers today seem to only rely on the low power sights on their rifles…

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Re: Zeiss Binoctem 7x50 or Dekarem 10x50 new [Re: Bensi]
      #3393625 - 10/16/09 08:24 PM

Quote:

.. what do you think?



Marco, Sorry I cannot help. You know more about these binoculars than I do. Perhaps someone here can identify them.

Milt


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Bensi
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Re: Zeiss Binoctem 7x50 or Dekarem 10x50 new [Re: milt]
      #3394052 - 10/17/09 03:55 AM

I see many Binoctem and Dekarem (catalogue Zeiss and ebay sell).

Are identical to binoculars what my grandfather had his neck at the time.

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Marco Bensi
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C.P.GOERZ 1270/110 - 1910
Binoculars Gallery
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37533746@N03/sets/72157622478972171/
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KBK
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Re: The end of the binoculars (optical) in the XXI new [Re: Bensi]
      #3395378 - 10/17/09 11:25 PM

Regarding the aspect of digital binoculars:

The technology cannot, for some time yet, replace the subtlety of that which can be seen with the eye.

It CAN enhance and expand on what is there in a falsified way, but it cannot dynamically scale the same way as an eye can or contrast as well as a human eye. Not yet, at least.

I've done years and years of work in modification and single cause analysis in display technology and associated optics...and we have yet to come close to the capacity for subtlety of signal and resolution the the eye can do. This will only occur in a properly executed revolutionary change in the current technology level with regards to display devices. It also takes a person or design crew that has an understanding of the absolute limit of human capacity, not a fixation on textbook limits.

I hope to have fun with such digital binoculars and they very likely will become the standard in the future-but not yet!

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Bensi
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Re: The end of the binoculars (optical) in the XXI [Re: KBK]
      #3395668 - 10/18/09 05:40 AM

Quote:


I hope to have fun with such digital binoculars and they very likely will become the standard in the future-but not yet!




Something begins to move, but for me .. .. romantic collector of binoculars is a different emotion.

But I am fully agree with you.

There are examples of optical and digital but we are not yet complete replacement of lenses.

http://www.opticsplanet.net/bushnell-25x42-nvb.html
http://www.intellisec.it/pdf/ISS-NOFF.pdf

Bye

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Marco Bensi
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C.P.GOERZ 1270/110 - 1910
Binoculars Gallery
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37533746@N03/sets/72157622478972171/
Blog: http://blog.libero.it/GOERZ/


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