Return to the Cloudy Nights Telescope Reviews home page
   · Get a Cloudy Nights T-Shirt · Submit a Review / Article   

Click here if you are having trouble logging into the forums

Privacy Policy | Please read our Terms of Service | Signup and Troubleshooting FAQ | Problems? PM a Red or a Green Gu.... uh, User

Equipment Discussions >> Binoculars

Pages: 1
EdZModerator
Professor EdZ
*****

Reged: 02/15/02
Posts: 14731
Loc: Cumberland, R I , USA42N71.4W
viewing for pleasure
      #3402336 - 10/21/09 02:40 PM

past few nights some PM some AM

Garrett Optical 22x85, I've had two of these for a while and recently put one up for sale. It sold in less than 24 hours. This was the last observing session with this binocular before I packed it up to ship to Greece.

Also had my TV85 with a few eyepieces. Used mostly 24mm Tak LE (25x) 18mmTakLE(33x), 12.5mm TakLE(48x) and 10mmRadian(60x).

M31, M32 and M110 all visible at once in the 22x85. M31 extension grew with time, seemed to encompas both other small galaxies. Length appeared to extend to or at least near edges of fov.

tried Almach with the binocs and couldn't see it. So I put the scope on it (reversed L-R) at 33x and found the secondary, beautiful blue. When I went back to the binoculars, in brief moments I could see it. nearby M76 was seen, pretty faint, but quite obvious.

7789 in Cas in the 22x85 was a broad diffuse glow, but not resolved. In the scope at 33x, I could resolved about 20 stars, although the glow was not quite the same in the scope.

22x85 - In the double cluster, the preceeding cluster can be seen to have a small curved asterism I call the cup, almost dead center. At the open end of the cup is a single bright star. The cup can be seen clearly in the 22x85s made up of 5 stars in a curve. this made me think of the Barry Simon project to develop photos depicting what cluster look like through various binoculars. At 22x, the central core of the preceeding cluster shows this cup.

I stuck with the 22x85s for a while and took a tour down thru Cassiopiea-Perseus-into Camelopardalis.

In Cas, M103 to the three nearby clusters, 659, 663, and 654. The faintest 659 showed up very well. Then from the double cluster, over to the runnng man, Stock 2, then to the double OSS??, it's 64" and could easily be seen anywhere within the entire fov. Mrk6 showed its little straight line. Two cluster involved in IC1805, ??? and 1027, both seen fairly large. Then I saw just a spot of stars that I could call 1848. Tr3 was easy to find.

A drop further east and kemble's cascade came into view. very nice, ending at cluster 1502 with an 18" double in the center. From there, almost due north, to a small grouping of four stars that cradle the extremely faint galaxy IC342. This is one of those nights that at best all I can say is, I thought I saw it.

M33 stood out easily in the 22x85, very large.

Mesartim was split. A nice pair for this binocular, even and only 7.8" close.

In the AM
The Trapezium was beautiful! The extension glow of the nebula fanned out to make the bird shape that I see, with the little circular spot of M43 as the head. All four members of the Trap clearly resolved in the 22x85. In the scope at 48x, I could see the E component, but not F.

M78 - could barely just make out that there are stars invloved. In the scope at 48x, I could easily see two stars in M78.

In Sigma Orionis, in the scope I saw 8 stars that make up "the little Sagitta" arrow asterism. In the 22x85s, I could only see 6 of those stars.

The binoculars could not resolve Castor, but the scope did easily at 48x.

I finished off the late morning with a view of M44' The Beehive, in each. in the binoculars at 22x, I counted about 80-90 stars in the hive. With the scope, I think at 33x, I counted between 100-110 stars.

A very nice last session with these before I send them on their way. Good luck to their new owner.

edz

--------------------
Teach a kid something today. The feeling you'll get is one of life's greatest rewards.
member#21


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
KennyJ

*****

Reged: 04/27/03
Posts: 12899
Loc: Lancashire UK
Re: viewing for pleasure new [Re: EdZ]
      #3402351 - 10/21/09 02:45 PM

Nice report , Ed !

That should whet the appetite of the buyer very nicely !

Kenny


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
milt
professor emeritus
*****

Reged: 09/13/04
Posts: 553
Loc: Arizona
Re: viewing for pleasure new [Re: EdZ]
      #3402498 - 10/21/09 03:57 PM

Ed, thanks for the OR - A nice send off for the GO 22x85 and a great list for the new owner to work on.

I too was out with the Highlander (however it's not going anywhere) using 32x for the whole session. I enjoyed some of the same objects as you, but also added some whimsical objects from Sue French's past Deep Sky Wonders in Sky & Telescope. You have probably observed most of these but I had never seen any of them before:

The "Fairy Ring" in Cyg from 9/07 DSW - An irregular circle of 15-20 stars in a rich area of the Milky Way, averted vision aided definition.

TPK 1 asterism in And from 11/08 DSW - Distinct trapezoidal shape was reinforced by additional AV stars.

Home Plate asterism in And from 11/08 DSW - Large and bright with double stars at the point and one corner, would look great in any binocular.

Delphinus Minor in Peg from 12/07 DSW - Sure enough, a baby dolphin!

Renou 18 in Psc from 12/08 DSW - Roundish grouping of ~15 stars and very cluster-like, but apparently it's not one...

Alan if you're reading, please tell Sue how much we appreciate that she continues to include binocular objects in Deep Sky Wonders.

Milt


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
EdZModerator
Professor EdZ
*****

Reged: 02/15/02
Posts: 14731
Loc: Cumberland, R I , USA42N71.4W
Re: viewing for pleasure new [Re: milt]
      #3402554 - 10/21/09 04:16 PM

great selection Milt.

I sometimes use Sue's book "60 Small Scope Tours" as a binocular viewing guide.

edz

For quite a few months now, I've had four 22x binoculars in the house. In about a week, I'll have only one. At least, Peter thinks so.

edz

--------------------
Teach a kid something today. The feeling you'll get is one of life's greatest rewards.
member#21


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
BobinKy
Carpal Tunnel
*****

Reged: 04/27/07
Posts: 1683
Re: viewing for pleasure new [Re: EdZ]
      #3402607 - 10/21/09 04:40 PM

EdZ & Milt...

Nice reports to take us into the fall observing season.

--------------------
Bob
38°N


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
rookie
scholastic sledgehammer
*****

Reged: 01/14/06
Posts: 878
Loc: St. Petersburg, FL
Re: viewing for pleasure new [Re: BobinKy]
      #3405247 - 10/22/09 10:53 PM

Thanks for the viewing reports and the asterism targets.
I'll give them a try

--------------------
SV
Scope: Celestron CPC8
Binoculars: Garrett GT80~45, Fujinon 16x70, Regals 10x42, Ultima 9x63, Nikon AE 8x40



Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Luigi
Post Laureate
*****

Reged: 07/03/07
Posts: 4940
Loc: MA
Re: viewing for pleasure new [Re: rookie]
      #3405688 - 10/23/09 07:33 AM

>>>viewing for pleasure.<<<

Now there's a concept! Sounds lots better than viewing for the purposed of agonizing over your bin's imperfect optical performance, though from the sounds of it, there are a lot of masochists out there.

--------------------
17.5" f/5 Dob. IM-715 MCT. 120ED. Lunt 60mm Ha.
Zeiss, Leica, Fujinon, Nikon, Pentax, Bushnell bins


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
EdZModerator
Professor EdZ
*****

Reged: 02/15/02
Posts: 14731
Loc: Cumberland, R I , USA42N71.4W
Re: viewing for pleasure new [Re: Luigi]
      #3414175 - 10/27/09 02:09 PM

another morning session, this time with my 22x85. The others are packed to ship.

The Trapezium was easily split to 4 stars, and the extension of nebula always makes this a beautiful sight.

Saw M78, and I can tell there are stars involved, but really can't tell that it's two stars.

The Christmas Tree cluster desrved a stop by, and I noticed the close 7" mag 7 pair just below the tip, although I could just tell it is elongated.

In Perseus, I looked at the trapezoid and notice cluster ?1545 just north of it.

I moved to find Kemble's Cascade and used that to spot cluster 1502 and the 18" double within.

I also used the chevron attached to Kemble's Cascade to point me north for IC342. This morning I saw it, but just barely and only averted.

I stopped by the Big Dipper to see M81 and M82. These were very large and qute bright, with distinctly contrasting shapes.

I also found M97, extremely faint, but did not see M108. Looked for M109, but couldn't see it.

In Leo, I spotted M65 and M66, the one to the NW being fainter. I looked for M95, M96 and M105. I saw two of them but only fleeting moments.

Mars was closing in on the Beehive. I was able to see Mars at the very edge of my 3° fov with the Beehive mostly in the fov.

Viewed several more doubles and clusters. One was 11Mon, also about 7 arcseconds and cleanly split. Clusters were M38 and M36, Orions head, several obscure clusters on Mono. Aslo spotted galaxy 2903 between Cancer and Leo.

Nice morning while I had my coffee outside. I haven't seen a lot of galaxies lately. Like visiting some old friends.

edz

--------------------
Teach a kid something today. The feeling you'll get is one of life's greatest rewards.
member#21


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
BobinKy
Carpal Tunnel
*****

Reged: 04/27/07
Posts: 1683
Re: viewing for pleasure new [Re: EdZ]
      #3414446 - 10/27/09 04:43 PM

EdZ...

Another nice observing report with the 22x85.

--------------------
Bob
38°N


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Solar B
scholastic sledgehammer


Reged: 02/28/07
Posts: 912
Loc: By Edinburgh , Scotland
Re: viewing for pleasure new [Re: Luigi]
      #3414840 - 10/27/09 08:11 PM

Quote:

>>>viewing for pleasure.<<<

Now there's a concept! Sounds lots better than viewing for the purposed of agonizing over your bin's imperfect optical performance, though from the sounds of it, there are a lot of masochists out there.





I think thats hilarious Luigi
I think we all fall into that trap from time to time

Judging by the complexity of Edz & Milts reports ive
a lot to learn though.

Brian

--------------------
" Gentlemen only ever use Refractors "


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
jkevn
sage


Reged: 03/02/06
Posts: 211
Loc: Tucson, Arizona
Re: viewing for pleasure new [Re: Solar B]
      #3415135 - 10/27/09 10:49 PM

Quote:

Quote:

>>>viewing for pleasure.<<<

Now there's a concept! Sounds lots better than viewing for the purposed of agonizing over your bin's imperfect optical performance, though from the sounds of it, there are a lot of masochists out there.





I think thats hilarious Luigi
I think we all fall into that trap from time to time

Judging by the complexity of Edz & Milts reports ive
a lot to learn though.

Brian




I think that evaluating different binocular's optical and mechanical characteristics can be fun. It's a learning process. But, it can be disappointing if you order binoculars that don't live up to your expectations, despite doing lots of online research, or even trying them out in the store first before you buy them; but that is part of the learning process. Trial and error.

I think that eventually, if you stick with it, you end up with binoculars or a collection of binoculars (or telescopes) that you are comfortable with, with known limitations and/or advantages, that fit your interests and budget. It would be nice to have Zeiss or Nikon SEs of course. But even these binoculars have pincushion distortion, chromatic aberration and field curvature...but just less...

After having gone through this learning process for a while, trying several binoculars or telescopes, when you do observe a beautiful celestial object with an instrument that you know well and like--just to admire the view--I think the viewing pleasure is very dramatically enhanced.

Kevin


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Pages: 1


Extra information
8 registered and 19 anonymous users are browsing this forum.

Moderator:  EdZ 

Print Thread

Forum Permissions
      You cannot start new topics
      You cannot reply to topics
      HTML is disabled
      UBBCode is enabled


Thread views: 463

Jump to

CN Forums Home



Cloudy Nights Sponsor: Astronomics