Return to the Cloudy Nights Telescope Reviews home page
   · Get a Cloudy Nights T-Shirt · Submit a Review / Article   

Click here if you are having trouble logging into the forums

Privacy Policy | Please read our Terms of Service | Signup and Troubleshooting FAQ | Problems? PM a Red or a Green Gu.... uh, User

Astrophotography and Sketching >> Sketching

Pages: 1
markseibold
Pooh-Bah


Reged: 01/19/08
Posts: 1084
Loc: Portland Oregon
Moon Impression Pastel July 8~9 '09 - New Photo new
      #3395723 - 10/18/09 07:39 AM

The new photographic image of the large lunar pastel impression that I produced July 8 ~ 9 2009

The old and new together for comparison follows in the next window. If your eyes can stand to flex their muscles a little, the two differing photo images can be seen as a stereoscopic effect that is slightly 3`D. This pastel is on black Stonehenge 22" X 30" pastel paper; the moons disc was sketched at 16" diameter. -Mark

New Image was photographed from a Sigma 35mm SLR Digital camera with a 50mm ~ 150mm Sigma lens >


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
markseibold
Pooh-Bah


Reged: 01/19/08
Posts: 1084
Loc: Portland Oregon
Re: Moon Impression Pastel July 8~9 '09 - New Photo new [Re: markseibold]
      #3395729 - 10/18/09 07:44 AM

New image [left] with old on [right] for comparison *The stereoscopic effect is most apparent by placing the eyes approximately 12" from the screen - It may take some practice and patience to see this >


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
deister
super member


Reged: 02/21/07
Posts: 103
Loc: Germany
Re: Moon Impression Pastel July 8~9 '09 - New Photo new [Re: markseibold]
      #3395732 - 10/18/09 07:51 AM

Hi Mark,

3D effect works well. My congratulations to this masterpiece. This would be a dream for my collection of art.

Clear skies

--------------------
Paul

Member of the Backnanger Sterngucker
(stargazers of the area round Backnang, Germany)
www.bksterngucker.de


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
frank5817
Post Laureate
*****

Reged: 06/13/06
Posts: 4087
Loc: Illinois
Re: Moon Impression Pastel July 8~9 '09 - New Pho new [Re: deister]
      #3396429 - 10/18/09 03:27 PM

Mark,

Yes this one works better than the other one to my eyes in 3-D. Beautiful.

Frank

--------------------
my gallery


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
CarlosEH
Post Laureate
*****

Reged: 01/19/05
Posts: 4140
Loc: Pembroke Pines, Broward County...
Re: Moon Impression Pastel July 8~9 '09 - New Pho new [Re: frank5817]
      #3396861 - 10/18/09 07:32 PM

Mark,

The new image exhibits more luminance and does appear more three-dimensional. Thank you for sharing it with us all. I look forward to your future observations.

Carlos

--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
markseibold
Pooh-Bah


Reged: 01/19/08
Posts: 1084
Loc: Portland Oregon
Re: Moon Impression Pastel July 8~9 '09 - New Pho new [Re: CarlosEH]
      #3397462 - 10/19/09 05:00 AM

Paul, Frank and Carlos

Thanks again to all of you. I actually discovered this stereoscopic process as accidental due to my friends stereo imaging work strictly with photographic images while he re-photographed my art work. I did not intend to display a stereo pastel image of my past works. I merely meant to post a comparison of the past image with the new photographed art work but when I used the stereo viewing technique of these two differing images combined, and I saw the 3-D effect, I was stunned. I may try to create more of these. Now I am interested in this accidental discovery as possibly a new venture.

Do any of you see any value in displaying observational astronomy hand sketched images in stereo 3-D vision. Have I stumbled onto something useful or is it only a novelty?

Just to explain, each image is slightly different. You cannot simply put two identical images side by side and create the stereo 3-D visual effect. Each photo must be a slightloy differing perspective; hence the true stereo imaging is done with two separate cameras separated some distance as like our eyes are separated but the cameras must be a more extreme distance apart, say several feet.
I am not sure why two duplicate sketch images create the stereo effect, other than each is slightly different in lineage due to differing camera imaging.

Mark

Edited by markseibold (10/19/09 05:11 AM)


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
deister
super member


Reged: 02/21/07
Posts: 103
Loc: Germany
Re: Moon Impression Pastel July 8~9 '09 - New Pho new [Re: markseibold]
      #3397480 - 10/19/09 05:48 AM

Mark

see this thread:

http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3284224/page/2/view/collapsed/sb/5/o/all/fpart/all/vc/1

You will find a lot of information there.

Clear Skies

--------------------
Paul

Member of the Backnanger Sterngucker
(stargazers of the area round Backnang, Germany)
www.bksterngucker.de


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
markseibold
Pooh-Bah


Reged: 01/19/08
Posts: 1084
Loc: Portland Oregon
Re: Moon Impression Pastel July 8~9 '09 - New Pho new [Re: deister]
      #3398556 - 10/19/09 05:22 PM

Thanks Paul

And I thought I was going overboard about posting these accidental findings of mine about stereo 3-D. I am glad to see that many others discovered this long ago. Conversely I am sorry to see that a few cannot experience it due to trouble with their eyes. It is an amazing experience of seemingly reality when it works. -Mark


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
nunciusaustralis
super member


Reged: 09/25/09
Posts: 100
Loc: Rio de janeiro, Brazil
Re: Moon Impression Pastel July 8~9 '09 - New Photo new [Re: markseibold]
      #3398861 - 10/19/09 08:05 PM

The 3d is efective . Actually both have it. . Stereoscopy on sketchin. I studied this with aerial photos Great.

--------------------
Nuncius Australis

70mm celestron EQ
9x50 finderscope
15X80mm binocular
20mm e 10mm k eye pieces
2xomni barlow
www.nunciusaustralis.blogspot.com


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
markseibold
Pooh-Bah


Reged: 01/19/08
Posts: 1084
Loc: Portland Oregon
Re: Moon Impression Pastel July 8~9 '09 - New Photo [Re: nunciusaustralis]
      #3402510 - 10/21/09 04:01 PM

Nuncius

Thanks for your interest in this. I'm glad that you noticed the stereo effects as some people cannot. Can you tell us anything of the technical aspects about aerial photography as this relates?

Thanks again for any further information,

Mark


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Pages: 1


Extra information
2 registered and 2 anonymous users are browsing this forum.

Moderator:  Charlie Hein, cildarith 

Print Thread

Forum Permissions
      You cannot start new topics
      You cannot reply to topics
      HTML is disabled
      UBBCode is enabled


Thread views: 154

Jump to

CN Forums Home



Cloudy Nights Sponsor: Astronomics