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Jeff in Austin
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Atlas soaked. Suggetstions?
      #3408370 - 10/24/09 03:06 PM

Last night finished imaging arond 3am and kicked off a set of darks and turned in. Everything was good and dewy by that hour. However, around 5:30 I heard the irrigation system go off. So the Atlas was not just dewy, it was soaked. I had already taken in the laptop and guide camera, so the power, HC, and guider connectors were open.

So I dried everything off as best I could and blew out the connectors with a bulb blower. Is there anythinge else I should be worried about?

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Re: Atlas soaked. Suggetstions? new [Re: Jeff in Austin]
      #3408375 - 10/24/09 03:09 PM

I would just let it get good and dry for a few days before turning it on again.

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Re: Atlas soaked. Suggetstions? new [Re: mewmartigan]
      #3408383 - 10/24/09 03:12 PM

Remember: Water doesn't kill electronics. Water + electricity is what kills them, due to short circuits. Give it enough time to dry before applying power and you should be okay. I don't know if a couple of days is enough, though. The longer the better.

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Re: Atlas soaked. Suggetstions? new [Re: Adrian Lopez]
      #3408539 - 10/24/09 04:51 PM

Try baking it in the oven. Just don't set the oven on Broil.

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Re: Atlas soaked. Suggetstions? new [Re: fetoma]
      #3408617 - 10/24/09 05:34 PM

Typical electronics boards can be exposed to 120-130 oF ambient temps without problems.

I dry out my CCD camera, when the [unregulated] thermocooler dews-up the glass window, by placing it above a 100 watt light and enclosing both within a carboard box and a movable lid, such as to partially trap the upward flow of heat. I also use a temp sensor (thermocouple type with 2 oF resolution) below the camera and adjust the top opening between the lid and the box until the box temp reaches about 120oF. Also, make sure to leave an opening at the bottom of the box to promote air circulation.

Let it "cook" for 1-2 hours. I may be a good idea also to open the motor board to assist the evaporation process.

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Re: Atlas soaked. Suggetstions? new [Re: Jeff in Austin]
      #3409499 - 10/25/09 08:30 AM

I had a laptop get seriously wet one time so I used a wet/dry shop vac to suck all the moisture out of it which worked well. To me this is safer than cooking it in the oven like a loaf of bread.

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Re: Atlas soaked. Suggetstions? new [Re: tturtle]
      #3409515 - 10/25/09 08:42 AM

Do what cell phone centers do when a cell gets dunked. Don't power it up. Put it in a bag of rice for a few days. Rice soaks up moisture lika a sponge. If it works for cells, I'm sure the hand controller and circuit board would be fine.

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Re: Atlas soaked. Suggetstions? new [Re: t.r.]
      #3410164 - 10/25/09 02:41 PM

I've had pretty good luck in these situations with a partial disassembly and hair dryer on low heat. Definitely wait as long as you can before turning it back on again.

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Jeff in Austin
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Re: Atlas soaked. Suggetstions? new [Re: johnnyha]
      #3410771 - 10/25/09 08:46 PM

Thanks for the suggestions, guys. I have everything airing out for another day or two.

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Re: Atlas soaked. Suggetstions? new [Re: Jeff in Austin]
      #3411421 - 10/26/09 08:36 AM

I've fixed things like cordless phones and remote controls that got dunked by removing the outer cover then pouring a whole bottle of rubbing alcohol onto the circuit board. Hang it up diagonally so the fluid runs down to a corner. Leave it open for a day or two before applying power. The alcohol pulls the water into solution and makes it evaporate a lot faster. Definitely don't power up until dry. Electrolysis can occur between any two dissimilar metals with a conductive path(water) even without a voltage difference. Powering up just accelerates the process.

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Re: Atlas soaked. Suggetstions? new [Re: Jeff in Austin]
      #3413766 - 10/27/09 10:16 AM

I installed a ball valve in the line leading to my irrigation valves, it's always off when my scopes are out. Even the best irrigation controllers have been known to go rogue. I had a very near miss with my C 9.25 once, I got it off the lawn a coulple of seconds before the sprinklers came on. I would run fans on your mount, this has worked well for me when drying out wood flooring that got wet. David

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Re: Atlas soaked. Suggetstions? new [Re: Arctic_Eddie]
      #3413895 - 10/27/09 11:35 AM

Quote:

I've fixed things like cordless phones and remote controls that got dunked by removing the outer cover then pouring a whole bottle of rubbing alcohol onto the circuit board. Hang it up diagonally so the fluid runs down to a corner. Leave it open for a day or two before applying power. The alcohol pulls the water into solution and makes it evaporate a lot faster. Definitely don't power up until dry. Electrolysis can occur between any two dissimilar metals with a conductive path(water) even without a voltage difference. Powering up just accelerates the process.




I doubt this is necessary for the mount. To be honest, I doubt there was much water intrusion, anyhow.

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Re: Atlas soaked. Suggetstions? new [Re: rmollise]
      #3417299 - 10/28/09 11:19 PM

Throw in some big bags of silica gel and button it up. Concur on baking in the oven, although I'd be worried about the grease running. Also I think the main problem other than shorting the electronics is water hydrolyzing the grease, which could be made worse by heating.

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