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Itz marcus
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Siebert black night 22mm vs Denk standard/earthwin new
      #3402792 - 10/21/09 06:08 PM

Hi,
Which do you recommend? The 22mm ca of the black night doesn't bother me at all.
Are these three in the same optical quality category or is one better.
I am asking about the optical quality of the bino itself not the fact that there is a powerswitch option with the denk and earthwin and a powermag wheeletc. with the siebert.

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Covey32
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Re: Siebert black night 22mm vs Denk standard/earthwin new [Re: Itz marcus]
      #3402798 - 10/21/09 06:12 PM

In that case I consider it a tossup. They are both optically excellent, to my eyes.(I can only speak of the Denk standards, since I've not used the enhanced Denks.)

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Hank

12.5" Mag1 Portaball
Orion 120mm F5 Refractor
Skywatcher 120ED F7.5 Refractor
1982 Celestron C8 Orange tube
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Itz marcus
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Re: Siebert black night 22mm vs Denk standard/earthwin new [Re: Covey32]
      #3402837 - 10/21/09 06:31 PM

Hi Hank,
I really appreciate your answers and thank you for the support.
Clear Skies

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Eon 120 ED
Stellarvue bv3
Gas is only worth it in the stars not at the pump


Edited by Itz marcus (10/21/09 06:32 PM)


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Re: Siebert black night 22mm vs Denk standard/earthwin new [Re: Itz marcus]
      #3403332 - 10/21/09 11:01 PM

Never used the Siebert brand of binoviewers before.
But I have viewed through the Denk Standards and the EarthWin standards during the same night.
They were like twins. Neither,out done the other visually.

Same with the Denk II's and the EarthWin Dielectrics.
They are one in the same visually.

Mechanically, the edge goes to the EarthWin since they have
camber adjust diopiters rather than the screw type of the Denks.

CS's
Joey

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Earthwin Binoviewer with Dielectric P/F Switch
Matched Pair of 24 Pan's


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Re: Siebert black night 22mm vs Denk standard/earthwin new [Re: arowana]
      #3407007 - 10/23/09 08:19 PM

Hi

I have the Black Knight 22 Bino and it is terrific. Harry Siebert makes excellent optical equipment and I unreservedly recommend his products. Also -- I have the Power Mag wheel and it is also an incredibly good accessory to use with the binoviewer. one ep with either 3, 4, or 5 mags. You might consider it an essential accessory. You would not regret getting Siebert equipment.

Hope this helps,
Howard

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ETX-90-RA
ATM'ed-8"f/8 and 4.25"f/10 planetary Newtonians
Brandon eyepieces: 48mm,32mm,24mm,7/8",12mm,16mm,8mm,6mm,4mm (yes-4mm; special build in 1985 from 1960 optics)
Double set for binoviewing
Dakin 2.4x Barlow
Vintage ep's:
Gailand 7mm WF, 16.3mm (THE Galoc), Bertele 18mm
Siebert Optics:
Black Knight BinoViewer, 0.6x-1x-2x Power Wheel, 4x-8x telecentric zoom barlow
Astro-Tech Titan WF ep's: 38mm, 32mm, 26mm, 20mm, 15mm, 10mm

Edited by LDb (10/23/09 08:21 PM)


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Itz marcus
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Re: Siebert black night 22mm vs Denk standard/earthwin [Re: LDb]
      #3409985 - 10/25/09 01:33 PM

Hi,
Thanx so much for the replies. They have really helped!

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ruachsheavens
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denk vs earthwin new [Re: arowana]
      #3435973 - 11/08/09 09:07 AM

Quote:

Mechanically, the edge goes to the EarthWin since they have
camber adjust diopiters rather than the screw type of the Denks.




what is a camber adjust diopter?

thanks!

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Re: Siebert black night 22mm vs Denk standard/earthwin new [Re: arowana]
      #3436467 - 11/08/09 02:12 PM

Quote:



Same with the Denk II's and the EarthWin Dielectrics.
They are one in the same visually.






As far as I can tell from their advertising, the Earthwin binoviewer is the same whether it is purchased with their standard or dielectric diagonal.

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Re: Siebert black night 22mm vs Denk standard/earthwin new [Re: davidpitre]
      #3436486 - 11/08/09 02:23 PM

You are right about the Binoviewers David. You get the same diopter adjust with either binoviewer.
The body's are the same.
The only difference in the binoviewer is the beam splitter.
You get standard coatings on the basic binoviewer and dielectric coatings on the Dielectric version.

CS's
Joey

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Earthwin Binoviewer with Dielectric P/F Switch
Matched Pair of 24 Pan's


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Re: denk vs earthwin new [Re: ruachsheavens]
      #3436491 - 11/08/09 02:24 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Mechanically, the edge goes to the EarthWin since they have
camber adjust diopiters rather than the screw type of the Denks.






CS's
Joey

what is a camber adjust diopter?

thanks!




Sent you a PM with an explination.

CS's
Joey

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Earthwin Binoviewer with Dielectric P/F Switch
Matched Pair of 24 Pan's


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warf
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Re: denk vs earthwin new [Re: arowana]
      #3442555 - 11/11/09 05:39 PM

I wanted to know too

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Marsh
Celestron NS 11 GPS, Denk Standard Binoviewer, Pair of Denk 21 EP, Denk PowerSwitch Diagonal, Denk PST Corrector, Coronado PST Double Stacked, WO ZS80 Anniversary,Celestron 15x70 Binoculars


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