Karl_Bonner_1982
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I seem to recall seeing the two main belts at 25x through the 90mm Meade achro I borrowed. Wonder if it's possible to see them at even lower powers - say, 15x? That would put them just within the range of larger binoculars.
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dyslexic nam
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I have a pair of 15x70 celestrons, and I don't see the belts at that magnification. All I really see are the 4 jovian moons strung out nicely.
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RLTYS
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Karl
Using a 76mm Celestron FirstScope f4 refl I have glimpsed Jupiters North and South Equatorial Belts at 63x.
Rich (RLTYS)
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4" F5 Refr. (Genesis)
3" F4 Celestron FirstScope
50mm F12 Refr. (Tasco #6TE-5)
12x63 and 10x50 Binoculars.
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Reverie
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I seem to recall seeing the two main belts at 25x through the 90mm Meade achro I borrowed. Wonder if it's possible to see them at even lower powers - say, 15x? That would put them just within the range of larger binoculars.
I have never seen Jupiter's belts with a pair of 15x70 binocular.
However with a 102mm refractor, at 20x I can notice the belts.
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starrancher
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50mm Tasco classic at 48x pulled it off .  Also showed the polar regions .
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Edited by starrancher (10/31/09 11:09 AM)
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Astrojensen
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Guys, you're using way too much aperture for this kind of test. The reason it isn't possible to see the belts at 15x with a 15x70 binoculars is that the glare is so strong, the belts simply disappear. Try stopping down the scope or binoculars to 20 - 25mm (1") instead to lower the surface brightness to a more suitable level.
Clear skies!
Thomas, Denmark
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Karl_Bonner_1982
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Guys, you're using way too much aperture for this kind of test. The reason it isn't possible to see the belts at 15x with a 15x70 binoculars is that the glare is so strong, the belts simply disappear. Try stopping down the scope or binoculars to 20 - 25mm (1") instead to lower the surface brightness to a more suitable level.
This is an interesting idea. For once, aperture may actually be working against us? (maybe that's the reason Jupiter looks so good through moderately small refractors!)
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brianb11213
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This is an interesting idea. For once, aperture may actually be working against us?
Try observing in twilight; keep the aperture, lose the glare. Planets are always always sharper in bright twilight, to me. (There is often a "window" of relatively steady seeing, too.)
I've seen more than a hint of the two principal dark belts on Jupiter, in twilight, with nothing more than 10x50 binoculars (of impeccable quality).
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cavefrog
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I have been using the small hole in the dust cover of my new
a80mf, and have been getting pretty good results with it. but I have been cranking up the power instead of sticking with this thread. (sorry had to do 'er) 
Theo
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Shadowalker
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I found that Jupiter appeared with better contrast when I stopped down my 8 inch F5 newt to about 4 inches. The longest EP I have is 28mm, giving 35x. I could see banding.
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Sarkikos
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Don't stop down the scope. I never give back any of my aperture. You will lose resolving power. Use filters, instead. You will just lose some of the light. I like a green filter on Jupiter for the GRS and bands. #58 or #56 are good for an 8" or 10" Newt. IMHO, of course, and YMMV.
By the way, I could have sworn I'd seen the two equatorial bands on Jupiter through my 15x70 when I had it on a tripod. Not very clearly, of course, but I could tell they were there. Something to double-check the next time.
Mike
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Zhumell 8" f6 Newt, Bosma 6" f12 MCT (NSO)
6" f5 Newt, 130ST, 4.5" f4.4 Ball w/GLP, ST80 w/Crayford (RFTs)
C4-R (NSO/DS)
90mm f13 MCT (Luna/DS)
SkyMaster 25x100, 15x70
Zhumell 20x80
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OptiView LPR 10x50
Const View 2.3x40
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starrancher
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I'll second the motion on the #56 & #58 Green filters For Jupiter .
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Sarkikos
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Yessir. 
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Zhumell 8" f6 Newt, Bosma 6" f12 MCT (NSO)
6" f5 Newt, 130ST, 4.5" f4.4 Ball w/GLP, ST80 w/Crayford (RFTs)
C4-R (NSO/DS)
90mm f13 MCT (Luna/DS)
SkyMaster 25x100, 15x70
Zhumell 20x80
Barska XWA 10x50, 8x40
OptiView LPR 10x50
Const View 2.3x40
BV-125C
CG5, 2 drv / CG4, 2 drv, wood legs, ScopeStuff saddle / CG3, 1 drv
SV AZ / 501HDV on Bogen 055XB / P+ on Oberwerk
QuikFinder, Telrad
Orion Dynamo Pro 12, Dew-Not
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starrancher
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Hey , I'm from Northern Arizona not San Francisco !... 
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Misc. other stuff
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Edited by starrancher (11/05/09 12:27 PM)
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Sarkikos
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The rainbow signifies color filters, no more, no less! 
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Celestron 10" f5 Newt on 1stBase (DSO)
Zhumell 8" f6 Newt, Bosma 6" f12 MCT (NSO)
6" f5 Newt, 130ST, 4.5" f4.4 Ball w/GLP, ST80 w/Crayford (RFTs)
C4-R (NSO/DS)
90mm f13 MCT (Luna/DS)
SkyMaster 25x100, 15x70
Zhumell 20x80
Barska XWA 10x50, 8x40
OptiView LPR 10x50
Const View 2.3x40
BV-125C
CG5, 2 drv / CG4, 2 drv, wood legs, ScopeStuff saddle / CG3, 1 drv
SV AZ / 501HDV on Bogen 055XB / P+ on Oberwerk
QuikFinder, Telrad
Orion Dynamo Pro 12, Dew-Not
Have GLP and not afraid to use it!
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brmillsy
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I've found that a blue filter is really helpful in bringing out the cloud bands. Some fairly amazing details in my 8" SCT at around 100X.
I have not tried green yet - will give it a go.
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Plossols: 4mm, 6mm, 9mm, 15mm, 25mm, 32mm
Naglers: 5mm, 7mm
Ethos: 13mm
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Sarkikos
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brmillsy,
What Wratten number(s) for the blue filter? I've tried them all, not too bad, but green was better.
Mike
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Celestron 10" f5 Newt on 1stBase (DSO)
Zhumell 8" f6 Newt, Bosma 6" f12 MCT (NSO)
6" f5 Newt, 130ST, 4.5" f4.4 Ball w/GLP, ST80 w/Crayford (RFTs)
C4-R (NSO/DS)
90mm f13 MCT (Luna/DS)
SkyMaster 25x100, 15x70
Zhumell 20x80
Barska XWA 10x50, 8x40
OptiView LPR 10x50
Const View 2.3x40
BV-125C
CG5, 2 drv / CG4, 2 drv, wood legs, ScopeStuff saddle / CG3, 1 drv
SV AZ / 501HDV on Bogen 055XB / P+ on Oberwerk
QuikFinder, Telrad
Orion Dynamo Pro 12, Dew-Not
Have GLP and not afraid to use it!
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brmillsy
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Loc: Wheatfield, NY
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Hi Mike:
The one I use is a number 80A. I used it again last night at length and also used numbers 56 and 58A green filters for the first time. The green helped a lot and clearly improved contrast of the bands.
To me though I found the blue to be better and I think the image is a little brighter and the bands stand out even better than the green. Just my opinion though.
Regards.
Brian.
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Nexstar 8SE
Plossols: 4mm, 6mm, 9mm, 15mm, 25mm, 32mm
Naglers: 5mm, 7mm
Ethos: 13mm
UHC filter, Moon filter, Colored filters
Dewshield, Powertank, 2X Barlow,
F/6.3 focal reducer, JMI motorfocus
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