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Orion Adaptive Optics + new Camera
      #3420326 - 10/30/09 02:27 PM

Looks like I'm the first to post this. Orion just released their '1.2' in their product countdown. $1800 adaptive Optics guider. Very interesting, but what's even MORE interesting is the greyed out box that's attached to it when you zoom in. Orion Parsec 8300c Astronomical Imaging Camera. Looks like maybe they're coming out with a regulated CCD???

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Re: Orion Adaptive Optics + new Camera new [Re: John Wunderlin]
      #3420763 - 10/30/09 07:26 PM

I noticed that too. I'm more into the adaptive guider which functions like an image stabilizer to me. It's interesting to see if works as the promise.

Also, I bet the "#1" new product from Orion must be the new 8300C CCD camera.

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Re: Orion Adaptive Optics + new Camera new [Re: BWAZ]
      #3420896 - 10/30/09 08:50 PM

I'd pay the extra $96 and get the Starlight Xpress AO unit. They are also coming out with a new 8300 chipped camera.

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Re: Orion Adaptive Optics + new Camera new [Re: fetoma]
      #3421038 - 10/30/09 10:20 PM

WoW!

That's exciting news to hear about an Orion 8300 Camera!



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Re: Orion Adaptive Optics + new Camera new [Re: DugDog]
      #3421141 - 10/30/09 11:24 PM

I just saw the AO guider here at the AIC. Pretty neat looking unit. Didn't see a new camera, though. I'll ask them about it tomorrow.

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Re: Orion Adaptive Optics + new Camera new [Re: David Pavlich]
      #3421241 - 10/31/09 12:28 AM

Quote:

I just saw the AO guider here at the AIC. Pretty neat looking unit. Didn't see a new camera, though. I'll ask them about it tomorrow.

David



That would be great, get all the info you can, and report back!

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Re: Orion Adaptive Optics + new Camera new [Re: DugDog]
      #3421291 - 10/31/09 01:10 AM

For us "big chip" owners, almost nothing Orion makes is useful, except for the guiding unit (both my guidescope and guide ccd are from Orion). Everything AP related stops at the APS size

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Re: Orion Adaptive Optics + new Camera new [Re: RBA]
      #3421363 - 10/31/09 03:04 AM

The ad says that it adds in focus. Does the Starlight Express version also? It would be one thing in the Orions favor if the SE one doesn't.

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Re: Orion Adaptive Optics + new Camera new [Re: Jason Freeland]
      #3421858 - 10/31/09 01:09 PM

Quote:

The ad says that it adds in focus. Does the Starlight Express version also? It would be one thing in the Orions favor if the SE one doesn't.



the link at the top of this thread says it requires "only 90mm of inward focus travel", but "you can add up to 30mm worth of accessories, such as a filter wheel, to the SteadyStar without adding to the total backfocus"
the total in focus of the SX is 64 mm, so SX adds less without accessories, 4 mm more if you add 30 mm of accessories.
of course most of us are using these on catadioptrics with a moving mirror so it doesn't matter that much, unless you need to clear a fork mount.

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Re: Orion Adaptive Optics + new Camera new [Re: bill w]
      #3421976 - 10/31/09 02:07 PM

I hope the 'c' in 8300c stands for cooling and not color...

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Re: Orion Adaptive Optics + new Camera new [Re: John Wunderlin]
      #3422023 - 10/31/09 02:42 PM

I'll bet it's color with maybe a mono at a later date. Orion likes to keep it simple for beginners it seems.

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Re: Orion Adaptive Optics + new Camera new [Re: fetoma]
      #3422093 - 10/31/09 03:33 PM

I wonder what it will cost... im definitely interested

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Re: Orion Adaptive Optics + new Camera new [Re: SGT500]
      #3422112 - 10/31/09 03:53 PM

I saw the prototype this morning. About $2800 and it's coming in OSC and mono. It has controlled cooling which is new for Orion. It's a compact unit. It sorta' looks like a cross between a QHY8 and a QSI style camera. It was designed to be able to work with the Hyperstar. Pretty neat. Can't wait to read the first reviews! Again, I'll try to post some pictures when I get home.

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Re: Orion Adaptive Optics + new Camera new [Re: David Pavlich]
      #3422127 - 10/31/09 04:07 PM

Wow thats more expensive than i would have thought. especially when you can get a Qhy9 for 2500...

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Re: Orion Adaptive Optics + new Camera new [Re: SGT500]
      #3422325 - 10/31/09 06:11 PM

2 more announcements. Bisque is building a smaller version of the ME that will be rated at 90lbs. Pretty neat looking mount according to the drawings.

And now for those that have been looking for a nice 8300 chip based camera. SBIG announced a new/old 8300 for $1995. What? That's where the new/old comes in. SBIG is packaging it in the old ST402 body. This will be a big seller, I'm sure.

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Re: Orion Adaptive Optics + new Camera new [Re: David Pavlich]
      #3422358 - 10/31/09 06:34 PM

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And now for those that have been looking for a nice 8300 chip based camera. SBIG announced a new/old 8300 for $1995. What? That's where the new/old comes in. SBIG is packaging it in the old ST402 body. This will be a big seller, I'm sure.





I cant wait for this. if it comes out im definitely getting on the list

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Re: Orion Adaptive Optics + new Camera new [Re: David Pavlich]
      #3422398 - 10/31/09 06:55 PM

Hi Dave,

Bummer - Looks like I missed a couple of the announcements. Hopefully they'll still be there tomorrow morning.
That was a lot of fun and it was a pleasure meeting you.

Have a safe trip home.

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Re: Orion Adaptive Optics + new Camera new [Re: mnaf]
      #3422471 - 10/31/09 07:33 PM

I was looking at the Kodak spec sheet on the 8300CE and it looks like the Bayer filters are not IR blocking. I wonder if that has implications for ballancing the color if you're trying to push the red response. An IR blocking filter with a fairly sharp cutoff would be handy to avoid cross-talk between the colors in the near IR.

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Re: Orion Adaptive Optics + new Camera new [Re: SGT500]
      #3422538 - 10/31/09 08:06 PM

Quote:

Quote:


And now for those that have been looking for a nice 8300 chip based camera. SBIG announced a new/old 8300 for $1995. What? That's where the new/old comes in. SBIG is packaging it in the old ST402 body. This will be a big seller, I'm sure.





I cant wait for this. if it comes out im definitely getting on the list




It's not if, it's when. They are shooting for delivery some time in December.

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Re: Orion Adaptive Optics + new Camera new [Re: mnaf]
      #3422546 - 10/31/09 08:10 PM

Quote:

Hi Dave,

Bummer - Looks like I missed a couple of the announcements. Hopefully they'll still be there tomorrow morning.
That was a lot of fun and it was a pleasure meeting you.

Have a safe trip home.




Hey Mike...the founding sponsors gave a presentation and that's when the announcements came.

It was a pleasure meeting up. I'm already planning to come back next year. Hopefully, the travel won't be as convoluted as it was this year.

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