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waassaabee
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Old data, new process. M78 - Reflection Nebula new

#3419205 - 10/29/09 09:50 PM

During the moonful nights, what's a guy to do? I've picked up some new tips and tricks, and took my time. I'm sure with more time on this the dust could be brought out more (and in the full sized TIFF it is a bit deeper), so later on I'll add or reshoot this gem!

M78 Reflection Nebula in Orion
WO Megrez90 w/TV .8x FR/FF
modded 350D
CG5 guided w/miniBorg50/Q Guider/PHD
ISO1600/5 minutes/20 frames
Darks applied

Comments and suggestions appreciated!!

(Click image for larger version)

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Gary

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Footbag
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Re: Old data, new process. M78 - Reflection Nebula new

[Re: waassaabee]
#3419231 - 10/29/09 10:05 PM

Nice process! The hi-res is worth the click. The dusty region is very nice.

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Adam

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waassaabee
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Re: Old data, new process. M78 - Reflection Nebula new

[Re: Footbag]
#3419236 - 10/29/09 10:12 PM

Thanks Adam!! I'm pretty sure a couple of more hours would make the dust a lot easier to work, and I won't have to do as much noise reduction (detail loss).. Overall though, I'm pretty darn happy with the results.

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Gary

34N 120W

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Edited by waassaabee (10/29/09 11:40 PM)

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Re: Old data, new process. M78 - Reflection Nebula new

[Re: waassaabee]
#3419256 - 10/29/09 10:24 PM

I think you definitely succeeded in the reprocess , lots of detail and dusty bits.

Well done id say , I havent taken a good shot of this one yet so im hoping this season it will happen and it looks like I will need a lot of subs.

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waassaabee
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Re: Old data, new process. M78 - Reflection Nebula new

[Re: Nils_Lars]
#3419370 - 10/29/09 11:36 PM

Thanks Erik!! I don't know if longer subs would help, or if it's just total integration time that needs to be increased. But it's a very dim target. Even at ISO1600 5 minutes I couldn't see much neb in the raw frames.
And dark sky is a must I'm sure.

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Gary

34N 120W

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SGT500
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Re: Old data, new process. M78 - Reflection Nebula new

[Re: waassaabee]
#3419425 - 10/30/09 12:20 AM

Great shot Gary. This is a tough target for sure.
Im sure if you shot this with the RC you would get some great closeup detail in the nebula

. then you could blend it in with this image and make a high resolution M78 widefield.

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-Sal
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waassaabee
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Re: Old data, new process. M78 - Reflection Nebula new

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#3419704 - 10/30/09 07:57 AM

Thanks Sal! I am contemplating a run on this target with the RC, but blending in with this one? I'll have to wait and see what that entails as I've never combined two different focal lengths.

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Gary

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SGT500
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Re: Old data, new process. M78 - Reflection Nebula new

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#3419882 - 10/30/09 10:20 AM

I do it alot with new data from the RC. I am able to blend the two image scales together using photoshop transformations

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Re: Old data, new process. M78 - Reflection Nebula new

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#3419883 - 10/30/09 10:20 AM

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waassaabee
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Re: Old data, new process. M78 - Reflection Nebula new

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#3419966 - 10/30/09 11:08 AM

Quote:

I do it alot with new data from the RC. I am able to blend the two image scales together using photoshop transformations

Cool... Does that make you a Transformer?

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Gary

34N 120W

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SGT500
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Re: Old data, new process. M78 - Reflection Nebula new

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#3420050 - 10/30/09 11:50 AM

why yes that does. I am bumble bee

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Re: Old data, new process. M78 - Reflection Nebula new

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#3420132 - 10/30/09 12:38 PM

Bumble Bee makes tuna right?

Great image! Very ethereal and nicely processed.

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waassaabee
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Re: Old data, new process. M78 - Reflection Nebula new

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#3420150 - 10/30/09 12:49 PM

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Bumble Bee makes tuna right?

Thanks Mike, I'm not sure any of my images have ever been rated 'ethereal'.

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Gary

34N 120W

-My kingdom for blue squares!-

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AT8RC
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Re: Old data, new process. M78 - Reflection Nebula new

[Re: waassaabee]
#3420186 - 10/30/09 01:13 PM

Great image. Many think this is an easy target, however it is not. You did well!

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waassaabee
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Re: Old data, new process. M78 - Reflection Nebula [Re: templec]
#3421237 - 10/31/09 12:26 AM

templec, Many thanks!! The easiest part was the capture, after that it was a bit of a struggle. But the capture wasn't all that easy either as there is no real indication of nebulosity, so you're running on faith a lot...

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Gary

34N 120W

-My kingdom for blue squares!-

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