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125-PE new
      #3418924 - 10/29/09 07:10 PM

Recently purchased a 125-PE.
In scrolling through the handset, I noticed if I held the Mode key for 2 seconds or more, I get to screens dealing with the Finder, Lat, Long, etc.
One of them lists Time on the top line and LST on the bottom.
The top will display the correct time after I enter it when the scope is turned on.
The LST displays a different time in 24 hour format.
There appears to be no correlation between them, i.e.,
Time: 6:51:29
LST: 20:18:28

What is this "LST" ?
Local Standard Time ???
Are the times supposed to be different?
If so, why?
If not, how does one correct ?

Thanks

Tim Bambrick


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Re: 125-PE new [Re: VTB]
      #3419013 - 10/29/09 07:58 PM

Tim,

I believe that is "Local Sidereal Time"; that is, the current Right Ascension transiting your local meridian. By this definition, midnight LST is when the hour angle of the vernal equinox transits your local meridian.

Now you have me curious: where's my ETX hiding?

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Re: 125-PE new [Re: VTB]
      #3419019 - 10/29/09 08:00 PM

I take it to mean >>>> Local Sidereal Time...

Which runs 5 hours behind Universal time...here in Maryland.

But 20:18:28 corresponds to 8:18 PM which would be 9:18 PM with daylight savings time still in effect...I have no clue where you got 6:51:19

Bob G.

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Edited by Bob Griffiths (10/29/09 08:01 PM)


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Re: 125-PE new [Re: Bob Griffiths]
      #3419062 - 10/29/09 08:18 PM

Quote:

Local Sidereal Time...

Which runs 5 hours behind Universal time...here in Maryland.



Local solar time may be about 5 hours behind UT - though even that varies, the "equation of time" is a correction which can run to +/- 16 minutes depending on the season of the year, this is caused by the earth rotating at a constant rate but its orbital motion not being constant because of the eccentricity of the earth's orbit.

But sidereal time doesn't even run at the same rate as solar time. The earth rotates 366.25 times in a year with respect to the stars, 365.25 times with respect to the Sun (orbital motion again) therefor sidereal time runs faster than solar time by nearly 4 minutes per day.

Local sidereal time is simply the same as the right asension of an object on the meridian. e.g. if Betelgeuse is due south, then the local sidereal time is 5h 55m 43.1s


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Re: 125-PE new [Re: Bob Griffiths]
      #3419689 - 10/30/09 07:21 AM

In response to Bob G.'s comments re TIME:
When the Autostar controller is turned on, it prompts you to enter the date, time and whether it's Daylight Savings or not.
Last night I entered the time at 6:49pm or thereabouts.
After going to the screen in question, the top line was displaying the current time, i.e., 6:51:19 and was "ticking".
The bottom line LST displayed the 20:18:28 at the same moment and was also "ticking".

OK...to reaffirm my amateur status, for purposes of aligning, etc., the difference between TIME and LST is of no consequence and can be ignored. Yes ???

Tim Bambrick


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Re: 125-PE new [Re: VTB]
      #3419845 - 10/30/09 10:00 AM

Yes-- It has no bearing for normal GOTO operation.

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Re: 125-PE [Re: VTB]
      #3421589 - 10/31/09 10:04 AM

Quote:

Recently purchased a 125-PE.
In scrolling through the handset, I noticed if I held the Mode key for 2 seconds or more, I get to screens dealing with the Finder, Lat, Long, etc.
One of them lists Time on the top line and LST on the bottom.
The top will display the correct time after I enter it when the scope is turned on.
The LST displays a different time in 24 hour format.
There appears to be no correlation between them, i.e.,
Time: 6:51:29
LST: 20:18:28

What is this "LST" ?
Local Standard Time ???
Are the times supposed to be different?
If so, why?
If not, how does one correct ?

Thanks

Tim Bambrick




LST is a different animal... (Rod puts on college astronomy instructor's hat)...

LST is "Local Sidereal Time," and is equal to the Right Ascension of the line of Right Ascension currently on the meridian.

In simpler terms, if stars, planets, constellations, whatever with an RA of 21:30 are on your meridian (the imaginary line that runs from the North Celestial Pole, through the Zenith, down to the south horizon and back around) it is now 21:30 LST

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Re: 125-PE new [Re: rmollise]
      #3431390 - 11/05/09 03:47 PM

Yes to all of the above. If you do not have a manual with the scope, you can find it online. The "finder" section is important to you and you need to read the manual. It is a great scope if you learn how to use it and both Joe and Rod are experts on this. You may also want to familiarize yourself with Mike Weasner's Mighty ETX website.

John


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