Steve Fisher
"Curmudgeon in Training"
Reged: 08/12/06
Posts: 1728
Loc: Utah
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Seems to me there are three groups of people here reading this post.
1. People waiting for delivery of their new D&G lens or OTA.
2. People who are planning on or are about to order their D&G lens or OTA.
3. People who think people like me and others with Long Focus Refractors are nuts.
Which are you?
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Steve
8" f/12 D&G Achromat Refractor Delivered 08/27/09
6" D&G f/12 Achromat Refractor
66mm f/6.1 William Optics Petzval
6" f/8 Celestron Starhopper
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"Never try to teach a pig to sing, It wastes your time and it annoys the pig". (Robert Heinlein)
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zjc26138
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I am one of those who would like to order one, eventually. 
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Rat
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Loc: USA
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I'll buy a D&G when they come out with a truss tube version! Ha Ha!
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Doug Culbertson
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I read this because I thought that you were giving one away. 
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Doug
Midway, FL
NS11GPS/Feathertouch/Starizona Virtual View
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Some eyepieces and a barlow
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Steve Fisher
"Curmudgeon in Training"
Reged: 08/12/06
Posts: 1728
Loc: Utah
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Quote:
I'll buy a D&G when they come out with a truss tube version! Ha Ha!
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Steve
8" f/12 D&G Achromat Refractor Delivered 08/27/09
6" D&G f/12 Achromat Refractor
66mm f/6.1 William Optics Petzval
6" f/8 Celestron Starhopper
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"Never try to teach a pig to sing, It wastes your time and it annoys the pig". (Robert Heinlein)
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Steve Fisher
"Curmudgeon in Training"
Reged: 08/12/06
Posts: 1728
Loc: Utah
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Quote:
I read this because I thought that you were giving one away.
Gotcha! 
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Steve
8" f/12 D&G Achromat Refractor Delivered 08/27/09
6" D&G f/12 Achromat Refractor
66mm f/6.1 William Optics Petzval
6" f/8 Celestron Starhopper
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"Never try to teach a pig to sing, It wastes your time and it annoys the pig". (Robert Heinlein)
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Chris G
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Reged: 08/12/04
Posts: 4244
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I'm in the 4th group, would love to have one but it's just not in the cards.
Beautiful scope.
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"Ain't nothin' Human 'bout the Human Race"
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jrbarnett
Eyepiece Hooligan
Reged: 02/28/06
Posts: 4339
Loc: Petaluma, CA
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I'm in the "sort of wants a D&G" camp. I've had one, and liked it, but mine was the "cute" little 5" f/10 special run variety. Not really a "proper" D&G in my book. The thing that D&G uniquely offers are large aperture achromats.
One of my retirement scenarios is to pick up some ranch land in northern New Mexico or Arizona or southern Utah, and set up a permanent visual use observatory with a large aperture refractor. This would be a part-time haunt; perhaps three months a year, spread out over the year. Ideally I would like a 12" f/11 to f/12 apochromatic triplet. Probably Russian lensed. The problem there is expense. An 10-11" f/15 D&G would cost a tiny fraction of what a 12" apochromat would cost, and would have a similarly long tube (hence would fit in a similarly-sized dome). It would be easier to justify the D&G than a big apochromat given that I would only be using the scope a small portion of the year.
On the other hand, folks like you and the Zig-meister who travel with extremely long focus achromats are nuts, but in a good way. I don't have the self-discipline to endure the trials and tribulations of traveling with such instruments, but I do appreciate looking through them and admire the folks that do have the drive to make it possible for me to do so.
Regards,
Jim
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"I do not know what I may appear to the world; but to myself I seem to have been only like a boy playing on the seashore, and diverting myself in now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me."
- Sir Issac Newton
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skybsd
professor emeritus
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Posts: 586
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I read this because I thought that you were giving one away.
Me too!
What's the deal, Steve?
Regards,
skybsd
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Steve Fisher
"Curmudgeon in Training"
Reged: 08/12/06
Posts: 1728
Loc: Utah
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I'm in the 4th group, would love to have one but it's just not in the cards.
Beautiful scope.
Thanks!
I think that you want one indicates you are in the second group. Just maybe not contenplating it now.
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Steve
8" f/12 D&G Achromat Refractor Delivered 08/27/09
6" D&G f/12 Achromat Refractor
66mm f/6.1 William Optics Petzval
6" f/8 Celestron Starhopper
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"Never try to teach a pig to sing, It wastes your time and it annoys the pig". (Robert Heinlein)
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Steve Fisher
"Curmudgeon in Training"
Reged: 08/12/06
Posts: 1728
Loc: Utah
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I said nothing about giving one away.
If I had one for sale it would be in the Shop and Swap section.
I received my 8" on 9/27/09 I know of only one person on the waiting list. I'm wondering who else here might be on the list and who actually is considering it seriously.
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Steve
8" f/12 D&G Achromat Refractor Delivered 08/27/09
6" D&G f/12 Achromat Refractor
66mm f/6.1 William Optics Petzval
6" f/8 Celestron Starhopper
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"Never try to teach a pig to sing, It wastes your time and it annoys the pig". (Robert Heinlein)
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Steve Fisher
"Curmudgeon in Training"
Reged: 08/12/06
Posts: 1728
Loc: Utah
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Jim:
I'm with you except that I am looking further South.
I have spent most of the summer this year looking at land from San Antonio to Tucson, from the border to Flagstaff.
I have not found the right property yet but I'm looking. If snow is a regular occouring event count me out!
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Steve
8" f/12 D&G Achromat Refractor Delivered 08/27/09
6" D&G f/12 Achromat Refractor
66mm f/6.1 William Optics Petzval
6" f/8 Celestron Starhopper
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"Never try to teach a pig to sing, It wastes your time and it annoys the pig". (Robert Heinlein)
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carlcat
sage
Reged: 11/26/07
Posts: 256
Loc: Northern California
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If one lives in a dark site and has a observatory I can see the rationale for such a long focus telescope but for someone who has to drive a long distance and then spend so much time and effort to set up seems a bit cuckoo to me, especially when there are other alternatives.
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revans
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 09/26/05
Posts: 1513
Loc: Fitchburg, MA
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I'd love to have one, but there is no practical way for me to mount it and I think it would benefit from a permanent installation. So, as much as I think they are great instruments I suppose I'll never have one.
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Rick Evans
http://www.freewebs.com/revans_01420/
"The universe is there for us to see, but it cannot be understood without learning its language -- mathematics." Galileo Galilei
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starrancher
professor emeritus
Reged: 06/09/09
Posts: 574
Loc: Northern Arizona
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The long focus refractor is the ticket !
For you guys looking for property in Az. ...Much is available with nice Bortle 9 & 10 skies overhead . 40acre parcels at 49k etc . I'm on the mailing list & get ads all the time . Feel free to P.M.
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LXD75 SN8
Series 4000 Plossls
Misc. other stuff
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mikey cee
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Posts: 3507
Loc: bellevue ne.
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Not Me!! I'm all set and settled in here on the fruited plains. All I can say is to those who don't want one is they're nuts. You figure out what type.  Mike
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Ziggy943
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 08/11/06
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Loc: Utah
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Not me, got one.
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May your skies always be clear,
Ziggy
www.slas.us
4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone
Edited by Ziggy943 (10/31/09 07:36 PM)
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KerryR
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 12/05/07
Posts: 1138
Loc: SW Michigan
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I'll get one some day. I'll put it on a home made large alt-az mount-- like the one on the back of "Star Testing Astronomical Telescopes (first edition)"-- assuming I can figure out a way to get it in to (or on to) a car... 'til then I'll have to be happy with my stable of shorter refractors.
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Kerry
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GShaffer
professor emeritus
Reged: 02/28/09
Posts: 641
Loc: Augusta GA
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Have an 8" achro but its only an f/9......and I love it but there is definately a D&G 8" f/15 maybe even f/18 in my future.
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Meade 6" AR6 f/8.0 Achro
Celestron C11, Intes MK67
Vixen ED102SS, FL102S, ED102S, NA140SS, R200SS, WO Megarez 80 w/TMB Fluorite Optics
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Augusta GA
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Jeff Morgan
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Reged: 09/28/03
Posts: 1985
Loc: Prescott, AZ
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Quote:
I said nothing about giving one away.
If I had one for sale it would be in the Shop and Swap section.
I received my 8" on 9/27/09 I know of only one person on the waiting list. I'm wondering who else here might be on the list and who actually is considering it seriously.
Perhaps I am that person. Based on my last communication with Barry, I really am in "any day now" territory on my 8" f/12. However, I am having serious buyers remorse. I should have ordered the 10". Probably a little late in the game to supersize.
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Jeff Morgan
Prescott, AZ
Wile E. Coyote School of Telescope Making
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