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Doc Bob
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Question concerning AstroTelescopes 102mm f/11 Ref
      #3424115 - 11/01/09 04:57 PM

Hi Everyone,
I'm new to refractors; been an SC type for several years and would like to expand my astronomy experience - I currently have an 80mm f/6.5 achro refractor as my grab-&-go telescope. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with the AstroTelescopes 102mm f/11 telescope. I would like a nice planetary/lunar telescope that would be also good for bright objects and double stars. I would appreciate any comments pro and con to help me decide wether or not to purchase one of these instruments.

Thanks,
Bob

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a really inexpensive 4mm 1.25"
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Re: Question concerning AstroTelescopes 102mm f/11 Ref new [Re: Doc Bob]
      #3424166 - 11/01/09 05:25 PM

PM o1d_dude (Kit) and ask him about his Stellarvue-branded version of this scope. Though there's no guarantee that the Astrotelescopes-branded version will have had quite as much TLC as the Stellarvue-branded version, the optics should be the same. The Stellarvue flavor was really quite good. Kit brought it to one of our local O.F.L.I. star parties a couple of months ago. I only had a couple of peeks through it, so I would encourage you to see what he has to say. It's a very pretty scope, by the way.

Regards,

Jim

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Re: Question concerning AstroTelescopes 102mm f/11 Ref new [Re: jrbarnett]
      #3424474 - 11/01/09 08:34 PM

PM received and response sent.

That Pentax XW 7mm EP will become a favorite with the f/11. Trust me on that one.

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Re: Question concerning AstroTelescopes 102mm f/11 new [Re: o1d_dude]
      #3424521 - 11/01/09 09:11 PM

Hi Bob:

I have one and love it! You can't beat the price-performance ratio (great deal!) Nice smooth dual speed focuser, well placed baffles (forgot how many), fully colimatable cell (side adjust - not push-pull), and good all around build quality and quality optics and coatings. Some color on the brightest objects but not at all objectionable. (Forget about anything better for less than 3 times the price - doesn't exist that I've encountered.)

As for AstroTelescopes version vs Stellarvue - AstroTelescopes (OEM'd by Kunming / United Optical) is the only supplier - not Stellarvue. Vic was kind enough to check out the quality of a couple of these scopes for the lady that owns or runs AT, but thats is - Stellarvue is NOT reselling UO tubes.

You can't go wrong with one of these scopes. I got mine at NEAF back in April (?) from Gary at handsonoptics.com. I was also just at their annual EastCoast Astro gathering this past Saturday and I know they had at least one on the shelf (if you're looking for a source.) You won't be disappointed ;-) Cheers...

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Re: Question concerning AstroTelescopes 102mm f/11 Ref new [Re: Doc Bob]
      #3427163 - 11/03/09 10:49 AM

Here's a shot of the quarter Moon taken with a 102mm f/11 achro.

http://clanicd.com/SV102F11/20090926_lg.jpg

It's sharp and shows very little c.a. (as you'd expect from a 4" f/11 achro).

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Re: Question concerning AstroTelescopes 102mm f/11 Ref new [Re: Clive Gibbons]
      #3427785 - 11/03/09 04:13 PM

Hummm, nice picture but my Celestron 102 f/9.8 seems to show less color and has a sharper image when it comes to Luna. Of course this is just what I see with my eye not the camera.

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Patrick

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Re: Question concerning AstroTelescopes 102mm f/11 Ref new [Re: Patricko]
      #3427809 - 11/03/09 04:25 PM

You would need a side by side.

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Re: Question concerning AstroTelescopes 102mm f/11 Ref new [Re: Scott Beith]
      #3427816 - 11/03/09 04:29 PM

Yeah I agree... anyone have some shots handy?

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Re: Question concerning AstroTelescopes 102mm f/11 Ref new [Re: Patricko]
      #3427985 - 11/03/09 06:20 PM

Patricko:

I too had a Celestron C102 (by Vixen), and agree that it was better than expected on the color correction front than any f/9.8 achromat had a right to be.

Mine had less false color than my f/10 5" D&G, as you would expect, but surprisingly not much more false color than my f/14.4 Anaters "Vixen Spec" achromat.

I only had a couple of peeks through Kits Stellarvue 4" f/11.4 using moderate magnifications, and liked what I saw, but not enough to form an opinion regarding color correction versus expectations or other scopes.

Regards,

Jim

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Re: Question concerning AstroTelescopes 102mm f/11 Ref new [Re: Clive Gibbons]
      #3428158 - 11/03/09 08:12 PM

Mighty little CA for a photo through an Achro. Looks like a really fine scope to me. Bet you hardly even see any CA using it visually.

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Re: Question concerning AstroTelescopes 102mm f/11 Ref new [Re: Patricko]
      #3428816 - 11/04/09 08:52 AM

Quote:

Yeah I agree... anyone have some shots handy?




Sorry I meant side by side visually.

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Re: Question concerning AstroTelescopes 102mm f/11 Ref new [Re: jrbarnett]
      #3428991 - 11/04/09 11:06 AM

Quote:

Patricko:

I too had a Celestron C102 (by Vixen), and agree that it was better than expected on the color correction front than any f/9.8 achromat had a right to be.

Mine had less false color than my f/10 5" D&G, as you would expect, but surprisingly not much more false color than my f/14.4 Anaters "Vixen Spec" achromat.

I only had a couple of peeks through Kits Stellarvue 4" f/11.4 using moderate magnifications, and liked what I saw, but not enough to form an opinion regarding color correction versus expectations or other scopes.

Regards,

Jim




Hi Jim,

I find your comparison of the f/9.8 to f/14.4 very interesting. I've always wanted to try one of those long throw 4" achros but from what you experienced between the two scopes I'd say that sticking with my current f/9.8 would be the best thing for me. I still think a shootout between f/~11 and f/~10 4"ers would be fun.

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Re: Question concerning AstroTelescopes 102mm f/11 Ref new [Re: Patricko]
      #3429806 - 11/04/09 07:58 PM

I know that visually, this scope really rocks! I saw a very tiny bit of CA on Jupiter, but it did not effect the color of it nor the sharpness. It was the best Achro I had ever looked through. This is compared to any Synta scope I have ever looked through. Also, the build is exceptional.

If it wasn't for the fact that I already have a C11 and a ES 152mm for deep sky, I would have kept it. Plus I am mostly metal detecting for coins now on and off.

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