pstarr
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 09/17/04
Posts: 1280
Loc: NE Ohio
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web page This is a work in progress so all the links on the site don't work yet but will in coming weeks.
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Paul
10" Home built F-6 Eq Newt. w/Zambuto mirror, built for lunar and planetary viewing.
12'x12' roll-off roof observatory
6" Home built f-6 Newt. w/Dick Wessling mirror on CG-5 Eq. mount, built for high resolution work.
4.5" Orion Starblast on Eq. mount
TV Radians 4,5,6,8,10,12,
Pentax XL 10.5mm
Pentax XW 14mm
Baader Hyperion 17mm
4&5mm UO Abbe Orthos.
3.2mm TMB planetary
TV 2.5x barlow, TV 1.8x barlow
My equipment philosophy... If it ain't broke, fix it anyway.
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dave b
Post Laureate
Reged: 05/10/05
Posts: 3548
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sweet, 12+ years latter zambuto gets a web site.
i bet he gets a DVD player next or maybe a cell phone.
j/k
congrats carl, keep up the good work!
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dave bonandrini
30" f/5.2 Dobsonian
President of GCAC
Astromart Moderator
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pstarr
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 09/17/04
Posts: 1280
Loc: NE Ohio
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sweet, 12+ years latter zambuto gets a web site.
i bet he gets a DVD player next or maybe a cell phone.
j/k
congrats carl, keep up the good work!
 
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Paul
10" Home built F-6 Eq Newt. w/Zambuto mirror, built for lunar and planetary viewing.
12'x12' roll-off roof observatory
6" Home built f-6 Newt. w/Dick Wessling mirror on CG-5 Eq. mount, built for high resolution work.
4.5" Orion Starblast on Eq. mount
TV Radians 4,5,6,8,10,12,
Pentax XL 10.5mm
Pentax XW 14mm
Baader Hyperion 17mm
4&5mm UO Abbe Orthos.
3.2mm TMB planetary
TV 2.5x barlow, TV 1.8x barlow
My equipment philosophy... If it ain't broke, fix it anyway.
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matthew2000tx
sage
Reged: 12/14/06
Posts: 329
Loc: San Antonio, TX
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nice looking website
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<>< Matthew R.
My Astronomy Blog
*16" Meade Lightbridge
*10.1" f/4.5 Coulter Odyessy Dobsonian
*4.5" F/8 Dob. Built by Yours Truly
*3" Celestron First Scope Dob. IYA2009 edition.
*90mm Meade DSX Mak-Cass Go-To
*60mm Meade Refractor on Sears Discoverer EQ Mount
*60mm Tasco Refractor on Tasco EQ Mount
*12x50 Bushnell Binos
*10x50 Celestron Close-Up Binos x2
*20x80 Celestron Binos
*Canon 20D/40d/50d and bunch of L lenses
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lymorkiew45
professor emeritus
Reged: 12/30/07
Posts: 737
Loc: In the dark, and way out there...
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Just look at those mirror prices, they are way to higggggggggggggggggggggh, but a cool website nonetheless...clear skies... 
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Jorgen
Starfinder 16 dob: Zambuto Optics! 
DS-10
Orion XT12i: The optics are special! 
Z12
All the Lanthanum superwides!
Orion ultrablock filter
9mm Nagler type 6
15mm, 25mm, 35mm Ultrascopics
Orion Shorty Plus barlow
Orion Lazer Collimator
40" Webster: Under Construction 
http://cleardarksky.com/c/SanJoseCAkey.html?1
20 years in Southern Dragon Kung Fu, or dragon style embellished in magical arms.
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Jason D
Post Laureate
Reged: 10/21/06
Posts: 3311
Loc: California
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Just look at those mirror prices, they are way to higggggggggggggggggggggh,
Are you suggesting that you paid much less for your Zambuto 16" mirror (the one you have listed in your signature)?
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XT10 classic with premium optics
Tri-knob CR2 with compression rings
Round Table Platform
4.5" StarBlast
6" StarBlast6
TV EPs
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pstarr
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 09/17/04
Posts: 1280
Loc: NE Ohio
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I paid $1000.00 for my 10" f-6 direct from Carl in 2005, $300 less then current price. I think the rise in glass prices have added some cost to his operation.
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Paul
10" Home built F-6 Eq Newt. w/Zambuto mirror, built for lunar and planetary viewing.
12'x12' roll-off roof observatory
6" Home built f-6 Newt. w/Dick Wessling mirror on CG-5 Eq. mount, built for high resolution work.
4.5" Orion Starblast on Eq. mount
TV Radians 4,5,6,8,10,12,
Pentax XL 10.5mm
Pentax XW 14mm
Baader Hyperion 17mm
4&5mm UO Abbe Orthos.
3.2mm TMB planetary
TV 2.5x barlow, TV 1.8x barlow
My equipment philosophy... If it ain't broke, fix it anyway.
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Lane
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 11/19/07
Posts: 1515
Loc: Frisco, Texas
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After looking at those mirror prices I can see why the Starmaster and Webster scope prices are so high. In fact when I take away the price of the mirror I don't believe I could possibly build any of those scopes as cheaply as they are able to build them. Just pricing the remainder of the materials almost matches their fully constructed price. Now I am trying to figure how they even make a profit unless they are able to buy these Mirrors at a cut rate price.
I also notice Zambuto has no secondaries on the site, they don't make their own secondaries?
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Mounts: CGEM, ORION SIRIUS, AT Voyager/motorized
SCTs: C6, C8, C9.25, C11,
Refractors: TV Pronto, Orion ED80
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dave b
Post Laureate
Reged: 05/10/05
Posts: 3548
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webster has admitted in the past that if they did not already own a shop full of CNC equipment, they would not be able to make a penny in the scope biz.
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dave bonandrini
30" f/5.2 Dobsonian
President of GCAC
Astromart Moderator
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pstarr
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 09/17/04
Posts: 1280
Loc: NE Ohio
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I also notice Zambuto has no secondaries on the site, they don't make their own secondaries?
If I remember correctly, Z does have the means for testing secondaries so offering them may be down the road. Antares and Protostar are very reliable for quality. I've never got a bad piece from either. Z does recommend Protostar on his mirror groups web site.
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Paul
10" Home built F-6 Eq Newt. w/Zambuto mirror, built for lunar and planetary viewing.
12'x12' roll-off roof observatory
6" Home built f-6 Newt. w/Dick Wessling mirror on CG-5 Eq. mount, built for high resolution work.
4.5" Orion Starblast on Eq. mount
TV Radians 4,5,6,8,10,12,
Pentax XL 10.5mm
Pentax XW 14mm
Baader Hyperion 17mm
4&5mm UO Abbe Orthos.
3.2mm TMB planetary
TV 2.5x barlow, TV 1.8x barlow
My equipment philosophy... If it ain't broke, fix it anyway.
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sevenhelmet
member
Reged: 06/15/09
Posts: 42
Loc: Virginia Beach, VA
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$1300 does seem high for a 10" f/5 mirror, especially considering one can be had from R. F. Royce or OWL for $400-500 less. Carl also states on the site that he is still using Pyrex. What am I missing here?
Edited by sevenhelmet (11/02/09 03:21 PM)
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tatarjj
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Reged: 04/20/04
Posts: 1134
Loc: Austin, TX
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Carl also states on the site that he is still using Pyrex. What am I missing here?
He obviously stocked up.
I must say though, only $8700 for a 24" isn't bad at all. I'm surprised, I thought it would be alot higher than that.
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John T.
Austin, TX
25" f/4.2 Dob
18" Obsession #701
4" Stellar Vue Achromat
8X56 Binos
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lymorkiew45
professor emeritus
Reged: 12/30/07
Posts: 737
Loc: In the dark, and way out there...
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Then buy one...clear skies... 
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Jorgen
Starfinder 16 dob: Zambuto Optics!
DS-10
Orion XT12i: The optics are special!
Z12
All the Lanthanum superwides!
Orion ultrablock filter
9mm Nagler type 6
15mm, 25mm, 35mm Ultrascopics
Orion Shorty Plus barlow
Orion Lazer Collimator
40" Webster: Under Construction
http://cleardarksky.com/c/SanJoseCAkey.html?1
20 years in Southern Dragon Kung Fu, or dragon style embellished in magical arms.
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tatarjj
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 04/20/04
Posts: 1134
Loc: Austin, TX
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Then buy one...clear skies...
Why would I? His biggest is that small 24" mirror size and it only gets ittier and bittier after that 
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John T.
Austin, TX
25" f/4.2 Dob
18" Obsession #701
4" Stellar Vue Achromat
8X56 Binos
Edited by tatarjj (11/02/09 10:47 PM)
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llanitedave
Humble Megalomaniac
Reged: 09/26/05
Posts: 12943
Loc: Amargosa Valley, NV, USA
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I do like that "Eye in the Galactic Core" image on the front page. Wish I'd have thought of it first to go with "Sauron's Other Eye".
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"Since the process of science generates more mysteries than it solves, I predict that we'll never learn everything: and we'll continue to generate new ignorance at the speed of knowledge."
"S.O.E." (Sauron's Other Eye), with 16" Royce conical mirror: A permanent work in progress.
10" Homebuilt dob, old Coulter mirror
Under Construction: The "Eye of Sauron" Observatory!
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llanitedave
Humble Megalomaniac
Reged: 09/26/05
Posts: 12943
Loc: Amargosa Valley, NV, USA
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$1300 does seem high for a 10" f/5 mirror, especially considering one can be had from R. F. Royce or OWL for $400-500 less. Carl also states on the site that he is still using Pyrex. What am I missing here?
Comparing the Royce and Zambuto price lists, they aren't really that far apart overall. I paid a little more for my 16" Royce conical mirror than Carl charges for his 16".
Too high, some say? I've yet to hear of anyone with buyers remorse over either a Zambuto or Royce mirror. Maybe they're out there, but they aren't whining to me.
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"Since the process of science generates more mysteries than it solves, I predict that we'll never learn everything: and we'll continue to generate new ignorance at the speed of knowledge."
"S.O.E." (Sauron's Other Eye), with 16" Royce conical mirror: A permanent work in progress.
10" Homebuilt dob, old Coulter mirror
Under Construction: The "Eye of Sauron" Observatory!
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sevenhelmet
member
Reged: 06/15/09
Posts: 42
Loc: Virginia Beach, VA
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Nope, and I'm not whining either- I bought a mirror from Royce. However, for the 10" size, Carl's prices seem unusually high.
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10" f/5 Reflector
Some decent EPs
An inquisitive mind
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pstarr
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 09/17/04
Posts: 1280
Loc: NE Ohio
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Nope, and I'm not whining either- I bought a mirror from Royce. However, for the 10" size, Carl's prices seem unusually high.
If you consider the people that are a the top of their craft, Astrophysics and Zambuto certainty come to mind. People wouldn't be buying either if they all thought the prices were to high. yet both have waiting lists. There will always be people who want the best and are willing to pay for it. Now is this for everyone, certainly not. these two companies are certainly out of reach for the masses. Premium optics are not really needed to enjoy the hobby and the seeing in most areas negate their advantage on many nights. I'm glad my main scope has a Zambuto mirror but in this economy, I would probably go with Royce or Dick Wessling if I were building a scope now.
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Paul
10" Home built F-6 Eq Newt. w/Zambuto mirror, built for lunar and planetary viewing.
12'x12' roll-off roof observatory
6" Home built f-6 Newt. w/Dick Wessling mirror on CG-5 Eq. mount, built for high resolution work.
4.5" Orion Starblast on Eq. mount
TV Radians 4,5,6,8,10,12,
Pentax XL 10.5mm
Pentax XW 14mm
Baader Hyperion 17mm
4&5mm UO Abbe Orthos.
3.2mm TMB planetary
TV 2.5x barlow, TV 1.8x barlow
My equipment philosophy... If it ain't broke, fix it anyway.
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sixela
Postmaster
Reged: 12/23/04
Posts: 10874
Loc: Boechout, Belgium
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they are way to higggggggggggggggggggggh,
lymorkview45 entering a thread about premium equipment just to state it's too expensive? I'm "genuinely" surprised.
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400mm f/4.46 self made Dobsonian on Tom Osypowski equatorial platform
Orion Starblast (114mm f/4 reflector, Alt/Az)
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Jason D
Post Laureate
Reged: 10/21/06
Posts: 3311
Loc: California
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they are way to higggggggggggggggggggggh,
lymorkview45 entering a thread about premium equipment just to state it's too expensive? I'm "genuinely" surprised.
Especially when he has these two lines in his signature
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Starfinder 16 dob: Zambuto Optics!
40" Webster: Under Construction
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XT10 classic with premium optics
Tri-knob CR2 with compression rings
Round Table Platform
4.5" StarBlast
6" StarBlast6
TV EPs
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