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nickatnight
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M31 Andromeda with EON 72mm
      #3426690 - 11/03/09 12:52 AM Attachment (100 downloads)

Hi Folks, I shot this about 10 days ago, and have pretty good detail, but I've been struggling getting the color to look natural. This is 1 hr and 50 min of 5 minute exposures with the modded Canon XTi @ iso800 through the EON 72mm @ f4.8 with IDAS LP2 filter, piggybacked on the CPC925 on a Mitty wedge, guided with SSAG through the CPC. I also added 15 minutes of 60 sec subs to get a little deeper into the core.

Here's a link to the not so big version:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2568/4070678303_12955df214_o.jpg

and a small one for here:

Thanks for looking...


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Re: M31 Andromeda with EON 72mm new [Re: nickatnight]
      #3426731 - 11/03/09 01:32 AM

Really good details and well processed right down to the core , a solid M31 Nick.

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Re: M31 Andromeda with EON 72mm new [Re: Nils_Lars]
      #3426733 - 11/03/09 01:36 AM

That is a wonderful M31. Way to go

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Re: M31 Andromeda with EON 72mm new [Re: Rankinstudio]
      #3427166 - 11/03/09 10:51 AM

Hey Nick,
Thats a really Great shot. you really went deep into this one

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Re: M31 Andromeda with EON 72mm new [Re: SGT500]
      #3427229 - 11/03/09 11:26 AM

Nick,
This image is my ultimate goal!
What an absolute beauty!


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Re: M31 Andromeda with EON 72mm new [Re: Kurly]
      #3427250 - 11/03/09 11:37 AM

Wow! Awesome and sharp details in M31 with pinpoint stars!

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Re: M31 Andromeda with EON 72mm new [Re: Illinois]
      #3427257 - 11/03/09 11:41 AM

Nick, what are you concerned with here - your shot looks great!

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Re: M31 Andromeda with EON 72mm new [Re: wrather1]
      #3427282 - 11/03/09 11:53 AM

I really like how you didn't stretch and over saturate the reds and blues. It gives it a much more natural look. Again, good job

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Re: M31 Andromeda with EON 72mm new [Re: Rankinstudio]
      #3427297 - 11/03/09 12:02 PM

Excellent shot! Wish mine were as good.

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Re: M31 Andromeda with EON 72mm new [Re: Rankinstudio]
      #3427314 - 11/03/09 12:18 PM

Quote:

I really like how you didn't stretch and over saturate the reds and blues. It gives it a much more natural look. Again, good job




Sorry but I have to disagree with you here David. The problem is the opposite: too much stretching of the colors, red especially, is giving the galaxy a purple hue. It's otherwise a very nice shot. I did a small color balance tweak here because I don't have PS on this computer, but I think it's in the right direction:




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Re: M31 Andromeda with EON 72mm new [Re: Agnotio]
      #3427321 - 11/03/09 12:21 PM

I think its great - makes me want to get the EON for my piggyback scope!

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Re: M31 Andromeda with EON 72mm new [Re: antimorris]
      #3427323 - 11/03/09 12:23 PM

Could you post the unprocessed stack somewhere so I can work on my processing? I havent been able to do M31 myself yet since I dont have a piggyback yet and my CPC800 is too small a FOV to get all of Andromeda - I would love to practice on yours until I get my own. Thanks!

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Re: M31 Andromeda with EON 72mm new [Re: Agnotio]
      #3427349 - 11/03/09 12:36 PM

Quote:

Sorry but I have to disagree with you here David. The problem is the opposite: too much stretching of the colors, red especially, is giving the galaxy a purple hue. It's otherwise a very nice shot. I did a small color balance tweak here because I don't have PS on this computer, but I think it's in the right direction:







I thought the pinkish tinge was a reminder about Breast Cancer Awareness Month...

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Re: M31 Andromeda with EON 72mm new [Re: waassaabee]
      #3428019 - 11/03/09 06:38 PM

Thank you very much everyone! I'm happy to have a good galaxy to add to my collection. I still feel I'm much better with nebulous things, and have a ways to go with galaxy processing. But M31 is big and kind and fun to shoot and processes.

I totally agree I have to get rid of the pinky, purple hue. I do think Agnotios tweaks helped that out, thanks Agnotio. It was actually worse when I first posted, and Gary was kind enough to send me a "secret message" that it was too pink. I'm all for promoting Breast Cancer Awareness, but the pink is honestly not for the cause I'm sorry to say. (Thanks for the cover story gary) I tweaked it a bit, but it does need more. I'll give it some tweaks tonight when I have a better monitor to work from.

Anna - I think for the price the EON 72mm is a great scope, super compact, but it needs a focal reducer/field flattener, so include that in any decision. I bought a used WO Type-2 .80, which works very nicely. I'll see what I can do about posting a link to the stack. I need to sign up with mediafire or the likes.

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Re: M31 Andromeda with EON 72mm new [Re: waassaabee]
      #3428034 - 11/03/09 06:46 PM

Excellent M31 Nick. Lots of detail. As for the color, it's all a matter of taste but if you're going for the natural look then I think it's a little on the pinkish side. That's just me though. You can always go with Gary's thought.

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Re: M31 Andromeda with EON 72mm new [Re: Agnotio]
      #3428293 - 11/03/09 09:43 PM

Nick,
Looking good!

Agnotio,
Good call

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Re: M31 Andromeda with EON 72mm new [Re: Agnotio]
      #3428522 - 11/04/09 12:27 AM

Quote:

Quote:

I really like how you didn't stretch and over saturate the reds and blues. It gives it a much more natural look. Again, good job




Sorry but I have to disagree with you here David. The problem is the opposite: too much stretching of the colors, red especially, is giving the galaxy a purple hue. It's otherwise a very nice shot. I did a small color balance tweak here because I don't have PS on this computer, but I think it's in the right direction:







If it was over stretched in red it was very slight, really a matter of preference. I have seen many many m31 shots that looked way to blue red. I think he did a great job on keeping the color tame. Just my opinion.

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Re: M31 Andromeda with EON 72mm [Re: Rankinstudio]
      #3428631 - 11/04/09 03:37 AM

Great image Nick!

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Re: M31 Andromeda with EON 72mm [Re: scopemankit]
      #3428719 - 11/04/09 06:20 AM

Thanks David and Chris.

OK, I got a MediaFire link set up to the stack. Be warned of the heavy sky gradient. I usually fix that early on with Gradient Exterminator or DBE (dynamic background extraction)in PixInsight.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/yhjzjbjwlmm/m31_1h50m_5mx_iso800_eon_dss.TIF

Good luck...

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Re: M31 Andromeda with EON 72mm [Re: nickatnight]
      #3430370 - 11/05/09 02:34 AM

Hey fellow santa clarita "up all night" resident.
What do you use to process your images??
Awesome work btw


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