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Jeronimo Cruz
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Why don't binos have a IPD lock?
      #3427129 - 11/03/09 10:30 AM

Hi all,

Last night I was enjoying the night sky through binoculars. I was using my Pentax. It has a nice focus lock. It made me wonder...

...Why don't binoculars have a similar interpupilary distance lock? It would be great for my 50mm porros that I like to keep in a backpack. Whenever I reach for them, I always have to adjust the IPD. It would be nice to have a lock of some sort.

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Re: Why don't binos have a IPD lock? new [Re: Jeronimo Cruz]
      #3427153 - 11/03/09 10:45 AM

IMO, it would add unnecessary cost. In 10 yeras, out of over 70 binoculars I've used, I can remember ONE, maybe two, that would not hold the IPD setting.

edz

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Erik D
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Re: Why don't binos have a IPD lock? new [Re: EdZ]
      #3427232 - 11/03/09 11:28 AM

I am with Ed.

I usually have about a dozen binoculars out of the case around the house. 1/2 dozen by my 2nd floor bay window where I do lots of bird watching & winter star gaziing. A pair by the large window of the exercise room. A pair or two by the kitchen window. They are all set for my exact IPD of ~65 mm. Also store my less used 6x30, 7X50, 10X40(roof), 12X60, 20X80 and 25X100 in the case set for my IPD. Sometimes a pair could sit around for over a year. When I take them out of the case the IPD remains the same. Sometimes I leave my binos in the car for weeks during the summer. Don't recall them losing IPD setting either.

My current stable of 2 dozen+ binoculars include roof prisms, porro prisms, compact reverse porros. Single hinged roof prism subcompacts. Don't have a problem with drifting IPD settings with any of them. Sometime I do Very minor adjustment to get the IPD and eye relief just right. But that takes only a second or two. I spend more time fine tuning the focus than that.


The only IPD issue I have is with of the double-hinged subcompacts roof prisms. They usually require more care to set the IPD exactly to my liking. Then I have to fold them to store. The next time I take them out I have to start over. That's the main reason I go out of my way to search for single hinged subcompact binoculars for air travel.

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Re: Why don't binos have a IPD lock? new [Re: Erik D]
      #3427501 - 11/03/09 01:50 PM

I am with Jeronimo on this one, and have wondered exactly the same. Any hinge not so stiff as to be difficult to operate, would benefit from a lock.

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Re: Why don't binos have a IPD lock? new [Re: Mark9473]
      #3428123 - 11/03/09 07:50 PM

Vintage binoculars will sometimes have IPD locks or thumbwheels. Perhaps they weren't designed to have sufficient friction to hold the IPD adjustment and relied on tightening a thumbwheel to maintain an IPD setting.

Can't think of a modern binocular with one at the moment. A couple of mine could use one though.

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Re: Why don't binos have a IPD lock? new [Re: pcad]
      #3428599 - 11/04/09 02:24 AM

Hi all,

An IPD lock would certainly add to the cost. However, I feel that most mfgs. don't offer this as, again, probably most binoculars would be used by more than one individual. This could create a confussion issue, to say the least.

I think that this is not a design implementation for most modern bincoulars. Nice idea though. Just my take on it.

Best regards,
Dave.


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Re: Why don't binos have a IPD lock? new [Re: DJB]
      #3428857 - 11/04/09 09:28 AM

IPD locks . . .

They do; It's called hingepin grease.

In some binos like my 8x32 SEs its pleanty tight.

Cheers,

Bill

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Re: Why don't binos have a IPD lock? new [Re: BillC]
      #3428888 - 11/04/09 09:52 AM

It's not unheard of, like feature #3 on this Loop-holed:
http://www.ambientsw.com/gs46481.html
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Re: Why don't binos have a IPD lock? new [Re: ronharper]
      #3428961 - 11/04/09 10:45 AM

unnecessary on any bino worthy of the name

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Re: Why don't binos have a IPD lock? new [Re: RichD]
      #3429051 - 11/04/09 11:34 AM

The Leupold Gold Ring series is their premium line. Supposed to be a cut above the Green Ring Olympic roof( 12X50) I own. I noticed they said this in the product description:
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"Interpupillary Distance Lock (IPD) — lock in the distance between your eyes, so no adjustments are necessary during use. You can easily use your binoculars one-handed."

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I do use my my 8X32 and 10X42 roof prisms one-handed from time to time. Never felt I needed an IPD lock. In fact, I expect my 20X80s and 25X100s to maintain correct IPD without a lock. The Leupold Gold rings are heavy a pair of 8X42s weigh over 33 oz. My 12X50 Olympic weighs 25.7 oz. I wonder how much HD glass and IPD lock contributes to the additional weight.

I travel with my Leupold Olympic 12X50s quite a bit. I have them in a sling pack or shoulder bag all day when I am touring overseas. Take them out when I want to observe distant vista every now and then. They may go in and out of the pack up to a dozen times a day and still maintain IPD.


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Re: Why don't binos have a IPD lock? new [Re: Erik D]
      #3431415 - 11/05/09 03:57 PM

I like both focus locks and IPD locks, I haven't yet found a binoculars that offers both.

One decent binocular that I own that does feature a IPD lock is the Zen Ray Summit 10x42..

Ken

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Zen Ray Summit 10x42
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Celestron 10x42 Regal
Celestron 10x50 Noble
Pentax 12x50 PCF WP II
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Re: Why don't binos have a IPD lock? new [Re: 94bamf]
      #3432487 - 11/06/09 08:54 AM

Some of the early service binoculars have an ipd indent to aid in quick setting and some allowed locking via thumbscrew. This made it a bind when putting the binocular away in its case.

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