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Darenwh
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Reged: 05/11/06
Posts: 1224
Loc: Covington, GA
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I never said what eyepiece beyond recommending the hyperzoom for a medium to high power eyepiece. I just recommend that good quality eyepieces be purchased. There are many ways to get quality. First, if you don't mind narrow FOV then Ortho's would give excellent views. Plossl's also can be great. If you want to budget a little more then getting Hyperions for the mid and low power are also excellent choices. The most expensive eyepieces, though excellent, are not necessary at all. They sell for both the very well corrected views they provide and the wide or ultrawide angle AFOV they provide.
Getting Wide angle eyepieces that cost considerabley less but provide just as well or all most as well corrected a field is fine. But, when buying, you should concentrate on insuring the eyepieces you are getting are quality.
It is nearly as easy to spend alot of money on poor performers as it is to spend it on good performers and good performers can be had at budget prices if you choose wisely.
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Daren
Covington, GA
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hfjacinto
Almost got me
Reged: 01/12/09
Posts: 2096
Loc: Union,NJ
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I personally think you can see more with a $600 scope and a $49 eyepiece than a $49 scope and a $600 eyepiece.
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C9.25 ASGT 9*50 MM Finder,FT Focuser & 2" Diagonal
Meade LXD 75 6 Inch SNT w 9*50 MM Finder
5,6,9,14.5 MM Zhummel Planetary EPs
13,17,21,24,31,36 MM Baader Hyperion
6.7,8.8 MM Meade UWA & 11 MM Nagler T6
Planetary, OIII and Narrowband Filters
Thousand Oaks Dew Control w Kendrick Heaters
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SteveTheSwede
member
Reged: 09/28/09
Posts: 18
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I have been told two stories: One, don't buy high quality EPs for a low-end scope. Others tell me a good EP improves any telescope. Any ideas as to which view is correct?
Keith 
Here's my 2 cents:
First, no eyepiece actually improve a scope. The views are limited by the weakest link in the chain. However, eyepieces that come with (cheap and some not so cheap) scopes tend to actually be the weakest link in the optical chain (i.e. the scope optics are better than the eyepieces). In that case yes, a better eyepiece will most certainly improve the view.
Second, the main question is if you figure you are gonna stay in the hobby. If the answer is yes then it makes sense to buy eyepieces that you can live with a while or forever. Scopes come and go, good eyepieces stick around. Another argument for getting good eyepieces.
Third, having said that, do not go and buy a bunch of ethos. If you wanna spend that sort of money you will get MUCH better views by spending them on a better (bigger) scope. Two ethos will buy you a 12" dob for example. It will give you way better views (with whatever ep's it comes with) than any ethos ever will in your achro.
Fourth, what I would consider the only big mistake is to get a lot of *BLEEP* eyepieces. You'll be much happier with two (or even one) good ones than a whole set of junk in assorted fl's.
So my recommendation would be to start with eyepieces in the high midrange, which is to say Baader Hyperion or equivalent. They are perfectly fine ep's, they will certainly improve your views (assuming you now have some plössls that came with the scope or similar) and they won't cost a fortune.
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Mike Hosea
Post Laureate
Reged: 09/24/03
Posts: 3960
Loc: "Metrowest" Boston
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I guess my original point was that you are better off going with better eyepieces EVEN if you never change scopes.
Yeah, and I agree, but I also said that I wouldn't want the purchase of expensive eyepieces to postpone a meaningful scope upgrade. I'm just taking the OP's assessment of "mediocre scope" at face value.
Obviously people can get to the point where, for whatever reasons, they're not in the market for another scope. In that case, my point about not postponing an upgrade is moot. I'm one to talk, actually. I built my own scope(s), sold my others (even though they were better in some ways), and just plug happily along.
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Mike
Stuff that I use:
- 7" f/6.7 home-built Newt and equatorial platform
- 6 eyepieces and a Barlow
- 120mm f/8.3 home-built grab-n-go Newt
- Canon 15x50 IS and Eagle Optics 12x50 Ranger binoculars
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Prof M
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Reged: 07/26/09
Posts: 49
Loc: Southwest Utah
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Boy, you all have given me a lot of valuable suggestions for eyepieces. It looks like the weight of opinion is with the view that a good EP will improve the performance of my 120ST. I also like the suggestion that she is a "modest", not a "mediocre" scope. 
Keith
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Rick Woods
Postmaster
Reged: 01/27/05
Posts: 5684
Loc: Inner Solar System
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It looks like the weight of opinion is with the view that a good EP will improve the performance of my 120ST.
Not improve; only minimize another potential area of performance degradation. The scope will perform the same, you're just trying to keep the eyepiece from degrading what the lens sends it. A good eyepiece will let the scope give you the best it's got.
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- Rick
14" LX200GPS
Dyslexics Untie!
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SteveC
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 06/15/06
Posts: 1775
Loc: The Garden State
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It looks like the weight of opinion is with the view that a good EP will improve the performance of my 120ST.
Not improve; only minimize another potential area of performance degradation. The scope will perform the same, you're just trying to keep the eyepiece from degrading what the lens sends it. A good eyepiece will let the scope give you the best it's got.
 That's what I call improved performance.
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SteveC
TEC 140
Intes Micro 715 deluxe
TEC 110 (on order)
SolarMax 40
Losmandy G-11 w/Gemini, DM-6 w/Sky Commander on SV wood tripod, Vixen Skypod
TEC EP Turret, TMB Supermonos, ZAO II, Naglers, 32mm Konig, 24mm Panoptics, 14mm Meade UWA
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