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Sarkikos
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 12/18/07
Posts: 1064
Loc: Suburban Maryland
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Starbux,
I do wish MMV were laminated, though, as I'm somewhat reluctant to take it out in the field. It tends to get dewy in Maryland. I have all the Rukl maps downloaded onto my mininote so I can reference them if I need to, but I prefer using hard copies. Often looking in a real book is faster and easier than using a computer version. Of course, I could print all the maps out, insert them in plastic overlays, and use them in a loose-leaf binder. I just have to get around to doing it!
Clear Skies,
Mike
P.S.: I would still like to have the original Rukl Atlas of the Moon, but that is much rarer than the MMV and much more expensive. I wish they would reprint them both.
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Celestron 10" f5 Newt on 1stBase (DSO)
Zhumell 8" f6 Newt, Bosma 6" f12 MCT (NSO)
6" f5 Newt, 130ST, 4.5" f4.4 Ball w/GLP, ST80 w/Crayford (RFTs)
C4-R (NSO/DS)
90mm f13 MCT (Luna/DS)
SkyMaster 25x100, 15x70
Zhumell 20x80
Barska XWA 10x50, 8x40
OptiView LPR 10x50
Const View 2.3x40
BV-125C
CG5, 2 drv / CG4, 2 drv, wood legs, ScopeStuff saddle / CG3, 1 drv
SV AZ / 501HDV on Bogen 055XB / P+ on Oberwerk
QuikFinder, Telrad
Orion Dynamo Pro 12, Dew-Not
Have GLP and not afraid to use it!
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RobertED
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Yes, Mike!! I was thinking about doing the same to my downloaded Rukl maps!! I'm not a big fan of bringing any kind of valuable book out in the field with me. These New England nights DO get DEWY!!!  
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Sarkikos
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 12/18/07
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Loc: Suburban Maryland
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Robert,
There are 76 Rukl lunar maps in total that can be downloaded and printed out from the internet. Well, I guess that's not too bad. I've done similar projects in the past for DSO finder charts and such. Clear protector sheets with three holes for looseleaf binders are fairly inexpensive in 100 counts at K-Mart, Walmart, etc. You can save on space and protector sheets by inserting two maps in each one. It is a very do-able project. It's defintely on my To Do List!
Cheers,
Mike
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Celestron 10" f5 Newt on 1stBase (DSO)
Zhumell 8" f6 Newt, Bosma 6" f12 MCT (NSO)
6" f5 Newt, 130ST, 4.5" f4.4 Ball w/GLP, ST80 w/Crayford (RFTs)
C4-R (NSO/DS)
90mm f13 MCT (Luna/DS)
SkyMaster 25x100, 15x70
Zhumell 20x80
Barska XWA 10x50, 8x40
OptiView LPR 10x50
Const View 2.3x40
BV-125C
CG5, 2 drv / CG4, 2 drv, wood legs, ScopeStuff saddle / CG3, 1 drv
SV AZ / 501HDV on Bogen 055XB / P+ on Oberwerk
QuikFinder, Telrad
Orion Dynamo Pro 12, Dew-Not
Have GLP and not afraid to use it!
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Sarkikos
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 12/18/07
Posts: 1064
Loc: Suburban Maryland
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On the other hand, if you download all 76 Rukl maps in one directory on your laptop's hard drive and set the View to Filmstrip mode, that's pretty neat, too.
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Celestron 10" f5 Newt on 1stBase (DSO)
Zhumell 8" f6 Newt, Bosma 6" f12 MCT (NSO)
6" f5 Newt, 130ST, 4.5" f4.4 Ball w/GLP, ST80 w/Crayford (RFTs)
C4-R (NSO/DS)
90mm f13 MCT (Luna/DS)
SkyMaster 25x100, 15x70
Zhumell 20x80
Barska XWA 10x50, 8x40
OptiView LPR 10x50
Const View 2.3x40
BV-125C
CG5, 2 drv / CG4, 2 drv, wood legs, ScopeStuff saddle / CG3, 1 drv
SV AZ / 501HDV on Bogen 055XB / P+ on Oberwerk
QuikFinder, Telrad
Orion Dynamo Pro 12, Dew-Not
Have GLP and not afraid to use it!
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RobertED
professor emeritus
Reged: 07/11/03
Posts: 1192
Loc: Johnston, RI
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Yes, I did download those Rukl charts and I did bring them over to Staples for printing! As we read this, they're being printed out! Unfortunately, I'm settling for B&W for now...it's only .09 per sheet compared to .50 per color sheet!! I'm thinking, good enough for general lunar studies at the scope...outside!!!
Ocean State Job Lot...RI's biggest 'dollar-store' chain, has plastic page protectors for $2.00 for a pkg of 10. 
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Sarkikos
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Posts: 1064
Loc: Suburban Maryland
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Sounds like a plan! Yes, I think I'll have to settle for B&W, too. The maps may even have more contrast in B&W. I'll see. I know some lunatics would disagree with me on this point, but the Moon is a pretty colorless world. B&W is fine. I look at Luna through binoviewers with a #47 Violet filter, so you know I'm not too concerned about her "natural" colors. Whatever works!
Another good idea might be to look into these scrapebooking folders. They have sheet protectors and nice substantial covers. My local stores like Ollie's, Michael's, etc. have them on sale sometimes. Just an idea.
Mike
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Celestron 10" f5 Newt on 1stBase (DSO)
Zhumell 8" f6 Newt, Bosma 6" f12 MCT (NSO)
6" f5 Newt, 130ST, 4.5" f4.4 Ball w/GLP, ST80 w/Crayford (RFTs)
C4-R (NSO/DS)
90mm f13 MCT (Luna/DS)
SkyMaster 25x100, 15x70
Zhumell 20x80
Barska XWA 10x50, 8x40
OptiView LPR 10x50
Const View 2.3x40
BV-125C
CG5, 2 drv / CG4, 2 drv, wood legs, ScopeStuff saddle / CG3, 1 drv
SV AZ / 501HDV on Bogen 055XB / P+ on Oberwerk
QuikFinder, Telrad
Orion Dynamo Pro 12, Dew-Not
Have GLP and not afraid to use it!
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RobertED
professor emeritus
Reged: 07/11/03
Posts: 1192
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I have a Michael's just down the street!! I'll check there tomorrow!! Let me tell you, the B&W looks just great!!!They were printed on a whiter stock than normal copy paper, just one grade higher...cost is .10/pg. The contrast is great, not too muddy looking, and easy to read!! Highly recommend Staples' service!!! 
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Sarkikos
Pooh-Bah
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I had a feeling the B&W would be good, maybe even improve the contrast over Rukl's original sepia hues.
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Celestron 10" f5 Newt on 1stBase (DSO)
Zhumell 8" f6 Newt, Bosma 6" f12 MCT (NSO)
6" f5 Newt, 130ST, 4.5" f4.4 Ball w/GLP, ST80 w/Crayford (RFTs)
C4-R (NSO/DS)
90mm f13 MCT (Luna/DS)
SkyMaster 25x100, 15x70
Zhumell 20x80
Barska XWA 10x50, 8x40
OptiView LPR 10x50
Const View 2.3x40
BV-125C
CG5, 2 drv / CG4, 2 drv, wood legs, ScopeStuff saddle / CG3, 1 drv
SV AZ / 501HDV on Bogen 055XB / P+ on Oberwerk
QuikFinder, Telrad
Orion Dynamo Pro 12, Dew-Not
Have GLP and not afraid to use it!
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desertstars
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Quote:
Yes, I did download those Rukl charts and I did bring them over to Staples for printing! As we read this, they're being printed out! Unfortunately, I'm settling for B&W for now...it's only .09 per sheet compared to .50 per color sheet!! I'm thinking, good enough for general lunar studies at the scope...outside!!!
Ocean State Job Lot...RI's biggest 'dollar-store' chain, has plastic page protectors for $2.00 for a pkg of 10.
I finally got around to checking this (in moderator mode - needed to make sure no copyrights we being violated by the site with the Rukl's maps). FWIW the maps appear to be from the previous edition of the atlas, and it's posted on the site that this was developed for educational purposes with the approval of Rukl.
I can't help wondering if the availability of these charts online had something to do with the demise of the most recent print edition. 
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Tom W.
Collinder's Catalog
Jewels in Dark Settings
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Sarkikos
Pooh-Bah
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Tom,
I would still like to buy a nice, spiral-bound, laminated field edition of the Rukl Moon Atlas in a somewhat larger format than the MMV, maybe something comparable to the Cambridge Double Star Atlas. The fact that I can download Rukl maps from the internet has little bearing on that fact. I'm sure there are a lot of lunatics who share that opinion. But whether or not we are a large enough demographic to warrant a new edition or a new printing of the current one, I have no idea. At any rate, I also know for a fact, from my own experience, and for whatever reason(s), the lunar enthusiasts are constantly being, uh, "disrespected" by the publishers. 'Nuff said.
Clear Skies,
Mike
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Celestron 10" f5 Newt on 1stBase (DSO)
Zhumell 8" f6 Newt, Bosma 6" f12 MCT (NSO)
6" f5 Newt, 130ST, 4.5" f4.4 Ball w/GLP, ST80 w/Crayford (RFTs)
C4-R (NSO/DS)
90mm f13 MCT (Luna/DS)
SkyMaster 25x100, 15x70
Zhumell 20x80
Barska XWA 10x50, 8x40
OptiView LPR 10x50
Const View 2.3x40
BV-125C
CG5, 2 drv / CG4, 2 drv, wood legs, ScopeStuff saddle / CG3, 1 drv
SV AZ / 501HDV on Bogen 055XB / P+ on Oberwerk
QuikFinder, Telrad
Orion Dynamo Pro 12, Dew-Not
Have GLP and not afraid to use it!
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RobertED
professor emeritus
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I for one!...love Mike's idea!!!
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Sarkikos
Pooh-Bah
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Loc: Suburban Maryland
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Celestron 10" f5 Newt on 1stBase (DSO)
Zhumell 8" f6 Newt, Bosma 6" f12 MCT (NSO)
6" f5 Newt, 130ST, 4.5" f4.4 Ball w/GLP, ST80 w/Crayford (RFTs)
C4-R (NSO/DS)
90mm f13 MCT (Luna/DS)
SkyMaster 25x100, 15x70
Zhumell 20x80
Barska XWA 10x50, 8x40
OptiView LPR 10x50
Const View 2.3x40
BV-125C
CG5, 2 drv / CG4, 2 drv, wood legs, ScopeStuff saddle / CG3, 1 drv
SV AZ / 501HDV on Bogen 055XB / P+ on Oberwerk
QuikFinder, Telrad
Orion Dynamo Pro 12, Dew-Not
Have GLP and not afraid to use it!
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Carl Kolchak
professor emeritus
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Posts: 549
Loc: Northeast, Florida
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Hi all
I received another update pushing back the shipping date. See below:
"Moonwalk with Your Eyes: A Pocket Field Guide (Astronomer's Pocket Field Guide)"
Estimated arrival date: December 24 2009
peace & clear skies,
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Richard H.
Antares 105mm f/9.5 Elite Series Refractor
AstroTelescopes 102mm f/7 Refractor
Orion ShortTube 90mm f/5.6 Refractor
Meade Model 300 80mm f/15 Refractor
Tasco Cosmic 6TE-5 50mm f/12 Refractor
Orion SkyView Pro 8" Intelliscope
Orion Scenix 10x50 Binoculars
Zhumell SuperGiant 20x80 binoculars
NightSky Journal
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Sarkikos
Pooh-Bah
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Deja vu all over again.
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Celestron 10" f5 Newt on 1stBase (DSO)
Zhumell 8" f6 Newt, Bosma 6" f12 MCT (NSO)
6" f5 Newt, 130ST, 4.5" f4.4 Ball w/GLP, ST80 w/Crayford (RFTs)
C4-R (NSO/DS)
90mm f13 MCT (Luna/DS)
SkyMaster 25x100, 15x70
Zhumell 20x80
Barska XWA 10x50, 8x40
OptiView LPR 10x50
Const View 2.3x40
BV-125C
CG5, 2 drv / CG4, 2 drv, wood legs, ScopeStuff saddle / CG3, 1 drv
SV AZ / 501HDV on Bogen 055XB / P+ on Oberwerk
QuikFinder, Telrad
Orion Dynamo Pro 12, Dew-Not
Have GLP and not afraid to use it!
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scopethis
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Posts: 636
Loc: Kingman, Ks
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Well I just broke down and bought that New Atlas of the Moon book for $15.00 (new) on-line. It was money well spent. This atlas is a good companion to Wood's Modern Moon book.
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RobertED
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Loc: Johnston, RI
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I think "New Atlas of the Moon" is a great book!!
In case anyone is keeping score...I still haven't received my copy of Rukl's "Moon, Mars & Venus". I ordered it from Alibris Bookseller on 9/22/09 and they suggested it would come by 10/25. Not Yet!!!
They tell me it is coming from an overseas dealer...England!! So now I gotta keep waiting!! 
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RobertED
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Posts: 1192
Loc: Johnston, RI
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I received this message today, from Alibris.......
Dear Robert,
You recently ordered the item listed below. We regret to report that we have not received the item below in our warehouse. Due to the length of time the order has been outstanding, we believe it was lost en route to us. To give you an opportunity to place a new order for this item, we have cancelled this order.
Moon, Mars and Venus (Concise Guides in Colour)
by : Antonin Rukl
You will receive a full refund for the cancelled item. And we hope you will consider the following replacement item:
I @#$%*&^ give up!!!    
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Carl Kolchak
professor emeritus
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Posts: 549
Loc: Northeast, Florida
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Quote:
I received this message today, from Alibris.......
Dear Robert,
You recently ordered the item listed below. We regret to report that we have not received the item below in our warehouse. Due to the length of time the order has been outstanding, we believe it was lost en route to us. To give you an opportunity to place a new order for this item, we have cancelled this order.
Moon, Mars and Venus (Concise Guides in Colour)
by : Antonin Rukl
You will receive a full refund for the cancelled item. And we hope you will consider the following replacement item:
I @#$%*&^ give up!!!
Wow Robert I thought my luck was bad? Don't give up on MMV. Period! You need this book in your astro library. If you use ebay place a search in there and ebay will notify you when one comes available. Keep looking for one!
peace & clear skies,
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Richard H.
Antares 105mm f/9.5 Elite Series Refractor
AstroTelescopes 102mm f/7 Refractor
Orion ShortTube 90mm f/5.6 Refractor
Meade Model 300 80mm f/15 Refractor
Tasco Cosmic 6TE-5 50mm f/12 Refractor
Orion SkyView Pro 8" Intelliscope
Orion Scenix 10x50 Binoculars
Zhumell SuperGiant 20x80 binoculars
NightSky Journal
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John Flannery
sage
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Posts: 328
Loc: Dublin, Ireland
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Hi Robert,
PM sent about a spare copy I have.
All the best,
John
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Ireland's FREE sky guide for the year ahead at www.mediafire.com/skyguide
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RobertED
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I hear ya', John!!! Let's talk!!  
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