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mtb54703
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Typical AFOV for 7x50s? new
      #3429142 - 11/04/09 12:37 PM

It appears that the AFOV for 7x50s is about 49°-50° - correct?

One exception that I can find info on is the William Optics 7x50s which claim to be 75°. But they are heavy. Currently the Vixen Foresta is at the top of my list.

I'm still devouring EdZ's past posts, will probably stumble across a table eventually.

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Meade 12" Lightbridge
Garrett 100mm F/5.3 45º Binocular Telescope
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Re: Typical AFOV for 7x50s? new [Re: mtb54703]
      #3429172 - 11/04/09 12:53 PM

Hi, Mike,

I believe the AFOV figure on the WO site is a misprint; the true FOV is listed as 7.5° which would equate to 52.5° AFOV. I think they mistakenly calculated AFOV for 10x, not 7x!

Rich V

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Re: Typical AFOV for 7x50s? new [Re: Rich V.]
      #3429219 - 11/04/09 01:24 PM

Still, 7.5° for a 7x50 is pretty decent. Most are between 7° and 7.3°. I belive the vintage SarD 41 had a 10° TFOV. Unfortunately one sold on eBay recently for over $2K. The ProStar is listed as 7.3°

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Re: Typical AFOV for 7x50s? new [Re: pcad]
      #3429230 - 11/04/09 01:27 PM

Here's what EdZ wrote in his review of the WO 7x50:

Quote:

The fov is stated as 7° 30’, or 7.5°. I measured the True field of view as 7.3° to 7.4°, very close to stated. That gives an eyepiece with an Afov of 52°.




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Re: Typical AFOV for 7x50s? new [Re: Rich V.]
      #3429255 - 11/04/09 01:39 PM

Quote:

Hi, Mike,

I believe the AFOV figure on the WO site is a misprint; the true FOV is listed as 7.5° which would equate to 52.5° AFOV. I think they mistakenly calculated AFOV for 10x, not 7x!

Rich V




Thanks - that's what I was thinking.

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18" F/4.11 AstroSystems Telekit under construction
Meade 12" Lightbridge
Garrett 100mm F/5.3 45º Binocular Telescope
Vixen Foresta 7x50
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Re: Typical AFOV for 7x50s? new [Re: mtb54703]
      #3429399 - 11/04/09 03:21 PM

Oberwerk Mariner 7x50 6.3 45
Captain's Storm King 7x50 7.2 50
William Optic 7x50 ED 7.4 52
Nikon ProStar 7x50 7.5 53
Vixen Foresta 7x50 7.1 50
Captain's Helmsman 7x50 7.3 51

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Re: Typical AFOV for 7x50s? new [Re: mtb54703]
      #3429565 - 11/04/09 04:40 PM

http://www.bigbinoculars.com/m750w.htm

http://www.holgermerlitz.de/miyauchi7x50.html

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Re: Typical AFOV for 7x50s? new [Re: hallelujah]
      #3429595 - 11/04/09 04:55 PM

Quote:

http://www.bigbinoculars.com/m750w.htm




Wow - those are impressive, but it sounds like they had a few flaws. Did the Chinese ever get around to making a copy of those too?

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Garrett 100mm F/5.3 45º Binocular Telescope
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Re: Typical AFOV for 7x50s? new [Re: mtb54703]
      #3429789 - 11/04/09 07:48 PM

In a way I kind of have a 'Miyauchi Binon.' With the 50mm objectives and 71 deg. AFoV eyepieces installed onto my Mk II right angle bino, it works at about 7.4X with a 9.5 deg. field.

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Re: Typical AFOV for 7x50s? new [Re: GlennLeDrew]
      #3430098 - 11/04/09 10:44 PM

There are examples of Japanese made 'Wide Angle' binos from the 60's to the late 80's. They do have the disadvantage of the earlier and inferior 'coated only' lens and limited eye relief.
However many are still very useable if in good condition and mildew free. I have a 80's 'Scope' 7x50 with a 9.5 degree FOV. It works well on dark skies and certainly gives a 'panoramic' image with is 66 dgree Afov.

Chris

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Re: Typical AFOV for 7x50s? [Re: charen]
      #3430334 - 11/05/09 01:27 AM

Hi all,

I have three 7x50 very wide actual FOV binoculars. Two are 10*, while one is 11*, all of which are hard to come by these days. And, nope, I wouldn't sell a one of them!

My favourite 10* is the NOVA. The 11* Binolux is a real pleasure to use. But, we are getting way too far out there for an apparent optically perfect generation of optics. The Japanese actually produced some fantastic optcs then, and, they still do so.

Of the three mentioned, the Celestron NOVA is an absolute stunner. But for all practical considerings (see Edz' take on this--worthwhile), why not just use an EWF 7x35. Hey, we can't get everything for nothing, e.g., weight, prism size, cost, or even vintage.

I got lucky enough on eBay. I didn't get burned. FYI.

Best regards,
Dave.


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