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John K
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Loc: Vernon BC Canada
35mmPan
      #3432868 - 11/06/09 01:02 PM

Does the 35mm Pan Barlow well?Is there too much eye relief?

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Bushnell 76mm Modified Dob (Little Richie)

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Astronomik filters OIII UHC
Televue Eyepieces 31mmNagler,32mmPL,15mmPL,13mm Ethos,11mm PL,2X Barlow
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bsim
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Re: 35mmPan new [Re: John K]
      #3432912 - 11/06/09 01:22 PM

The Pan 35 already has a lot of eye relief. In my case, it was too much. I use a Televue eyeguard extender which makes it useable. I've barlowed it and didn't like it. Eye relief increased and I didn't like the extra weight of a 2" barlow plus the Pan 35. If you wear glasses, this may not be an issue.

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Tank
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Reged: 07/27/09
Posts: 139
Loc: Ontario, CANADA
Re: 35mmPan new [Re: bsim]
      #3432944 - 11/06/09 01:42 PM

35mm pan with the eyeguard extender it works perfect!
I will try and take off the extender and see if i like it as much.
I bought it with the extender on it already on the used market!
Using a barlow with 35mm i never heard to much about that combo. Might mean it doesn't work all that great!

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8" Skywatcher DOB F5.9 1200mm
Antares barlow x3
TV Plossls 10.5mm,20mm,26mm,32mm
8.8mm meade 4000 UWA
12mm Nagler T4
35mm TV Panoptic
40mm Meade 3000
Baader Hyperion ZOOM 8-24mm

SPACE A PORTRAIT OF PERFECTION!
Tony

Edited by Tank (11/06/09 01:44 PM)


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Lane
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Reged: 11/19/07
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Re: 35mmPan new [Re: Tank]
      #3432967 - 11/06/09 01:56 PM

What is this eyeguard extender you guys are talking about?

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SCTs: C6, C8, C9.25, C11,
Refractors: TV Pronto, Orion ED80


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Tank
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Re: 35mmPan new [Re: Lane]
      #3432987 - 11/06/09 02:10 PM

Take a look here,
http://televue.com/engine/page.asp?ID=249

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8" Skywatcher DOB F5.9 1200mm
Antares barlow x3
TV Plossls 10.5mm,20mm,26mm,32mm
8.8mm meade 4000 UWA
12mm Nagler T4
35mm TV Panoptic
40mm Meade 3000
Baader Hyperion ZOOM 8-24mm

SPACE A PORTRAIT OF PERFECTION!
Tony


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astro744
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Re: 35mmPan new [Re: John K]
      #3432989 - 11/06/09 02:11 PM

No to the first question and yes to the second.

You need either a 2x Powermate or a 2x Big Barlow with Barlow Interface. See http://www.televue.com/engine/page.asp?ID=24 and http://www.televue.com/engine/page.asp?ID=42 and http://www.televue.com/engine/page.asp?ID=41

The Powermate allows the eyepiece to operate as designed with no vignetting and no increase in eye relief. The Tele Vue Barlow Interface in effect converts the Tele Vue 2x Big Barlow into a Tele Vue 2x Powermate.


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Reged: 05/14/05
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Re: 35mmPan new [Re: Tank]
      #3433169 - 11/06/09 03:41 PM

Without the eyeguard extender, I had blackouts viewing thru the 35Pan, unless my eye was positioned just so. With the extender, no blackouts, viewing very easy & comfortable.

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Carol


AstroTech 16" Dob (Thanks ASTRONOMICS!)
Vixen 80MF/AstroTech Voyager
Masuyama's 7.5, 15, 25W, 35mm,
Pentaxes; 5XW, 7XL, 10XW.
14mm Meade 4000 UWA
TV Panoptics; 22, 35

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Lane
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Reged: 11/19/07
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Re: 35mmPan new [Re: Tank]
      #3433328 - 11/06/09 05:09 PM

Quote:

Take a look here,
http://televue.com/engine/page.asp?ID=249




This link goes to nothing

But I found it on the astronomics site, I think I will order one and try it out. Here is the Link

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Mounts: CGEM, ORION SIRIUS, AT Voyager/motorized
SCTs: C6, C8, C9.25, C11,
Refractors: TV Pronto, Orion ED80


Edited by Lane (11/06/09 05:14 PM)


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Tank
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Loc: Ontario, CANADA
Re: 35mmPan new [Re: Lane]
      #3433406 - 11/06/09 05:57 PM

thats the extender!
The link i provided they just pulled i think!
It was up this morning!

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8" Skywatcher DOB F5.9 1200mm
Antares barlow x3
TV Plossls 10.5mm,20mm,26mm,32mm
8.8mm meade 4000 UWA
12mm Nagler T4
35mm TV Panoptic
40mm Meade 3000
Baader Hyperion ZOOM 8-24mm

SPACE A PORTRAIT OF PERFECTION!
Tony


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Re: 35mmPan new [Re: Tank]
      #3433424 - 11/06/09 06:05 PM

Quote:

thats the extender!
The link i provided they just pulled i think!
It was up this morning!




BTW; another member had posted a few days ago, that the extender is discontinued. So if you want one, better get it while you can still find them. That might be why the TV link to it, not longer is valid.

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Carol


AstroTech 16" Dob (Thanks ASTRONOMICS!)
Vixen 80MF/AstroTech Voyager
Masuyama's 7.5, 15, 25W, 35mm,
Pentaxes; 5XW, 7XL, 10XW.
14mm Meade 4000 UWA
TV Panoptics; 22, 35

DreamCatcher Dobservatory, #2



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Re: 35mmPan new [Re: John K]
      #3433445 - 11/06/09 06:16 PM Attachment (8 downloads)

I just got my new 35mm Pan. and love it. Yes, it does have a lot of ER but I found that the extender was still a little short on making it truly comfortable to view with.
I made a taller one thats the cats meow. Instead of 8mm extra height, its 11mm.
Tom likes it too...

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Kerry



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stevecoe
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Re: 35mmPan new [Re: Sky Captain]
      #3433854 - 11/06/09 10:10 PM

I am fortunate enough to not need the extender, I have the skill to use the eyepiece without it. I find that having a 35mm and 27mm Panoptic provide the very best wide angle viewing I have ever had. I cannot use the 31 Nagler because of constant blackouts. I have used my Panoptics against a wide variety of other eyepieces in their focal length range and have never seen one that makes me want to give up my Panoptics. The 35mm Pan and a 2 inch UHC filter in the TV 102 gives a wonderful view of the North American nebula, the Veil, Lagoon and Trifid, California and Sword of Orion. Without the filter the Double Cluster, M24 or Pleiades are magnificent.

I know it is not exactly the double magnification that you seek, but I also really like my 22mm Panoptic. Just a thought.

Enjoy;
Steve Coe

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TeleVue 102 refractor on CGEM mount
10 inch f/4.7 Newtonian
Author "Deep Sky Observing" Springer-Verlag
Author "Nebulae and How to Observe Them" Springer
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Re: 35mmPan new [Re: Sky Captain]
      #3433867 - 11/06/09 10:20 PM

Wow Kerry! That's a beauty!

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Carol


AstroTech 16" Dob (Thanks ASTRONOMICS!)
Vixen 80MF/AstroTech Voyager
Masuyama's 7.5, 15, 25W, 35mm,
Pentaxes; 5XW, 7XL, 10XW.
14mm Meade 4000 UWA
TV Panoptics; 22, 35

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