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darylf96
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UWA EPs - Considering Adding a Few new
      #3432274 - 11/06/09 02:41 AM

My collection of EPs is short on 80-82 deg. types. I am not into the super high-priced EPs, and am considering either the Meade Series 5000 UWA or the Explore Scientific UWA of 14,18 and 24mm FL. I have read reviews of the Meade EPs, but am curious about the ES brand. Would appreciate comments from owners of these UWA EPs.

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Skywatcher 150mm f8 Achro
G-11, CG5A-GT Mounts
DM-6 With Sky Commander DSC
Astro-Tech AT80 Refractor f6.9 APO
Stellarvue 20x85 binos - Unimount
Kunming United Optics 7x50 binocs
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Newfie Ninja
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Re: UWA EPs - Considering Adding a Few new [Re: darylf96]
      #3432408 - 11/06/09 07:29 AM

You should definitely look at the William Optics Uwan EP's, They get good reviews and I can speak from personal experience that they are quality ep's and are affordable compared to some other Ultra Wides.

Cheers

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Re: UWA EPs - Considering Adding a Few new [Re: Newfie Ninja]
      #3432423 - 11/06/09 07:56 AM

Hey,

I've had occasion to speak with two vendors about the Meade, Celestron and ES eyepieces. They both tell pretty much the same story. Each will sell the Explore Scientific 100 degree EPs, but will not be carrying their 82 degree line. The reason, in each case per the vendor, is that all three of these firms' 82 degree eyepieces come from the same source. Since they carry Celestron and Meade already, they won't bother with what amounts to stock duplication. I'm sure you can see that the focal lengths of the ES/Meades are identical ('cept for the 8.8mm Meade vs. 11mm ES), and the exterior design of the ES is similar to that of Celestron's.

So, performance, once again per the vendors, is pretty much identical. Now, that being said, looking through Celestron's 15mm and Meade's 14mm I was pretty impressed, and generally both C & M EPs in these lines have been well received.

T'were it me, seeing as how you're just down the road from ES, and (assuming they stick around) they have a five year warranty on their EPs, I'd consider getting the ES versions.

I have not tried to do any rigorous testing of these myself, but one thing to keep in mind is that the 18/19mm EPs have shorter (13mm) eye relief than the others. So, in addtion to having a wide field you can't really capture without moving your eye around a bit, if you wear glasses that might be a problem.

Over the last few years I haven't seen more than a handful of Meade UWAs or Celestron Axiom LXs for sale on A-Mart. I think that says quite a bit about how satisfied folks seem to be with their choices.

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Arizona-Ken
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Re: UWA EPs - Considering Adding a Few new [Re: letimotif]
      #3432477 - 11/06/09 08:45 AM

There have been a few comments in the forum on the Axioms, and they have been received favorably. Also check out Michael Daugherty's review on the 15 mm. I have the Axiom 10 mm and it works very well in my f/10 C8. It compares very nicely with a 11 mm Nagler.

Looking at your line-up of scopes, I think the Axiom line is worth your consideration.

Arizona Ken

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Re: UWA EPs - Considering Adding a Few new [Re: Arizona-Ken]
      #3432536 - 11/06/09 09:22 AM

I have 2 of the Meade UWA and will say that they are very close to Naglers for 30% less.

I don't have expereince with the Axioms but the UWA cost less than Axioms. If you like the Axiom look but want them cheaper get the ES 82* EP's. I don't think you can do wrong with any of these Ep's.

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5,6,9,14.5 MM Zhummel Planetary EPs
13,17,21,24,31,36 MM Baader Hyperion
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deSitter
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Re: UWA EPs - Considering Adding a Few new [Re: hfjacinto]
      #3432566 - 11/06/09 09:48 AM

I have all of them, and my only complaint is a general one against all wide field designs, namely spherical aberration of the exit pupil makes terrestrial use impossible and makes astronomical use an eye-wrenching chore. The only thing that stands out about the line is the 14mm, which has some significant curvature of field (at least mine does) - the rest are uniformly excellent optically, and so really is the 14mm in refractors.

-drl


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RonBurgundy
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Re: UWA EPs - Considering Adding a Few new [Re: deSitter]
      #3432728 - 11/06/09 11:28 AM

I have the full set of the 5000 series UWAs. While I haven't looked through the Explore Scientific, I can tell you that the Meades are amazing. They are now my only eyepieces..I even use them in an f/5 scope, and the quality of the view is amazing! They're expensive, but as has already been said, they're not even close to the price of a Nagler...and as far as I'm concerned, they're of the same quality. I actually prefer them--eye positioning is more comfortable. Good luck with your decision. Let us know!

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Orion 120mm F/5.0 Piggybacked Refractor
Meade UWA Set [4.7mm-30mm]
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Re: UWA EPs - Considering Adding a Few new [Re: RonBurgundy]
      #3432734 - 11/06/09 11:33 AM

I can say the 31mm,23mm and 10mm Celestron Axiom LX are excellent eps. IMO

Clear Skies!

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UO EPs 5MM,6MM,7MM,12.5MM
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Re: UWA EPs - Considering Adding a Few new [Re: jack45]
      #3432753 - 11/06/09 11:43 AM

I've owned all the Meade 5K UWAs and can safely say they are a great bang for the buck ep, my favorites being the 18 and 24mm. I don't think you can go wrong with them.

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Re: UWA EPs - Considering Adding a Few [Re: cuzimthedad]
      #3432898 - 11/06/09 01:14 PM

I have the 23mm Axiom LX and the views are quite nice in my TEC140. It could use a tad more eye relief but I've seen worse. It's a funky looking thing. At first I didn't like the look but it's grown on me. I'm tempted to get the massive 31mm. Great for shock value ... pulling that big "spud" out of your ep box!

Rob

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