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AlexDJ30
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Any 50mm APO refractors in the market??
      #3433449 - 11/06/09 06:16 PM

Does anybody knows if there are apo refractors in the 50mm size?, the only one i know its the borg 45ED , is there any other?.. I think there wasa takashi one..but i dont remember welll.

I want a 50mm apo to be a guide scope and to do some very wide AP with it , so if anybody knows any apo on that size please tell me

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- C6 ASGT
- WO 66mm SD
- 2.5X ED Barlow, 8-24mm Zoom Eyepice
- Canon EOS Rebel XSi
- Celestron Nextimagen
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Re: Any 50mm APO refractors in the market?? new [Re: AlexDJ30]
      #3433479 - 11/06/09 06:25 PM

adding 10mm gets you a TV60is

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Re: Any 50mm APO refractors in the market?? new [Re: AlexDJ30]
      #3433489 - 11/06/09 06:29 PM

For the guide scope requirement I wouldn't be concerned with whether it's an apochromat or not. Centroids can be calculated even with purple halos. Astrophotography, of course, is another matter. The TV60is is the closest scope I know of to what you are looking for.

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- Jared Willson
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  • Fluorostar FLT-110 w/ TEC optics
  • Stellarvue SV80S
  • Astro-Physics Mach1 GTO
  • Takahashi Teegul SP Mount
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islandsteve11
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Re: Any 50mm APO refractors in the market?? new [Re: Jared]
      #3433606 - 11/06/09 07:30 PM

Don't forget the Tak FS-60.



Edited by islandsteve11 (11/06/09 07:37 PM)


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Re: Any 50mm APO refractors in the market?? new [Re: islandsteve11]
      #3433754 - 11/06/09 09:01 PM

Or the Astro-Tech AT66ED.

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6 achro refractors, 50mm-150mm
1 apo refractor, 90mm
1 SCT, 8 inch
UO Abbe Volcano Tops
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TONGKW
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Re: Any 50mm APO refractors in the market?? new [Re: AlexDJ30]
      #3433801 - 11/06/09 09:31 PM

A top choice would be the Mini Borg 50 ED II refractor (50 mm f/10), apart from a bit expensive.
http://www.sciencecenter.net/hutech/prices/borgparts/html/2052.htm

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Joe H
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Re: Any 50mm APO refractors in the market?? new [Re: TONGKW]
      #3433836 - 11/06/09 09:58 PM

Bill Burgess is talking about making one check out the Burgess Refractor forum on yahoo groups. With Bill you never quite know about delivery time or how to actually buy one, but for the adventurous it may be worth a shot.

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Re: Any 50mm APO refractors in the market?? new [Re: AlexDJ30]
      #3433849 - 11/06/09 10:08 PM

Just to toss it out - if your primary reason for a 50mm apo is wide-field and light weight, seriously consider the 60mm apo's that are available. They have similar focal length to the few smaller apo's out there for not much more weight. The Borg 60mm ED might be of interest due to its very light weight and design with imaging/guiding in mind. The TV60is would be another strong contender, though costs more than the Borg.

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Re: Any 50mm APO refractors in the market?? new [Re: JayKSC]
      #3433912 - 11/06/09 10:50 PM

You are right about a 50mm Tak. Takahashi made a Tak FC-50 but they are rare on the used market I think

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Benro C-357 tripod/Microstar mount
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Edited by Dragonwatcher (11/06/09 10:56 PM)


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Erik Bakker
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Re: Any 50mm APO refractors in the market?? new [Re: AlexDJ30]
      #3434258 - 11/07/09 08:20 AM

Quote:

Does anybody knows if there are apo refractors in the 50mm size?, the only one i know its the borg 45ED , is there any other?.. I think there wasa takashi one..but i dont remember welll.

I want a 50mm apo to be a guide scope and to do some very wide AP with it , so if anybody knows any apo on that size please tell me




Hi Alex,

I have a Celestron (Vixen) C55 F , a 55mm f/8 fluorite doublet. It has exquisite optics, in the 1/10th wave P-V range. It is extremely well color-corrected. For photography, you might be better of with the 70mm f/8 fluorite with it's dedicated field-flattener, turning it into an f/5.6 astrograph. On both scopes, the lens cell, tube and baffles are superb. The focusser is just adequate. If need arises, a Moonlite or Feathertouch can solve that.

Clear skies,

Erik

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Visual astronomer, main instruments:

Fully mounted Questar 7 P-BB

Celestron C 102F f/8.8 fluorite
Vixen FL 70S f/8 fluorite
Celestron C 55F f/8 fluorite

Sets of Zeiss, TeleVue and Brandon eyepieces

Zeiss 7x50 Marine B/GA

Zeiss TM german equatorial
Gitzo 224 with Manfrotto 501 fluid head
Unitron alt-az mount



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Re: Any 50mm APO refractors in the market?? new [Re: Erik Bakker]
      #3434753 - 11/07/09 02:10 PM

Yeah- the FC50 is hard to find, but the FC60 shows up from time to time. It's a scope I need to spend more time with. I took it outside the other night to look at Jupiter and went all the way to 5mm with it... Amazing little guy.




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Edited by s800 (11/07/09 02:14 PM)


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Re: Any 50mm APO refractors in the market?? new [Re: s800]
      #3434984 - 11/07/09 04:45 PM

Quote:

Yeah- the FC50 is hard to find, but the FC60 shows up from time to time. It's a scope I need to spend more time with. I took it outside the other night to look at Jupiter and went all the way to 5mm with it... Amazing little guy.







Yes it is!

CS,

Erik

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Visual astronomer, main instruments:

Fully mounted Questar 7 P-BB

Celestron C 102F f/8.8 fluorite
Vixen FL 70S f/8 fluorite
Celestron C 55F f/8 fluorite

Sets of Zeiss, TeleVue and Brandon eyepieces

Zeiss 7x50 Marine B/GA

Zeiss TM german equatorial
Gitzo 224 with Manfrotto 501 fluid head
Unitron alt-az mount



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dsnope
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Re: Any 50mm APO refractors in the market?? new [Re: AlexDJ30]
      #3435067 - 11/07/09 05:39 PM

Canon 100mm F/2 USM

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johnnyha
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Re: Any 50mm APO refractors in the market?? new [Re: dsnope]
      #3435084 - 11/07/09 05:54 PM

There is one flourite APO FS-60C F/5.9 on APMAmerica for $839.00. There is a reducer available to take it down to F/4.4.

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Re: Any 50mm APO refractors in the market?? new [Re: s800]
      #3435125 - 11/07/09 06:17 PM

Quote:

Yeah- the FC50 is hard to find, but the FC60 shows up from time to time. It's a scope I need to spend more time with. I took it outside the other night to look at Jupiter and went all the way to 5mm with it... Amazing little guy.




don't tell me...with the 5mm it was blindingly bright, ruined your dark adaptation for hours....you gotta get a filter

Greg N

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Re: Any 50mm APO refractors in the market?? new [Re: gnowellsct]
      #3435709 - 11/08/09 01:12 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Yeah- the FC50 is hard to find, but the FC60 shows up from time to time. It's a scope I need to spend more time with. I took it outside the other night to look at Jupiter and went all the way to 5mm with it... Amazing little guy.




don't tell me...with the 5mm it was blindingly bright, ruined your dark adaptation for hours....you gotta get a filter

Greg N




Oh, come on. You're just being silly. Of course the image wouldn't have been that bright through a 50mm with a 5mm eyepiece. I'm sure he was using a polarizing filter to cut down on the glare.

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- Jared Willson
  • TMB 152 f/8 Apochromat
  • Fluorostar FLT-110 w/ TEC optics
  • Stellarvue SV80S
  • Astro-Physics Mach1 GTO
  • Takahashi Teegul SP Mount
  • STL-11000



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daniel_h
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Re: Any 50mm APO refractors in the market?? new [Re: Jared]
      #3435770 - 11/08/09 02:59 AM

keep in mind the org 50ED is an f10 (for some strange reason -either get the 45 or go for the 60 ED {it only weighs just over a lb}

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Oly e-500, vixen 100/1000 with 0.965"/1.25",
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johnnyha
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Re: Any 50mm APO refractors in the market?? new [Re: daniel_h]
      #3436381 - 11/08/09 01:16 PM

There was a FS-60CSV on Amart for $675 today it went immediately. Had I seen it in time I woulda got it myself!

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AlexDJ30
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Re: Any 50mm APO refractors in the market?? new [Re: johnnyha]
      #3436478 - 11/08/09 02:18 PM

Thanx guys! I am looking for a 50mm apo scope because i already have a 66mm wo sd one but i put it in dual saddle plate but i Too have a normal raci 50mm Finder from Sv and for me its more easy using the Finder bracket of the Finder than the dual saddle plate, soo i wanted to know if there are more options than the 50mm tak and the 45mm Borg. But on the f/5 or 6 there isnt much to choose from

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- ETX 125 AT
- C6 ASGT
- WO 66mm SD
- 2.5X ED Barlow, 8-24mm Zoom Eyepice
- Canon EOS Rebel XSi
- Celestron Nextimagen
- Orion Starshoot CCD cam


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Re: Any 50mm APO refractors in the market?? new [Re: AlexDJ30]
      #3440478 - 11/10/09 04:09 PM

Quote:

Does anybody knows if there are apo refractors in the 50mm size?, the only one i know its the borg 45ED , is there any other?.. I think there wasa takashi one..but i dont remember welll.

I want a 50mm apo to be a guide scope and to do some very wide AP with it , so if anybody knows any apo on that size please tell me




The only thing I know of at this aperture are finder scopes and binoculars...

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