szunker
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Hi,
I am thinking of purchasing a pair of 15x70 bino's for astronomy use and was wondering if anybody knew if there were any differences between Oberwerks 15x70 ultra,Garrett Optical 15x70 signatures or Orion 15x 70 Resolux..is one better than the other?? or is there something better?
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richsvt
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Loc: Boston
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They are basically the same the item. Small differences, say like threaded ocular to accept filters...I just got the GO SS and they are wonderful.
Best to choose the best price matched to the right vendor for customer service. Look for free includes (tripod adapter) and cheaper shipping rates.
You won't be disappointed!
Having dealt with Zach Garrett, I can't say enough good things. What a wonderful experience.
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szunker
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Do you need eyeglasses? If so is the eye relief enough? Because I ware eye glasses.
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Rich V.
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Steven, welcome to Binoculars! I noticed you haven't got an answer yet about the eye relief of the 15x70 Ultra type binoculars.
For eyeglass wearers, the useable eye relief is only about 10mm which is really not recommended. 15mm would give a greater chance of seeing the entire field of view with glasses. The 10.5x70 and 15x85 of the series have much better eye relief for glasses wearers.
Of course, some eyeglass wearers may be able to use them without problems depending on eyeglass type and individual facial features.
I know they wouldn't work with my eyeglasses! 
If you can't try a pair first, make sure the vendor has a good return policy.
Rich V
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Binoculars:
33/50/75/150x100 Saturn III, 16x70 FMT-SX, 10x50 PCF-V, 10x43 DCF-SP, 10x35 E2, 7x35 E, 8x30 E2, 7x26 Custom, 8x23AS Diplomat, 8x23 Travelite
Scopes:
C9.25, 6" f8 reflector, SV80S
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F.Meiresonne
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They are all thesame IMO and are know as the Kunming Optical BA Series 8 binoculars. I have mine from Teleskope Service and there he is called the TS Marine.
Very nice bino which i like very much.
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Freddy Meiresonne
Obsession 18 inch #1638
Orion Optics 8 inch F/4.5 -1/8 wave optics -Vixen GP-E
20x80 Helios Stellar Binos
15x70 TS Marine (=Obie Ultra)
10x60 Helios Quantum 4(= Obie Mariner)
10x50 Helios Nature sport plus
8x40 Helios Nature sport plus
Eyepieces in use :Pan 35,24,19, N13T6, Pentax 10 XW, N9T6, Ultrascopic 7.5, TV2, baader ortho 12.5 and 9 mm
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Man in a Tub
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Until recently, I have rarely used my eyeglasses with my binoculars. But I find that it's probably best to do so. So I have been "transitioning." I had no problem at all with my GO SS 15x70 a little over a week ago. However, this is just a personal report without any specifics as to why I had no problems.
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Todd
Brunton Eterna 15x51 ° Garrett Optical Signature Series 15x70
Nikon Action EX 12x50 ° Oberwerk 15x60 and 20x80 Standard
Orion Paragon Plus Mount and Paragon XHD Tripod
Garrett Optical Series 2000 Grip-Action Monopod
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F.Meiresonne
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Now i come to think of it : I have used my TS Marine with my eyeglasses and with the eyecups folded down i had no trouble to see the entire field to the edge.
Eyerelief is excellent to me. But that just me and may not work for everyone.
My Obie 10x60(Helions Quantum) has too much eyerelief even with eyeglasses on it keeps blacking out if my eyeposition if just a bit off line...
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Freddy Meiresonne
Obsession 18 inch #1638
Orion Optics 8 inch F/4.5 -1/8 wave optics -Vixen GP-E
20x80 Helios Stellar Binos
15x70 TS Marine (=Obie Ultra)
10x60 Helios Quantum 4(= Obie Mariner)
10x50 Helios Nature sport plus
8x40 Helios Nature sport plus
Eyepieces in use :Pan 35,24,19, N13T6, Pentax 10 XW, N9T6, Ultrascopic 7.5, TV2, baader ortho 12.5 and 9 mm
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Joe Lalumia
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Neat deal on Amazon.com --- 2 books, & binoculars, and a tripod attachment; $107.
http://www.amazon.com/Celestron-SkyMaster-Binoculars-Tripod-Adapter/dp/B00008Y0VN/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1257379719&sr=8-1
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LX90 8" LNT, SV Nighthawk & TelePOD, SV 80/9D & M4 mount, ETX 90, Orion XT10i, 20x80 binoculars, SV-BV3s-- www.texasastro.org
"Great minds discuss ideas;Average minds discuss events;Small minds discuss people." Unknown
Edited by Joe Lalumia (11/04/09 07:13 PM)
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richsvt
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I am sorry I didn't respond right away.
It is true that the eye relief is rather close. I do not wear glasses so haven't had any issues.
My wife has tried to use these and to get proper distance, all she had to do was fold down the eye cups.
I highly recommend these.
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szunker
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Loc: MIlwaukee, WI.
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Thanks for all the answers they help! I think I will buy a pair of these, the eye relief will probably will work for me?! But I need to sell a pair of Pentax 8x43 DCF SP first, (know anybody interested)? excellent pair but a little too small for astronomy.Oh ya the amazon link is a good deal but I want a higher Quality pair I was told that the bridge flexes causing unbalanced focus in each eye.
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hallelujah
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Quote:
I want a higher Quality pair I was told that the bridge flexes causing unbalanced focus in each eye.
http://www.garrettoptical.com/product-p/s70hd-wp.htm
The Garrett Optical comes with additional free items.
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Celestron Traveler 8x25 & B. & H. 8x40 FC JAPAN & Revue 10x50 CF Porro FC JAPAN &
Pentax 12x50 PCF WP II FMC & Pentax 16x60 PCF WP FMC &
Pentax 20x60 PCF WP II FMC & Orion 12x63 Mini Giant FMC JAPAN &
SPECTRUM I 20x65 FC JAPAN &
Orion 15x70 Little Giant II FMC JAPAN & Orion 20x70 Little Giant II FMC JAPAN
Orion 16x80 Giant FMC JAPAN & Orion 30x80 MEGAView FMC JAPAN
Barska 30x80 X-Trail LW FC & Burgess Optical Series II 20x90 FMC
Hallelujah! For the LORD God Omnipotent Reigneth
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szunker
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Yes that one!
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Tad S.
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I bought a pair of 15x70 signatures last year, but had to return them do to short eye relief. I hated to do it because everything else about these were very fine. The field of view that I got with these while wearing glasses was about the same as what I see in my 20x80s, only smaller. So I couldn't justify keeping them. However, I would still recommend them for the unbespectacled --Tad
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Orion XT8i, Vixen ED80Sf, Oberwerk BT-80/45
20x80 Oberwerk Std., 12x50 Nikon AE,
42mm Celestron Regal LX (8x & 10x), 8x40 Pentax PCF WP
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szunker
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Oh I See (haha), I am a little worried about the eye relief on the signatures. Does anybody know how good these are "GarrettŪ Gemini 15x70 WP-IF/CF Binoculars"they are cheaper only 229.95?? Did a search but could not find anything on them.
http://www.astronomybinoculars.com/Garrett_Waterproof_15x70_Astronomy_Binoculars_p/g1570wp.htm
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Supperconductor
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I'm expecting my GO SS 10.5 x 70's next week. I understand these have extra eye relief (I do wear glasses). Since this will be my very first binocular purchase, I don't know what to expect. I already have a Manfrotto photographic tripod and head combo - which I hope will be satisfactory for use with my new toy. I specifically bought them for my xmas trip, so I am quite excited to use them in dark rural AL.
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pcad
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Under dark skies you'll be very happy with the 10.5 x 70's. When I used them at NEAF I was impressed by the generous eye relief. A very easy, comfortable pair of binoculars to use. Enjoy.
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Peter
Telescopes 25 - 318 mm
Binoculars 15 - 88 mm
Microscope 50x - 1000x
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F.Meiresonne
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Loc: Eeklo,Belgium
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Peter,
What happens with the 10.5x70 if you move your eye to close, do you experience black outs then?
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Freddy Meiresonne
Obsession 18 inch #1638
Orion Optics 8 inch F/4.5 -1/8 wave optics -Vixen GP-E
20x80 Helios Stellar Binos
15x70 TS Marine (=Obie Ultra)
10x60 Helios Quantum 4(= Obie Mariner)
10x50 Helios Nature sport plus
8x40 Helios Nature sport plus
Eyepieces in use :Pan 35,24,19, N13T6, Pentax 10 XW, N9T6, Ultrascopic 7.5, TV2, baader ortho 12.5 and 9 mm
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Erik D
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Freddy,
For mounted observation I rarely have a problem with binocular with generous eye eye relief. In fact, sometimes I prefer to keep my eyes just slightly back from the EP. Being able to see the full FOV without jamming the EPs against my eye socket feels more relaxing. I enjoy using my mounted 20X80 LW binos that way very much.
ERik D
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AlienFirstClass
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Didn't Orion once have a 15 x 70 Megaview available?
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Erik D
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Orion used to carry a 15X70 Little Giant/II. It was made in Japan. Very light weight ~ 2 lb 14 oz, priced over $250. Eye relief was very tight.(8 mm) Mechanical construction was typical Japanese: solid. IIRC, it had a 5 yr warranty. Orion also had 11X70 & 20X70s in that series. Since many Chinese made 15X70 are available today priced from $60 and up very few see the need for the Japanese 15X70 anymore.
http://www.cloudynights.com/item.php?item_id=224
ERik D
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