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John J
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Re: NEW TELRAD!!! new [Re: Jeronimo Cruz]
      #3432070 - 11/05/09 10:35 PM

It's like having an ugly baby, you still gotta love it! I got 4 ugly babies!

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Re: NEW TELRAD!!! new [Re: John J]
      #3432228 - 11/06/09 12:52 AM

It's SO big, and SO ugly, and SO efficient, that you can't help but NOT like it. If you want small, there's always the Rigel - if you can tolerate the adjustment knobs being on the wrong side.
My suggestion is leave the Telrad alone - it's a classic that does what it does very well.

John


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Re: NEW TELRAD!!! new [Re: 7331Peg]
      #3432335 - 11/06/09 05:09 AM

In the spare space, I keep spare batteries... whoa!

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Re: NEW TELRAD!!! new [Re: 7331Peg]
      #3432363 - 11/06/09 06:05 AM

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it's a classic that does what it does very well.






That pretty well describes our beloved Telrad.

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Vixen 80MF/AstroTech Voyager
Masuyama's 7.5, 15, 25W, 35mm,
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Re: NEW TELRAD!!! new [Re: csa/montana]
      #3432378 - 11/06/09 06:33 AM

Now if someone would combine the ruggedness of the Telrad with the compactness and blinking feature of the QuickFinder and add built-in dew prevention...

VOILA!!!

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Sarkikos
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Re: NEW TELRAD!!! new [Re: Gargoyle]
      #3432395 - 11/06/09 07:11 AM

I think I'll leave my Telrad alone and just attach it to my larger scopes. I'm not going to cut it down to size. Actually, when I use a Telrad under my red zone home skies, the 4 deg circle is pretty much a waste, so I might as well utilize the Rigel here. I don't see enough stars in the Telrad for star hopping. I just use the Telrad to get in the ball park, then I star hop with my 8x50 finder. No goto here.

Mike

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Zhumell 8" f6 Newt, Bosma 6" f12 MCT (NSO)
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Re: NEW TELRAD!!! new [Re: StarStuff1]
      #3432442 - 11/06/09 08:12 AM

Quote:

Now if someone would combine the ruggedness of the Telrad with the compactness and blinking feature of the QuickFinder and add built-in dew prevention...
VOILA!!!



I think a kind of "deluxe" version would be pretty much accepted! Why is nobody offering this? Patent issues?

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Re: NEW TELRAD!!! new [Re: Fireball]
      #3432543 - 11/06/09 09:25 AM

From what I understand the origional Telrad design was patented and the person who came up with it passed on prior to finallizing the design. The family then sold the patent with the caviet that no changes could be made to the design. For that reason we are stuck with a working prototype design and not a well refined design.
Just what I have heard so may not be correct.

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Bob Griffiths
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Re: NEW TELRAD!!! new [Re: Darenwh]
      #3432598 - 11/06/09 10:28 AM

Quote:

From what I understand the origional Telrad design was patented and the person who came up with it passed on prior to finallizing the design. The family then sold the patent with the caviet that no changes could be made to the design. For that reason we are stuck with a working prototype design and not a well refined design.
Just what I have heard so may not be correct.




Yep That was the impression I got too... and I love the looks of my Telrad...

I mean it looks CLUNKY ...

NOBODY in their right mind would add one to their Telescope UNLESS

It was EXTREMELY efficient ...
It was EXTREMELY easy to Use...
It was free ...

Guess 2 out of 3 is reason enough for many of us use a Telrad...

Bob G.

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Re: New Telrad! new [Re: hudson_yak]
      #3432676 - 11/06/09 11:07 AM

This web page shows some older versions.

Mike

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Re: New Telrad! new [Re: hudson_yak]
      #3432939 - 11/06/09 01:40 PM

You can add a self-contained internal dew heater. Mine works great!
Here are the directions:
http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=3387883&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=all&fpart=1&vc=1

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Re: NEW TELRAD!!! new [Re: Darenwh]
      #3432993 - 11/06/09 02:12 PM

Quote:

From what I understand the origional Telrad design was patented and the person who came up with it passed on prior to finallizing the design. The family then sold the patent with the caviet that no changes could be made to the design. For that reason we are stuck with a working prototype design and not a well refined design.
Just what I have heard so may not be correct.




Is there actually a patent on the Telrad? If there were it seems to me that the very similar Rigel would infringe on that patent.


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Re: NEW TELRAD!!! new [Re: sarastro]
      #3433081 - 11/06/09 02:48 PM

telrad makes a "blinker" circuit called a Pulser for $8.

personally, i dont have a need for it, but it is in their catalog.

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Re: NEW TELRAD!!! new [Re: dave b]
      #3433453 - 11/06/09 06:17 PM

What I did is to replace its standard red LED with a red LED IC blinker. It's a one for one exact replacement.

I now give the LED blinker away for free.

LED on

LED off


Clear Skies!

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Re: NEW TELRAD!!! new [Re: ccs_hello]
      #3433652 - 11/06/09 08:01 PM

I bought the Dew-Not heater for the Telrad. Works very well. No more dew on the Telrad window.

Mike

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Celestron 10" f5 Newt on 1stBase (DSO)
Zhumell 8" f6 Newt, Bosma 6" f12 MCT (NSO)
6" f5 Newt, 130ST, 4.5" f4.4 Ball w/GLP, ST80 w/Crayford (RFTs)
C4-R (NSO/DS)
90mm f13 MCT (Luna/DS)
SkyMaster 25x100, 15x70
Zhumell 20x80
Barska XWA 10x50, 8x40
OptiView LPR 10x50
Const View 2.3x40
BV-125C
CG5, 2 drv / CG4, 2 drv, wood legs, ScopeStuff saddle / CG3, 1 drv
SV AZ / 501HDV on Bogen 055XB / P+ on Oberwerk
QuikFinder, Telrad
Orion Dynamo Pro 12, Dew-Not
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Re: NEW TELRAD!!! new [Re: csa/montana]
      #3434278 - 11/07/09 08:37 AM Attachment (12 downloads)

Quote:

Quote:

it's a classic that does what it does very well.





That pretty well describes our beloved Telrad.




I'm with John and Carol. It's a classic and will always occupy a place of honor on my scopes.

Dew prevention? That's why they invented shirt sleeves.

Ron

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Re: NEW TELRAD!!! new [Re: RAKing]
      #3434352 - 11/07/09 09:57 AM

Now, that's a thing of beauty!! Oh, the scope isn't bad either!

Seriously, what a beautiful setup you have, Wow! And our beloved Telrad looks great on that fantastic scope.

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AstroTech 16" Dob (Thanks ASTRONOMICS!)
Vixen 80MF/AstroTech Voyager
Masuyama's 7.5, 15, 25W, 35mm,
Pentaxes; 5XW, 7XL, 10XW.
14mm Meade 4000 UWA
TV Panoptics; 22, 35

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Re: NEW TELRAD!!! new [Re: RAKing]
      #3434455 - 11/07/09 11:05 AM

You're in excellent company. I was recently at Lowell Observatory in Flagstaff, and the famed 24" Clark refractor there (33 feet in length) also has a Telrad.


Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

it's a classic that does what it does very well.





That pretty well describes our beloved Telrad.




I'm with John and Carol. It's a classic and will always occupy a place of honor on my scopes.

Dew prevention? That's why they invented shirt sleeves.

Ron




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Re: NEW TELRAD!!! [Re: Jeronimo Cruz]
      #3434612 - 11/07/09 12:25 PM

Quote:

Hi all,

Now that I have your attention, why has there never been an upgrade to the Telrad? I understand that *if it ain't broke don't fix it*




There have been a couple of variations on the theme, from Chinese clones to the Rigel Quikfinder. Some are pretty good, especially the Quikfinder, but none is as good as the original. The Only Enemy of Good Enough is More Better.

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Re: NEW TELRAD!!! new [Re: csa/montana]
      #3435397 - 11/07/09 09:37 PM

Quote:

Now, that's a thing of beauty!! Oh, the scope isn't bad either!

Seriously, what a beautiful setup you have, Wow! And our beloved Telrad looks great on that fantastic scope.




Thanks.

This rig is the best I've had for simply "getting out of the way" and letting me enjoy the stars. And the Telrad has been my finder of choice since I came back to the hobby. I think it looks pretty good sitting up there.

Thanks again,

Ron

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