Jeff B
professor emeritus
Reged: 12/30/06
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I too would like to know how well the AP1200 handles the 11" F15 as I'm casting around for an upgrade from the old Cave for my 11" F12. Parallax makes some very interesting big mounts as well.
Jeff
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LivingNDixie
Lord of Ferrets
Reged: 04/23/03
Posts: 16255
Loc: Hoover, AL
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Jim:
I'm with you except that I am looking further South.
I have spent most of the summer this year looking at land from San Antonio to Tucson, from the border to Flagstaff.
I have not found the right property yet but I'm looking. If snow is a regular occouring event count me out! 
Try the Junction TX area. Not quite in the desert-like area, and also not as much wind. Plenty of small trees, very few people. It's where I'm going someday. Hill country of Texas, and within a relatively short driving distance to San Antonio (about 100 miles). Beautiful area, nice people, not many lights, very dark sky. Why I chose it. There's a small river, and plenty of game animals.
I would love to move to the Alpine area of TX, but it is so far out from anything. But land is cheap 
I am eyeing a 5in f/12.
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Preston
Celestron 11" Nexstar GPS XLT
Tak FS 78
Tak Teegul-Lapides
Lunt LS60T/Ha 60mm f/8.33
Vixen Porta Mount
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jayscheuerle
Post Laureate
Reged: 01/16/06
Posts: 4076
Loc: S. Philadelphia, PA
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In order to even consider wanting one of these, I'd need to live somewhere else, but they certainly look cool and I'd take one for that reason alone. That's why I hang onto my red-tube Edmund 8" f/5 on the fork mount. HOT!! - j
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Fight indignorance!
The Green Goblin - 12" of dobsonian excellence!
The PortaBowl-a $100 4.5" f/8 ball-scope YOU can build!
Eero2-a 6" f/5 ball-scope you probably can't. 
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Ziggy943
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 08/11/06
Posts: 1524
Loc: Utah
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It is hard to put together an event like the 5" shootout isn't it. I guess I don't need to tell you guys.
Most of our best gatherings have been accidental but both my 6"f/12 with Siegfrieds 6" f/17.5 and the 8" D&G with the 9" Clark were planned. Still, that is only two people in the planning. When the other big lenses showed up that was just a bonus.
Yes, but... these wern't 'shoot outs', they were photo ops. I love the pictures of these beauties set up side by side. In fact I have some up here at work. Yep, there is Steve putting up the 8" ...  
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May your skies always be clear,
Ziggy
www.slas.us
4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone
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Ziggy943
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 08/11/06
Posts: 1524
Loc: Utah
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and in reference to the original question:
When I retire I would love to have an 11" f/18!
Scott, you almost have it right. A 12" F/18, now there's the ticket of a lifetime.
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May your skies always be clear,
Ziggy
www.slas.us
4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone
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Bill Cowles
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 04/16/06
Posts: 1045
Loc: Utah
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This D&G is really long, and in it's observatory was very hard to photograph. I was using a 10mm lens and against the wall and still couldn't capture everything. Pictured are Steve, Sig., and the owner Dave.
Bill
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Lunt LS60TS50DS/B1200/FT (on order)
TV Gensis/Solarmax 60 filter
PST DS/Herschel Wedge/C4-R
C6-R /Atlas Goto/Moonlite CF2
12" LightBridge/Round Table
MCHP/8" Orion OTA/Ultima 2000
10" Discovery /Celestron SE-4
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rwiederrich
Goldfinger
Reged: 11/17/05
Posts: 8334
Loc: Bremerton Washington
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This D&G is really long, and in it's observatory was very hard to photograph. I was using a 10mm lens and against the wall and still couldn't capture everything. Pictured are Steve, Sig., and the owner Dave.
Bill
Still..that Piertec doesn't look tall enough or big enough to handle the 11".
My 10"f/15 needs oodles of lift to get the EP at a nice standing hight.
Great scope for sure. Was the objective in the scope?
Rob
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www.goldmtobservingcenter.com
A great place for amateur astronomers, and ATM's to come and enjoy their hobby.
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/HomemadeRefractorTelescopes/ My homemade refractor group.
www.vimeo.com/6014031
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bluestar
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 11/06/05
Posts: 1123
Loc: Maryland Eastern Shore
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If I recall correctly you like standing for zenith observing. You need nowhere that much lift for seated (and NO laying) zenith viewing.
Pat via netbook on the road in West Virginia
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D&G refractors 5" f/12 & f/15; 6" f/15; 8" f/12...
Royce Dall-Kirkham Cass 10" f/20
Epoch Instruments Parsec/12, Astro-Physics 1200 DA, AP800 HDA mounts...
Previous telescopes A-Z...Astro-Physics to Zeiss
Old school @ BlueStar Observatory...this is how we do it.
D&G Optical Telescope Users Group ...D&G/long focus Yahoo refractor Group...back up and running
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bluestar
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 11/06/05
Posts: 1123
Loc: Maryland Eastern Shore
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Thanks Steve and Zig...Dave PM'd me; I'll chat w/him in more detail upon my return to Md.
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D&G refractors 5" f/12 & f/15; 6" f/15; 8" f/12...
Royce Dall-Kirkham Cass 10" f/20
Epoch Instruments Parsec/12, Astro-Physics 1200 DA, AP800 HDA mounts...
Previous telescopes A-Z...Astro-Physics to Zeiss
Old school @ BlueStar Observatory...this is how we do it.
D&G Optical Telescope Users Group ...D&G/long focus Yahoo refractor Group...back up and running
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Ziggy943
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 08/11/06
Posts: 1524
Loc: Utah
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Did you notice all the junk standing around in the observatory. Dave really needs to clean it out. He's got Takahashis, Zeiss, Telelues just cluttering up the observatory. 
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May your skies always be clear,
Ziggy
www.slas.us
4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone
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bluestar
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 11/06/05
Posts: 1123
Loc: Maryland Eastern Shore
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Finderscope collector. 
Pat @ remote lakeside in WVa cleaning fish slime and mud off the keybarddd
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D&G refractors 5" f/12 & f/15; 6" f/15; 8" f/12...
Royce Dall-Kirkham Cass 10" f/20
Epoch Instruments Parsec/12, Astro-Physics 1200 DA, AP800 HDA mounts...
Previous telescopes A-Z...Astro-Physics to Zeiss
Old school @ BlueStar Observatory...this is how we do it.
D&G Optical Telescope Users Group ...D&G/long focus Yahoo refractor Group...back up and running
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Bill Cowles
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 04/16/06
Posts: 1045
Loc: Utah
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Yes, Dave has a few finder scopes for his D&G.
Bill
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Lunt LS60TS50DS/B1200/FT (on order)
TV Gensis/Solarmax 60 filter
PST DS/Herschel Wedge/C4-R
C6-R /Atlas Goto/Moonlite CF2
12" LightBridge/Round Table
MCHP/8" Orion OTA/Ultima 2000
10" Discovery /Celestron SE-4
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bluestar
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 11/06/05
Posts: 1123
Loc: Maryland Eastern Shore
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That zeiss telementor/mount collecting dust, in addition to being woefully lacking in aperture, is a prime candidate to martyr itself for additional operating space for the big glass. Being the kind and sacrificing stargazing I am, I'll gladly step forward and be willing to relieve Dave of this excess refractor glass clogging his observatory 
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D&G refractors 5" f/12 & f/15; 6" f/15; 8" f/12...
Royce Dall-Kirkham Cass 10" f/20
Epoch Instruments Parsec/12, Astro-Physics 1200 DA, AP800 HDA mounts...
Previous telescopes A-Z...Astro-Physics to Zeiss
Old school @ BlueStar Observatory...this is how we do it.
D&G Optical Telescope Users Group ...D&G/long focus Yahoo refractor Group...back up and running
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Steve Fisher
"Curmudgeon in Training"
Reged: 08/12/06
Posts: 1736
Loc: Utah
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That zeiss telementor/mount collecting dust, in addition to being woefully lacking in aperture, is a prime candidate to martyr itself for additional operating space for the big glass. Being the kind and sacrificing stargazing I am, I'll gladly step forward and be willing to relieve Dave of this excess refractor glass clogging his observatory
Funny you would pick that one. All that great equipment and that is the one that caught Siegfrieds eye also. I guess great minds do think alike.
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Steve
8" f/12 D&G Achromat Refractor Delivered 08/27/09
6" D&G f/12 Achromat Refractor
66mm f/6.1 William Optics Petzval
6" f/8 Celestron Starhopper
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"Never try to teach a pig to sing, It wastes your time and it annoys the pig". (Robert Heinlein)
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Bill Cowles
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 04/16/06
Posts: 1045
Loc: Utah
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That is the same thing I was wondering. It's not that big in the picture, must know his refractors. I remember when Sig spotted this little scope, where can I get one, love at first sight.
Bill 
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Lunt LS60TS50DS/B1200/FT (on order)
TV Gensis/Solarmax 60 filter
PST DS/Herschel Wedge/C4-R
C6-R /Atlas Goto/Moonlite CF2
12" LightBridge/Round Table
MCHP/8" Orion OTA/Ultima 2000
10" Discovery /Celestron SE-4
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Steve Fisher
"Curmudgeon in Training"
Reged: 08/12/06
Posts: 1736
Loc: Utah
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I went out last night with the 8". I forgot the rings I use to mount my finders and my Hargraves strut. It was very frustrating but I was able to mount the Rigel finder with velcro. Using this setup without the strut proves it is undermounted on the CGE.
Turned out to be a pretty good night. What you can't see in the picture is the huge smile on my face.
I love this telescope.
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Steve
8" f/12 D&G Achromat Refractor Delivered 08/27/09
6" D&G f/12 Achromat Refractor
66mm f/6.1 William Optics Petzval
6" f/8 Celestron Starhopper
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"Never try to teach a pig to sing, It wastes your time and it annoys the pig". (Robert Heinlein)
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mikey cee
Post Laureate
Reged: 01/18/07
Posts: 3531
Loc: bellevue ne.
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Boy Steve.....Am I dang glad you didn't forget the 8" and bring everything else instead.  Mike
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7x35 and 10x50 sears tower binocs, 3" f/10 edmunds reflector, 2.4" f/11.7 manon refractor, 6" f/8 jaegers refractor, "The 8 Ball" 8" f/13.3 brandt refractor, 3" f/15.8 sans&streiffe refractor, 3.1" f/15 selsi refractor(towa 339), 2.4" f/15 sears refractor, selsi 30x30mm spyglass, criterion 5-draw 25x45x75x spyglass(1957), 4.25" f/14.8 tasco 20te.
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Steve Fisher
"Curmudgeon in Training"
Reged: 08/12/06
Posts: 1736
Loc: Utah
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Boy Steve.....Am I dang glad you didn't forget the 8" and bring everything else instead. Mike
Mike:
As I look back at the last 60 1/2 years including living through the 60's and 70's I'm lucky that the situation you describe hasn't happened yet.
Do you want to see a big smile?
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Steve
8" f/12 D&G Achromat Refractor Delivered 08/27/09
6" D&G f/12 Achromat Refractor
66mm f/6.1 William Optics Petzval
6" f/8 Celestron Starhopper
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"Never try to teach a pig to sing, It wastes your time and it annoys the pig". (Robert Heinlein)
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wells_ned
super member
Reged: 11/02/09
Posts: 102
Loc: Simi Valley, CA.
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Long focus nut like you. Great phots, great collection.
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N. Wells
1980 Coulter Odyssey Compact 10.1 f/4.5 Dobsonian
2" 32mm eyepiece (Maker unknown)
32mm, 24mm orthos Vernon
2x barlow (Maker unknown)
Kufeld Telrad
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Ziggy943
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 08/11/06
Posts: 1524
Loc: Utah
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That zeiss telementor/mount collecting dust, in addition to being woefully lacking in aperture, is a prime candidate to martyr itself for additional operating space for the big glass. Being the kind and sacrificing stargazing I am, I'll gladly step forward and be willing to relieve Dave of this excess refractor glass clogging his observatory
Funny you would pick that one. All that great equipment and that is the one that caught Siegfrieds eye also. I guess great minds do think alike.
You're gonna have to get in at the back of the line
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May your skies always be clear,
Ziggy
www.slas.us
4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone
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