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joelimite
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Reged: 09/01/08
Posts: 235
Loc: Fayetteville, AR
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I just noticed that Astronomics is now listing two new 100 degree eyepieces from TMB, a 16mm and a 9mm. Has anyone heard anything about these? They're listed for $300. It looks like the 100 degree market is beginning to heat up.
9mm TMB 100
16mm TMB 100
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hfjacinto
Almost got me
Reged: 01/12/09
Posts: 2091
Loc: Union,NJ
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Zhummel (telescopes.com) listed them first at $249, but they are up to $279. They are the same, so buy by price.
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C9.25 ASGT 9*50 MM Finder,FT Focuser & 2" Diagonal
Meade LXD 75 6 Inch SNT w 9*50 MM Finder
5,6,9,14.5 MM Zhummel Planetary EPs
13,17,21,24,31,36 MM Baader Hyperion
6.7,8.8 MM Meade UWA & 11 MM Nagler T6
Planetary, OIII and Narrowband Filters
Thousand Oaks Dew Control w Kendrick Heaters
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Astronomics
Vendor if you must, AKA The Mighty Kong.
Reged: 06/07/04
Posts: 3072
Loc: Right Here
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I am going to step out of my shell here.
You may buy by price or help support the company that brings the community CN and helps with growing the hobby of astronomy, not just to line their pockets with one of the 156 stores they have online.
Not trying to be prickly, but the stores that have lifted this industry on their shoulders for decades, Astronomics (US), OPT, Anacortes, High Point, etc... I would hope would get consideration if the prices are close over the venture capitalists that have changed ownership three times in the last seven years.
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Michael Bieler
Father and Husband
Owner
www.astronomics.com
www.astronomytechnologies.com
www.cloudynights.com
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joelimite
sage
Reged: 09/01/08
Posts: 235
Loc: Fayetteville, AR
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Alright, I feel like an idiot. I just noticed that a thread about these eyepieces already exists:
Low cost version 100 degree AFOV
Sorry for starting a new thread. Feel free to lock this one.
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Orion XT8 Dob w/ Moonlite 2-speed Crayford focuser, Vixen A80MF w/ GSO 2-speed Crayford and Porta Mount
32mm Televue Plossl, 31mm Hyperion Aspheric, 24mm Meade SWA, 17,13,8mm Hyperions, 6,5,4mm TMB Planetary, 5mm Baader Genuine Ortho
Garrett Optical 20x80 UL Binoculars, Nikon Action Extreme 10x50 Binoculars
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hfjacinto
Almost got me
Reged: 01/12/09
Posts: 2091
Loc: Union,NJ
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Mike,
I personally have purchased from you (when I say you I mean you at Neaf), OPT, HighPoint,Telescopes.com and several others and I agree that for known brands (Televue, Orion, Celestron, etc) I would rather purchase from established companies but for something like this EP which we know nothing about (quality or view wise), I would rather pay the least amount so that if the product doesn't meet my expectations it is not a big loss.
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C9.25 ASGT 9*50 MM Finder,FT Focuser & 2" Diagonal
Meade LXD 75 6 Inch SNT w 9*50 MM Finder
5,6,9,14.5 MM Zhummel Planetary EPs
13,17,21,24,31,36 MM Baader Hyperion
6.7,8.8 MM Meade UWA & 11 MM Nagler T6
Planetary, OIII and Narrowband Filters
Thousand Oaks Dew Control w Kendrick Heaters
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starrancher
professor emeritus
Reged: 06/09/09
Posts: 611
Loc: Northern Arizona
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Quote:
I am going to step out of my shell here.
You may buy by price or help support the company that brings the community CN and helps with growing the hobby of astronomy, not just to line their pockets with one of the 156 stores they have online.
Not trying to be prickly, but the stores that have lifted this industry on their shoulders for decades, Astronomics (US), OPT, Anacortes, High Point, etc... I would hope would get consideration if the prices are close over the venture capitalists that have changed ownership three times in the last seven years.
And hey , you gotta figure too , for $20.00 more the thing will say TMB on it ! .......Although Zhumell is indeed making a name for itself , I think , if I'm spending $280.00 on an ocular , I'm gonna kick down an extra 20 for one that says TMB on it !
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LXD75 SN8
Series 4000 Plossls
Misc. other stuff
Fort Rock , Az .
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rmollise
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Quote:
Not trying to be prickly, but the stores that have lifted this industry on their shoulders for decades, Astronomics (US), OPT, Anacortes, High Point, etc... I would hope would get consideration if the prices are close over the venture capitalists that have changed ownership three times in the last seven years.
Hear, hear.
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Uncle Rod
Rod's New Book:
Choosing and Using a New CAT
Available now!
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Sky Captain
Metal Whisperer
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I think , if I'm spending $280.00 on an ocular , I'm gonna kick down an extra 20 for one that says TMB on it !
Yes, I agree! 
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Equipment Overload!
Kerry
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Darenwh
Pooh-Bah
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Posts: 1224
Loc: Covington, GA
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Don't forget to mention you are a CN member and astronomics will give you a discount. It will likely make the price the same or less.
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Daren
Covington, GA
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starrancher
professor emeritus
Reged: 06/09/09
Posts: 611
Loc: Northern Arizona
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Don't forget to mention you are a CN member and astronomics will give you a discount. It will likely make the price the same or less.
Yeah ! ...That's right ! .....Shooot ! ...I forgot all about that ! It's a great deal after all ! The initial reports coming in seem to be promising on these .
Now who's got some cash to loan me ?
I'll be glad to pay you Tuesday , for an ocular today !
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LXD75 AR5
LXD75 SN8
Series 4000 Plossls
Misc. other stuff
Fort Rock , Az .
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7331Peg
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Quote:
I am going to step out of my shell here.
You may buy by price or help support the company that brings the community CN and helps with growing the hobby of astronomy, not just to line their pockets with one of the 156 stores they have online.
Not trying to be prickly, but the stores that have lifted this industry on their shoulders for decades, Astronomics (US), OPT, Anacortes, High Point, etc... I would hope would get consideration if the prices are close over the venture capitalists that have changed ownership three times in the last seven years.
I'm 200% in agreement, and I don't think it could be said better or more to the point. This hobby wouldn't be what it is without the companies mentioned.
Competition isn't competition when prices are cut just to try to drive others out of business in order to make a quick buck and then repeat the process in another field. In the long run, as the number of competitors declines, it leads to less competition, poorer quality, and frequently, higher prices, as well as a lack of concern for the customer.
John
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nyc_nurse
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Reged: 07/29/09
Posts: 254
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I'm all for supporting local family owned businesses, especially those that have supported a field through good times and bad. However, I've always felt this get's tricky in practice. Why stop at stores? Couldn't one make an argument that the likes of Televue, TMB, AP and other family owned business that have spent a vast amount of resources innovating and creating original/better designs warrant more loyalty than the countless mass marketers that have popped up in the last few years? I'm not saying one is better than the other but merely saying that there's more than one way to support this hobby - innovative consistent production and sales by the market leaders vs the second and third tier manufactures and distributors who's support of the hobby comes in the form of letting more people pursue their dreams of owning a great product at a competitive price. Some may say a $20 price difference is insignificant but that's for that person, it might be a justifiable reason for someone else to go buy from a "corporate" business.
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Sam P.
www.agirlandaguy.blogspot.com
Pentax 7X50
TV-102 APO w/ (Starbeam - on backorder  )
Ash Gibraltar w/ SkyTour DSC
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Pentax XW10, XW14
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Astronomics
Vendor if you must, AKA The Mighty Kong.
Reged: 06/07/04
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But $20 as compared to $2000 is fairly significant no matter how you slice it.
You can support the innovators just the same from purchasing from the vendors that have been around for years. Problems solved.
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Michael Bieler
Father and Husband
Owner
www.astronomics.com
www.astronomytechnologies.com
www.cloudynights.com
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ngc2289
Carpal Tunnel
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Loc: SouthTexas
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Actually the difference in price is only $5.05 after 5% rebate! So if I buy one of these I will go with Astronomics!! 
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nyc_nurse
sage
Reged: 07/29/09
Posts: 254
Loc: nyc
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You can support the innovators just the same from purchasing from the vendors that have been around for years. Problems solved.
Can't argue that point. As an aside I first was a member of CN around 2002/03 when it was independent. Rejoined recently and wasn't surprised to find out that it was bought out. What was surprising was that besides growing exponentially I couldn't tell overtly that it was owned by a major distributor. Thanks a lot Mike for keeping this place in line with the original spirit. Hat's off to you and I'll definitely keep your business in mind for my next purchase.
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Sam P.
www.agirlandaguy.blogspot.com
Pentax 7X50
TV-102 APO w/ (Starbeam - on backorder )
Ash Gibraltar w/ SkyTour DSC
NZ3-6, N9T6, N13T6
TV 20 Plossl
Pan 24, 35
Pentax XW10, XW14
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Johndob
super member
Reged: 12/22/08
Posts: 146
Loc: Newport Beach,Ca
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Some people cant wait and usually buy from whoever can get it to your door before the clouds arrive.
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Zhumell 10" Dob (Mods)
ETX-125PE UHTC
ETX-90AT
6"f/5 Newtonian
Classic 60x910
Ortho 6-7mm UO or.4mm
Meade 3000 5mm
Zhumell 2" ED Barlow
Zhumell 2" 32mm
UO. 2" 30mm 
GSO 2" 26mm
GSO 40mm CPL
Hyperion 8,13,17,21&FTR
Zhumell 8-24 Zoom
ED 3.8mm,7.5mm
Owl SP4,10,15
Zhumell EP&filter set 1"1/4
Baader 2" Neodymium/IR-cut,CelestronUHC/LPR
Zhumell OIII,UHC,SkyGlow,Polarizer
Zhumell 20x80 Giant&
10x50 plus 3 More Bino's
Brunton Echo Monocular
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Doug76
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Being a supporter of capitalism, I have no problem with venture capitalists. But I would support Astronomics in this. They are always there when I need something, and have never done me wrong. And besides, what's $20 among friends?
I support Mike and the gang, and hope they are around to my last day buying equipment.
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Doug
Truckstop Astronomer
The Universe, the light of God, in all it's majesty
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k5apl
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Loc: Arkansas
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I'm with you Doug.
Astronomics has always treated me fairly in the past, and I recommend them to all my newbie astronomy friends.
Wes
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Doug76
Postmaster
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Loc: SE Louisiana, future Texan
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As do I.
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7331Peg
professor emeritus
Reged: 09/01/08
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Loc: North coast of Oregon
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Quote:
I'm all for supporting local family owned businesses, especially those that have supported a field through good times and bad. However, I've always felt this get's tricky in practice. Why stop at stores? Couldn't one make an argument that the likes of Televue, TMB, AP and other family owned business that have spent a vast amount of resources innovating and creating original/better designs warrant more loyalty than the countless mass marketers that have popped up in the last few years?
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Yes, you could certainly make that argument, and I'm not opposed at all to it.
Of course, not everyone can afford those manufacturer's products, so there is definitely a place for the more general mass market type product.
But that takes you back to who you buy them from, and that takes us back to my earlier point - this hobby is far better served by staying with the established dealers as opposed to the price-cutting artists.
John
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