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russell23
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82A filter and open clusters? new
      #3434965 - 11/07/09 04:38 PM

The last few times I've observed I've tried observing open clusters with an 82A filter (73% transmission). Since open clusters tend to be dominated by younger blue stars this seems to improve the sharpness and contrast of the image with my 120mm f/8.3 achromat.

Anybody else try this?

Dave


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joelimite
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Re: 82A filter and open clusters? new [Re: russell23]
      #3435238 - 11/07/09 07:41 PM

Never tried, Dave, but I'll give it a shot. I just got an 82A filter and have been itching to try it out on something besides the moon (the seeing here has been too terrible lately for serious planetary observation).

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Re: 82A filter and open clusters? new [Re: joelimite]
      #3435314 - 11/07/09 08:37 PM

Not that I have yet tried this myself , but I have heard that the light blue filter can help in splitting close doubles .
Now I will give this , open clusters & maybe even globs for that matter a try .

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russell23
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Re: 82A filter and open clusters? new [Re: starrancher]
      #3435349 - 11/07/09 09:01 PM

I played around with it some more tonight before overcast conditions rolled i . I'm using it with 10mm and 20mm Pentax XW's in the 120mm f/8.3 achromat.

There is some evidence of the loss of light, but not dramatically so. I think the lost light is made up for by an increase in sharpness and contrast.

I'm hoping that later tonight the skies will clear back up so I can give it a more thorough test. I'll be anxious to hear what you guys think.

Dave


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Dakota Tobias
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Re: 82A filter and open clusters? [Re: joelimite]
      #3435354 - 11/07/09 09:05 PM

I've had great success using it on Jupiter... I just was using it last night, as a matter of fact, during a shadow transit with a 7mm Pentax XL (225x)...I'll have to try an OC... was there any particular one that especially "popped"?

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Re: 82A filter and open clusters? new [Re: russell23]
      #3435716 - 11/08/09 01:31 AM

Quote:

The last few times I've observed I've tried observing open clusters with an 82A filter (73% transmission). Since open clusters tend to be dominated by younger blue stars this seems to improve the sharpness and contrast of the image with my 120mm f/8.3 achromat.

Anybody else try this?

Dave




I tend to use the Lumicon Deep-sky filter, as it has higher transmission characteristics (even makes a halfway decent light blue filter for revealing the clouds on Mars). Clear skies to you.

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helpwanted
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Re: 82A filter and open clusters? new [Re: David Knisely]
      #3435938 - 11/08/09 08:22 AM

i have heard of using an 82a on galaxies, but haven't tried... i need to remember and give this a try!

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russell23
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Re: 82A filter and open clusters? new [Re: Dakota Tobias]
      #3441174 - 11/10/09 10:44 PM

Quote:

I've had great success using it on Jupiter... I just was using it last night, as a matter of fact, during a shadow transit with a 7mm Pentax XL (225x)...I'll have to try an OC... was there any particular one that especially "popped"?




NGC 6819 is one cluster in particular that I felt showed noticeably improved detail with the 82A. But in general with my achro I feel that the images are sharper with this filter. I also noticed that when the moon is washing out the sky clusters seem significantly improved with the filter.


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Sarkikos
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Re: 82A filter and open clusters? new [Re: helpwanted]
      #3442274 - 11/11/09 02:54 PM

helpwanted,

Quote:

i have heard of using an 82a on galaxies, but haven't tried... i need to remember and give this a try!




I've used 82A on two bright galaxies, M31 and M51. It helped somewhat to improve contrast, but it is a very subtle effect. In other words, it's hardly worth the effort. But give it a try. YMMV. You might be better off increasing the magnification a little, maybe try a zoom eyepiece to dial in the right amount of contrast by varying the magnification.

Mike

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