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meigh
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Reged: 11/21/09
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Loc: Western PA
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New to the forum. Posted on the beginner's forum and got some great suggestions on a new scope - 10"DOB. It has the 2" Craford focuser so I want to get some appropriate eps. Here is what I have now - all 1 1/4:
University Optics 26mm wide view Plossel Meade 20 mm Wide Angle U.O. Konig 16mm U.O. Ortho 10.2 mm Celestron Ortho 4 mm U.O. 8.4-21 mm zoom U.O. 2x Barlow I would like to purchase an EP or two for DSOs, and possibly two for planetary viewing. As I mentioned in the Beginner's Forum, I am getting back into the game after quite a few years. Any suggestions would be helpful.
-------------------- Scopes: Orion XT10i
Stellarvue 102ED
8" Homemade Reflector OTA only -(work in progress)
Binoculars: Unitron 11 x 80 with tripod
EPs: 31mm Baader, 22mm Vixen LVW, 13mm Baader, 9mm Nagler, 6mm Radian (still building collection)
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Darenwh
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Loc: Covington, GA
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For planetary viewing a 2" eyepiece will not give you any real optical advantage. The 2" format only makes a difference in the image if the image being created by the eyepeice is too large for the 1.25" format. Think of it this way, if a 1.25" eyepiece will give a maximum true field of view of 1.5 degrees in your scope then any eyepiece that gives a true field of view smaller than 1.5 degrees will not benefit optically from being made in a 2" format. With eyepieces that have a wider true field of view, greater than 1.5 degrees, then you will benefit from using a 2" focuser.
Now, there are a few benefits to 2" eyepieces, however it has nothing to do with the view.
First, for really heavy eyepieces the 2" format provides a better grip on the eyepiece making it less likely the heavy eyepieces (or bino viewers, or other heavy accessories) will fall out.
Second, by using 2" accessories, such as barlows, you can use them with any of your eyepieces, negating the need to own or change out to the other sizes.
Third, by getting a 2" to 1.25" adapter that has filter screws you can use 2" filters for all your eyepieces negating the need to buy both 2" and 1.25" filters.
And last, by getting 2" eyepieces only you don't need to use the adapter at all which some people find to be a hassle.
If you were going to go all 2" then perhaps the best way to do so would be to get the Baader Hyperion Zoom to cover you from 24mm - 8mm's. It comes with a 2" barrel extension so you can use it directly in a 2" focuser and would cover quite a bit of eyepiece realestate in a single eyepiece. It is also an excellent eyepiece so should make you quite happy.
A 2" barlow will give you the ability to cover all the way up to 4mm FL with the above eyepiece. The GSO version is reported to be excellent. This should get you the very highest magnification you will likely want to use in that scope.
For wide angle above that there are numerous very good options depending on your budget. You can go as expensive as a 21mm Ethos, some of the larger Naglers, Pentax, Meade UWA, Celestron Axiom LX, Explore Scientific 100 degree series or 82 degree series, Meade SWA's, Badder Hyperion Aspherics, Sieberts, etc... It is very hard to recommend anything with out budget information (how much are you willing to spend) and the Focal Ratio of the new scope. Is the new scope an F4.5, F5, F6? Give us more information and we will be able to give you some good recommendations.
-------------------- Daren
Covington, GA
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meigh
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Reged: 11/21/09
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Loc: Western PA
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The DOB will have a FL of 1200mm and f/4.7. Probably want to limit myself to $200.00 and below per EP. Thanks for the information.
-------------------- Scopes: Orion XT10i
Stellarvue 102ED
8" Homemade Reflector OTA only -(work in progress)
Binoculars: Unitron 11 x 80 with tripod
EPs: 31mm Baader, 22mm Vixen LVW, 13mm Baader, 9mm Nagler, 6mm Radian (still building collection)
Edited by meigh (11/24/09 12:23 PM)
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jrbarnett
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Reged: 02/28/06
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Loc: Petaluma, CA
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It's a little bit of a "good news, bad news" story.
I'll preface my remarks by saying that I have many of the eyepieces you list and also have a 10" f/4.7 Dob (in addition to a few other scopes).
Let's start with the bad news. None of the eyepieces you list are optimal for an f/4.7 Dob. They will be nice on-axis (for viewing planets) but all of them will show astigmatism at the edge of the field of view. By and large your existing collection features designs optimized for the slower scopes of yesteryear. They are all fine eyepieces, but they will provide good views only near the center of the field of view when used in your Dob.
Now for the good news. 2" eyepieces have little value other than allowing you to achieve wider true fields of view than a 1.25" barrel will allow. I would purchase a 2" eyepiece only if you want a lower power, wider true field of view than any of the 1.25" eyepieces in your set can provide.
It used to be that you had to spend "big bucks" on a premium ultra-wide 2" eyepiece to get a well-corrected field without astigmatic edges. More good news is that the price of such views has been dropping due to lower cost alternatives to the loftily-priced 2" Naglers.
In the sub-$200 range, I use a 2" 31mm Baader Hyperion Aspheric with my 10" Dob. It is not quite as well corrected at the edge of the field of view as a 31mm Nagler Type 5 or 27mm Panoptic, but it is also only a fraction of the price of either of those, and does better in terms of correction than hoary old designs like Orthsocopics, Konigs and Plossls.
Regards,
Jim
-------------------- "I do not always observe with low dispersion glass doublets, but when I do, I prefer Televue. Stay focused, my friends!"
- The Most Interesting Astronomer in the Universe
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