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Re: Burnham's Celestial Handbook - Digital new [Re: Daniel Mounsey]
      #4333680 - 01/23/11 06:48 AM

I HIGHLY doubt that an ebook edition exists. Exactly where did you try to download it from? Please provide the link.

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Re: Burnham's Celestial Handbook - Digital new [Re: burb scope]
      #4335213 - 01/23/11 07:12 PM

Thanks. Maybe it's because this sight isn't ebooks but something like ebooks?

Edited by desertstars (01/24/11 09:20 AM)


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Re: Burnham's Celestial Handbook - Digital new [Re: Daniel Mounsey]
      #4335794 - 01/23/11 11:44 PM

The previous poster is correct in saying that a non-searchable PDF of the handbook is floating around on the net. It's a rar archive that needs unpacking, which is why the previous poster couldn't read it. Unrar utilities are common and free, don't let anyone sucker you into paying for one.

The way I see it if you own a print copy, which I do, then it's fine to download this. It is, of course, a bootleg.


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Re: Burnham's Celestial Handbook - Digital new [Re: Daniel Mounsey]
      #4335805 - 01/23/11 11:53 PM

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Thanks. Maybe it's because this sight isn't ebooks but something like ebooks?





Whoa! Somebody has already done a good scan of Burnham's into a PDF document. Wasn't this thread about the lack of such a product?

Since I'm a bit uncertain about legality, I'm going to let the moderators decide if they want to delete my post. I went to the site that Daniel mentioned, and clicked on the "Download from Hotfile" link, which brings you to the three volumes in .rar archive format. Each volume is about 100 Mb, and they take a long time to download from that site. I got a trial version of WinRAR, which extracted the PDF.

The Hotfile site requires you to wait 30 minutes between downloads in an attempt to get you to upgrade to premium, with high-speed downloads.

So I'm currently flipping through a decently scanned Volume 1. Quite frankly, I don't feel any shame about the free download, but you can let your conscience be your guide.

Tom

Edited by desertstars (01/24/11 09:22 AM)


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Re: Burnham's Celestial Handbook - Digital new [Re: Tom Polakis]
      #4335894 - 01/24/11 01:39 AM

Thank you gentleman,
I waited 3 hours to download Vol one. I was not aware that it may be an unofficial copy. The internet connection from my current location is a bit slow unfortunately. I will try to use a software link provided after the install to open one from an official site. Thanks again.


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Re: Burnham's Celestial Handbook - Digital new [Re: Daniel Mounsey]
      #4336054 - 01/24/11 05:59 AM

Sorry to have doubted you Dan.

I support the idea of having a digital "backup copy" of material that you have legally purchased, but Dover owns the rights to the material and they won't get a dime from any shady download site.
If you download and use the digital version then I would suggest that you pick up a used set of the books.


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Re: Burnham's Celestial Handbook - Digital new [Re: burb scope]
      #4336224 - 01/24/11 09:03 AM

Granted, Dover won't get a dime out of your used purchase either, but you will be on more stable legal ground.

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Re: Burnham's Celestial Handbook - Digital new [Re: burb scope]
      #4336255 - 01/24/11 09:24 AM

That site has almost certainly pirated the books, so I've removed the link until I hear back from Dover regarding its legitimacy. If the downloads exist with the permission of the publisher, I'll restore the link.

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Re: Burnham's Celestial Handbook - Digital new [Re: desertstars]
      #4337784 - 01/24/11 08:15 PM

Tom,
Thank you for removing it.


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Re: Burnham's Celestial Handbook - Digital new [Re: Daniel Mounsey]
      #4337924 - 01/24/11 09:10 PM



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Re: Burnham's Celestial Handbook - Digital new [Re: Spaced]
      #4338481 - 01/25/11 03:32 AM Attachment (43 downloads)

Well this is what it looks like on the original Kindle DX right next to the hard copy; bear in mind photo is taken indoor at night, high ISO, image noise - in reality it's actually quite good. (the new DX is suppose to have better screen contrast, fwiw)

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Re: Burnham's Celestial Handbook - Digital new [Re: core]
      #4338482 - 01/25/11 03:34 AM Attachment (43 downloads)

Close up of paper copy.

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Re: Burnham's Celestial Handbook - Digital new [Re: core]
      #4338484 - 01/25/11 03:37 AM Attachment (42 downloads)

And close up of DX screen (fyi both close up are on the same image scale); I've got several copies of the BCH, and would pounce on the chance to buy a text-searchable ebook version in an instant. I'll try and take another comparison pic on other e-readers later on.

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Re: Burnham's Celestial Handbook - Digital new [Re: core]
      #4338604 - 01/25/11 07:05 AM

Peter,
Thanks for sharing this. It's the only page I can read from BCH since I wont be able to see a copy for another 2 weeks. Quality looks fine.


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Re: Burnham's Celestial Handbook - Digital new [Re: mtnmedic]
      #4339626 - 01/25/11 03:56 PM

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2) No, I haven't heard anything back from Dover's Legal and Permissions Department for a while. They said they were considering my request and the points I made for going forward with the project.




in these situations a phone conversation is often the best step. put a human wrapper around it. but unless you provided them with a very explicit proposal with much of the cost and revenue projections included, it's a waste of their time to bother with it.

dover knows pretty well how many copies it sells of BCH or any other title. it already knows about epublishing, ebooks, pdfs, and so forth. if there were an opportunity there, they'd be incented to recognize it.

why wouldn't they recognize it? perhaps because the revenue base of most publishers is fragile. many of them have publishing down to a mass manufacturing process, everything standardized and streamlined front to back. it's not profitable to do a one off. they'd probably need to see a profit opportunity across dozens or hundreds of titles. my guess is, they don't: and if they do, they'll have amazon.com do it for them. though the first challenge would be, scanning all those murky photographs.

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4) I am pursuing other avenues to see if my digital workup of this book can be legally processed. I will keep everyone informed of my progress.




you already know it's not really *your* electronic copy. as soon as it leaves your hands -- in whatever form, for free, for charity, for humanity, whatever -- you've impinged on the publisher's rights and necessarily need the publisher's permission.

i've always looked askance at the fetishizing of burnham's books ... but the sentiment to "reincarnate" him in one form or another seems bizarre and a bit macabre.


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Re: Burnham's Celestial Handbook - Digital new [Re: Daniel Mounsey]
      #4339770 - 01/25/11 04:50 PM

Quote:

Thanks for sharing this. It's the only page I can read from BCH since I wont be able to see a copy for another 2 weeks. Quality looks fine.




???

Burnham's volume 1, brand new, in stock


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Re: Burnham's Celestial Handbook - Digital new [Re: drollere]
      #4340679 - 01/26/11 12:43 AM

One thing it's easy for everyone to do is to go to the BCH Amazon page and click "I'd like to read this on Kindle."

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Re: Burnham's Celestial Handbook - Digital new [Re: UmaDog]
      #4340921 - 01/26/11 07:30 AM

Great idea!
I went and did just that, and saw that you can click on "LOOK INSIDE!" and pull up a few scanned pages of the book, which must have been provided by Dover.


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Re: Burnham's Celestial Handbook - Digital new [Re: burb scope]
      #5111322 - 03/08/12 09:34 AM

I have my copy of BCH up and running on an iPad now.
I originally had a .pdf file for each book, but the iPad could not handle .pdfs that large. I made a separate intro .pdf, then a separate .pdf for each constellation.


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Re: Burnham's Celestial Handbook - Digital [Re: burb scope]
      #5111434 - 03/08/12 10:34 AM

I wouldn't mind seeing this as an ebook...but don't see desperate need for it. It's not really a book to use at the telescope, afterall, but more a book for inside. If you just want the object lists, they are available for most planning programs from their user communities...

What I'd like in Kindle/ebook form would be The Night Sky Observer's Guide...


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