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drexelpbp
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Black and Decker Battery question new
      #3999831 - 08/22/10 06:23 PM

I have a Black and decker Electromate 400 plus jump start battery. It has worked great for the year I have had it.

Recently after charging it using the method described in the Users Manual it won't hold a charge. For this unit the manual says that if you charge it using 120v line power you don't have to unplug it after it is fully charged - in other words you can keep it plugged in until the next use. This method has worked fine over the one year i have had it.

The problem is that the last time I charged it it would not hold a charge. My meter indicates that it charges to 13.7 volts, but when I unplug it quickly loses its charge.

Has anybody had any experience with this battery? Is it dead?

Thanks

Gary


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bigbeck
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Reged: 08/13/08

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Re: Black and Decker Battery question new [Re: drexelpbp]
      #3999867 - 08/22/10 06:43 PM

Sounds like it's dead. Can you use it to power anything or is it dead in a matter of minutes?

Don


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Jim Romanski
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Re: Black and Decker Battery question new [Re: drexelpbp]
      #4000123 - 08/22/10 09:01 PM

There was a thread about the:
Black & Decker Power Station

But it talks more about the issues of over drawing from it. Maybe someone from that post has some ideas?


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Mary B
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Loc: Minnesota
Re: Black and Decker Battery question new [Re: Jim Romanski]
      #4000138 - 08/22/10 09:11 PM

Sounds like you may have cooked the battery dry. They claim it can stay connected and charging but unless there is a really good regulation circuit it probably over charged and over heated.

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Midnight Dan
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Re: Black and Decker Battery question new [Re: Mary B]
      #4000755 - 08/23/10 07:32 AM

I have one of these units and my battery went dead too. I found an online source and replaced the internal battery. Works fine now.

-Dan


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drexelpbp
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Re: Black and Decker Battery question new [Re: Midnight Dan]
      #4000772 - 08/23/10 07:55 AM

Dan, where did you find a replacement battery?

Thanks

Gary


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imjeffp
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Re: Black and Decker Battery question new [Re: drexelpbp]
      #4000918 - 08/23/10 09:58 AM

Batteries Plus works for me.

This is why I use my Battery Tender instead of the built in charger on my jump starters. I'm on my 4th year on a cheap Radio Shack 7ah unit.

Edited by imjeffp (08/23/10 10:02 AM)


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Midnight Dan
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Re: Black and Decker Battery question new [Re: drexelpbp]
      #4000943 - 08/23/10 10:19 AM

I got it from www.batterystation.com. The model number was UB12180NB and it was $35.

The case of the B&D unit was a bit of a pain to open, but if you're persistent, you'll find all the screws. I seem to remember cutting off the rubber covering on the handle to expose the screws there holding the two halves together. And I belive the rubber end bumpers can be pried off with a screwdriver or knife.

Once you get it open, I think there were a few wires that keep the sides together, but I could separate it enough to get the battery out without disconnecting them all. Replacing the battery after you open it is a snap.

My memory is a bit fuzzy on all this so I'm not sure I've got the details right, but again, if you're patient in finding and dealing with all the screws, it's no big deal to open up.

-Dan


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b1gred
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Re: Black and Decker Battery question new [Re: imjeffp]
      #4002280 - 08/23/10 09:22 PM

Quote:

Batteries Plus works for me.

This is why I use my Battery Tender instead of the built in charger on my jump starters. I'm on my 4th year on a cheap Radio Shack 7ah unit.




The "Battery Tender" and the "Battery Minder" both ensure longer life than most of the OEM chargers that come with these units.


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Mary B
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Re: Black and Decker Battery question new [Re: b1gred]
      #4002440 - 08/23/10 11:02 PM

Look for one that can equalize the battery(it cleans the plates). It will extend battery life.

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Jim Romanski
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Re: Black and Decker Battery question new [Re: Mary B]
      #4002476 - 08/23/10 11:20 PM

It might not be so easy to use a battery tender with the B&D unit. It doesn't come with the typical "wall-wart" transformer. Instead the transformer is built-in and you just plug in any extension cord on the unit. I think it's one of the nice features of the B&D but in this case it might be limiting.

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b1gred
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Re: Black and Decker Battery question new [Re: Jim Romanski]
      #4002672 - 08/24/10 01:41 AM

You can charge it "backward" via the jumper cables. Connect the charger to them with the switch on...

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imjeffp
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Re: Black and Decker Battery question new [Re: b1gred]
      #4003305 - 08/24/10 02:36 PM

I have a male plug on the charger that plugs in like any other piece of equipment.

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Larry F
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Re: Black and Decker Battery question new [Re: imjeffp]
      #4003544 - 08/24/10 04:22 PM

The B&D 400 doesn't have an inverter charger or trickle charger. You plug it right into 110, as Jim notes. Although the instructions say you can't overcharge it, the instructions also say to disconnect it from the wall current and to recharge it every 3 months. It also has a 12-volt connector that allows you to charge it from the car's auxiliary 12-volt socket (formerly the cigarette lighter, but we're all enlightened these days) and the instructions clearly state to disconnect it as soon as it charges.

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Midnight Dan
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Re: Black and Decker Battery question [Re: Larry F]
      #4004101 - 08/24/10 09:14 PM

Quote:

The B&D 400 doesn't have an inverter charger or trickle charger. You plug it right into 110, as Jim notes




Like Randy said, you can charge it using the included jumper cables. These are wired directly to the internal battery when the switch is in the correct position. So you can use any standard battery tender, trickle charger, etc. to charge it that way.

-Dan


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