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APM M.Ludes
Vendor (APM Telescopes)

Reged: 05/01/03

Loc: Germany

real 100 mm Apo Binoculars
#4533841 - 04/21/11 09:57 AM

as an info for a Tpoic on the Binocular forum, we would like to come up with some first infos about new APM Apo Binoculars 100 mm with interchangable eyepieces:

new real Douplet FPL Apos now in progress, straight modells, 45° modells and 90° modells.This Modells using FPL ED Glas and we required a usefull power up to 150 x and a illuminated circle of about 10 mm.
We have the first optical layout by hand and continue to work on them. It will take some more time before testsamples arrive. If they follow our designs, it will get a great new product, much more expensive then all others, but worth it. We want something in quality of the Myauchi Fluorite Apos and Kowa Highlander Fluorite as a final result, but much less expensive.
We keep you informed about our progress

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Vondragonnoggin
Post Laureate

Reged: 02/21/10

Loc: Southern CA, USA

Re: real 100 mm Apo Binoculars new

[Re: APM M.Ludes]
#4533852 - 04/21/11 10:02 AM

Thanks for the redirect from the binoculars forum to here. There are a good number of us bino enthusiasts that are anxiously awaiting better quality models of 45° and particularly 90° models of 100mm binocular telescopes. I have heard very good things about your service as well. A real doublet Apo BT would be welcomed if it even comes a little close to Miyauchi or Kowa performance and build.

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Scopyfrank
999 Forever

Reged: 08/29/08

Loc: Luxembourg

Re: real 100 mm Apo Binoculars new

[Re: APM M.Ludes]
#4533883 - 04/21/11 10:17 AM

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Mark9473
Postmaster

Reged: 07/21/05

Loc: 51°N 4°E

Re: real 100 mm Apo Binoculars new

[Re: Scopyfrank]
#4533939 - 04/21/11 10:45 AM

Markus, could you estimate the final price to the nearest 1000 euro? Or is it anyway going to be something like the cost of your 105mm Binoptic binoscope? (or more?)

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APM M.Ludes
Vendor (APM Telescopes)

Reged: 05/01/03

Loc: Germany

Re: real 100 mm Apo Binoculars new

[Re: Mark9473]
#4534482 - 04/21/11 02:19 PM

I have no price idea, I can only guess and my guess is, that it could be twice as the others, means around $ 2,000 , but its a guess only from experience.

I have some good hope for the quality

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Mark9473
Postmaster

Reged: 07/21/05

Loc: 51°N 4°E

Re: real 100 mm Apo Binoculars new

[Re: APM M.Ludes]
#4534861 - 04/21/11 05:08 PM

Wow, if it lives up to your specifications above that would be an interesting price point. Thanks Markus.

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APM M.Ludes
Vendor (APM Telescopes)

Reged: 05/01/03

Loc: Germany

Re: real 100 mm Apo Binoculars new

[Re: Mark9473]
#4544662 - 04/26/11 05:06 AM

The Optical Design is now completed. We have a 5 mm image circle with 100 % illumination , that is more then any other high end binocular we know and should be a fanatastic result

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Scopyfrank
999 Forever

Reged: 08/29/08

Loc: Luxembourg

Re: real 100 mm Apo Binoculars new

[Re: APM M.Ludes]
#4544680 - 04/26/11 05:28 AM

Will they have the same housing than the existing binos?

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Vondragonnoggin
Post Laureate

Reged: 02/21/10

Loc: Southern CA, USA

Re: real 100 mm Apo Binoculars new

[Re: Scopyfrank]
#4544941 - 04/26/11 09:12 AM

Any chance of a product in the 90° type available by November this year? Will you have black available as the color the the 100 ED semi-apo 45° models?

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APM M.Ludes
Vendor (APM Telescopes)

Reged: 05/01/03

Loc: Germany

Re: real 100 mm Apo Binoculars new

[Re: Vondragonnoggin]
#4544977 - 04/26/11 09:28 AM

speaking about the housings is to early, I required as lightweight as possible housings.

I required also new focusers

plan is to start delivery in later 2011, yes

color: I am undecited , whats your wishes ? We are free in Terms of color

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Scopyfrank
999 Forever

Reged: 08/29/08

Loc: Luxembourg

Re: real 100 mm Apo Binoculars new

[Re: APM M.Ludes]
#4545027 - 04/26/11 09:47 AM

Thank you. Sorry for anticipating.

Re color: mmh, white with red or blue APM logo (like the 6 inch binos)?
Or red Bordeaux to fit on a black/dark red Berlebach azimutal mount (Giro style, with L bracket) and an ash-grey/dark grey Berlebach wooden tripod?
Metallic anthracit would be nice too?
Why not decline it in several, customer choice colors like Astrotech did with their cute 66mm EDs?
Black or metallic silver is nice too but these colors may create confusion with the semi APO and the simple 100m bino that already exist (if that is really an issue?).
Some metallic green could nicely fir with Ethos/Delos eyepieces

Just a few ideas.

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APM M.Ludes
Vendor (APM Telescopes)

Reged: 05/01/03

Loc: Germany

Re: real 100 mm Apo Binoculars new

[Re: Scopyfrank]
#4545037 - 04/26/11 09:50 AM

thanks for the ideas,you are right, we should do something nice here and when its time we come back to ask how you like it :-)

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Vondragonnoggin
Post Laureate

Reged: 02/21/10

Loc: Southern CA, USA

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[Re: APM M.Ludes]
#4545068 - 04/26/11 10:07 AM

Great news. As much as i want it available in black, Frank may be right in not confusing it with the semi-apo 100ED. Would prefer a darker color for sure though. As long as it is not champagne/silver/yellow/pink, I think it will be great. Dark Green/Blue/Gray/Burgundy would be alright. If you can do black, then that would suit too, even if it is the same color as the semi-apo. I would like to see something that disappears more when under dark conditions than my current white BT70/90. I would have preferred that in black too.

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Scopyfrank
999 Forever

Reged: 08/29/08

Loc: Luxembourg

Re: real 100 mm Apo Binoculars new

[Re: Vondragonnoggin]
#4545089 - 04/26/11 10:14 AM

Quote:

... I would like to see something that disappears more when under dark conditions than my current white BT70/90. I would have preferred that in black too.

That's certainly much more of an astronomer's argument than my aesthetic ones. On the other hand, slightly brighter color could help to better be instantly aware about the exact orientation of the instrument.

White scope tubes (refractors or newtonians) certainly have a reason to be so. Let's wait and see the end result.

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Wes James
Postmaster

Reged: 04/12/06

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[Re: APM M.Ludes]
#4545488 - 04/26/11 01:03 PM

Quote:

I required as lightweight as possible housings

With all due respect, I hope that light weight will not be a trade-off for adequately solid/ruggedly built... I tend to prefer things that are built like a tank, as opposed to lightweight/not as well made... I realize there's a happy spot in there somewhere for all, but just a thought. Just hoping it will be a solid build quality!

One additional thought- how about incorporating rubber plug-covered ports of some sort- or some sort of access to lend easy access to collimation adjustments? Seems there's always a bit of tweaking required- and it's a pain to have to take a plate off with an eyepiece holder on it to give a little tweak, put it back on, and see if you went the right way or not... and to keep having to do that! Man, if you could tweak the adjustments- then look to see the immediate effect, it'd be another whole ballgame!

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APM M.Ludes
Vendor (APM Telescopes)

Reged: 05/01/03

Loc: Germany

Re: real 100 mm Apo Binoculars new

[Re: Wes James]
#4546018 - 04/26/11 05:05 PM

Hi Wes

I believe I have more aligned than anybody else, so I am fully with you and your idea, which is a part of my wish list :-)
I do my best to build a very userfriendly model
let see how many of our wished can be fullfilled :-)

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Vondragonnoggin
Post Laureate

Reged: 02/21/10

Loc: Southern CA, USA

Re: real 100 mm Apo Binoculars new