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#5112175 - 03/08/12 06:09 PM
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A 121 vendors so far? wow! I would like to open a Self help booth for the spring aperture fever victims. My cure- buy more telescopes. 
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#5122526 - 03/14/12 07:16 PM
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Is there a speakers list? Shouldn't it be confirmed by now?
Just trying to plan my days there.
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10gauge
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Re: First taste of NEAF 2012
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#5127400 - 03/17/12 05:43 PM
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Will there be any special pricing or sales at NEAF? There hasn't been any sales in eyepieces, mounts, or telescopes since April of 2011. Christmas 2011 was a no show for vendor specials. All We have seen are 7-15% price increases for about a year for all the useful gear. I am trying to determine if it's worth going to buy eyepieces, mounts, accessories, or even another scope if the pricing is right. For example will we see $700 off a TMB130SS type of sale like we did in early 2011?... Will Tele Vue have a sale to their previous regular price?... This will be my first time, I am just trying gauge if it's worth driving 300 miles if there are sales or deals there, or it's only to see and touch new stuff?!
Thanks.
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BCB
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Re: First taste of NEAF 2012
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#5128139 - 03/18/12 07:59 AM
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It's ALWAYS worth the drive.. You never know what you may find, and haggling isn't out of the question either..
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Re: First taste of NEAF 2012
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#5130520 - 03/19/12 03:03 PM
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My wife just bought airplane tickets for me and my daughter to go to Newark to see my sister on Friday. 3 of us will go to NEAF on Saturday! I cant wait to meet Astronomic, CN, Dave E. from Astronomy magazine, IDA, and S & T magazine in person. I would check out Sky Shed Pods that I plan to buy one for my second home and meet some astronomers to discuss about my DSLR for astrophotographs! See all telescopes, eyepieces and lot more! I cant wait to go to NEAF 2012! 
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George N
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Re: First taste of NEAF 2012
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#5130588 - 03/19/12 03:47 PM
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Will there be any special pricing or sales at NEAF? ..... This will be my first time, I am just trying gauge if it's worth driving 300 miles if there are sales or deals there, or it's only to see and touch new stuff?!
Thanks.
I’ve never seen a major equipment maker (Televue, Celestron, etc) selling stuff at NEAF. If they did, they’d be cutting into the sales of their vendor stores. You need to buy from the “stores” like OPT or Astronomics who will have large set-ups there, and they often offer 'NEAF special' pricing.
Televue has in the past sold “blems” at NEAF, but they don’t seem to do that any more. Don Yeier of VERONscope often has some “blems” for sale. APM sometimes has some great prices (but high-end stuff). Nevertheless there are always good deals at NEAF, but the main reason for going (beyond the social, attending the great presentations, the good chances at great raffle prizes, and the solar viewing) is that you get to see and play with all of the ‘goodies’, and you can discuss it all with the makers and fellow astro-nuts. Can you really live with a C-14? Come to NEAF and see one. How does TheSky work? Ask Tom Bisque to show you. What eyepieces should you have? Ask Al Nagler. etc
....and if you buy at NEAF, you don't have to pay for shipping or wait to get your item ....but then any damage in transport will be your own fault! 
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RAKing
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Re: First taste of NEAF 2012
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#5130596 - 03/19/12 03:51 PM
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Will there be any special pricing or sales at NEAF? There hasn't been any sales in eyepieces, mounts, or telescopes since April of 2011. Christmas 2011 was a no show for vendor specials. All We have seen are 7-15% price increases for about a year for all the useful gear. I am trying to determine if it's worth going to buy eyepieces, mounts, accessories, or even another scope if the pricing is right. For example will we see $700 off a TMB130SS type of sale like we did in early 2011?... Will Tele Vue have a sale to their previous regular price?... This will be my first time, I am just trying gauge if it's worth driving 300 miles if there are sales or deals there, or it's only to see and touch new stuff?!
Thanks.
You can see, touch, and drool to your heart's content -- PLUS you can also buy. NEAF is a selling show. There have always been special prices at the show and many exhibitors carry these prices on their web sites for everyone.
Depending on how deep your pockets are, you could walk away with some fantastic gear at great savings. Most of the vendors would rather sell you the gear at a discount than pack and ship it back home. If you are looking for something in particular, it probably wouldn't hurt to call and make sure the exhibitor is bringing one.
April 2012 will be my fifth trip to NEAF and I always spend a few hundred dollars more than I planned. 
Cheers,
Ron
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MrKrink
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Re: First taste of NEAF 2012
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#5130912 - 03/19/12 06:37 PM
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Will there be any special pricing or sales at NEAF? ..... This will be my first time, I am just trying gauge if it's worth driving 300 miles if there are sales or deals there, or it's only to see and touch new stuff?!
Thanks.
I’ve never seen a major equipment maker (Televue, Celestron, etc) selling stuff at NEAF. If they did, they’d be cutting into the sales of their vendor stores. You need to buy from the “stores” like OPT or Astronomics who will have large set-ups there, and they often offer 'NEAF special' pricing.
Televue has in the past sold “blems” at NEAF, but they don’t seem to do that any more. Don Yeier of VERONscope often has some “blems” for sale. APM sometimes has some great prices (but high-end stuff). Nevertheless there are always good deals at NEAF, but the main reason for going (beyond the social, attending the great presentations, the good chances at great raffle prizes, and the solar viewing) is that you get to see and play with all of the ‘goodies’, and you can discuss it all with the makers and fellow astro-nuts. Can you really live with a C-14? Come to NEAF and see one. How does TheSky work? Ask Tom Bisque to show you. What eyepieces should you have? Ask Al Nagler. etc
....and if you buy at NEAF, you don't have to pay for shipping or wait to get your item ....but then any damage in transport will be your own fault!
Stellarvue sold everything they brought last year or close to it. I bought my Raptor from Vic himself(at a great price)but I did go to OPT to do the paperwork. Al Nagler said it had become too much of a madhouse of people trying(fighting)to get his blems so he quit bringing them.
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Illinois
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Re: First taste of NEAF 2012
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#5133836 - 03/21/12 02:50 PM
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Cant wait to go to NEAF 2012! Whats biggest dobsion? 40"? Refractor? What happened to Orion?
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Rusty
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#5134733 - 03/21/12 11:44 PM
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Biggest Dob was A PROTO 40". Biggest refractor was Astronomics 8" achro. Alan (Gone caving) may know about Orion.
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Illinois
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#5135099 - 03/22/12 09:16 AM
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Biggest Dob was A PROTO 40". Biggest refractor was Astronomics 8" achro. Alan (Gone caving) may know about Orion.
WOW! Cant wait to see that big scopes! Biggest I ever see is just 22" dobsonian and 6" refractor! Over 120 booths .... all day to look each booth!  I plan be there as early as NEAF open. Hope to see all of you there! You might know me as Illinois in CN because I am deaf.
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George N
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Re: First taste of NEAF 2012
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#5135432 - 03/22/12 12:33 PM
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Biggest Dob was A PROTO 40". Biggest refractor was Astronomics 8" achro. Alan (Gone caving) may know about Orion.
Didn't APM have a 10-inch APO year-before-last? ...including something like a 6-inch APO guide scope? I seem to remember it as a real monster on an AP 3600 mount.
I don't think the 40" has a real mirror in it, just a piece of plate glass. He had the same scope at Cherry Springs last year.
One year John Vogt had his ATM 32-inch on display. I’ve observed thru this scope a number of times over the years at Stellafane and Cherry Springs and I consider it the best Dob I’ve ever seen. It was featured in the PBS film “Seeing in the Dark”.
OGS had a 25-inch RC Cass on an OGS fork mount a few years ago - somewhere in the quarter million dollar range - used! Don't ask how much OGS charges for the 40-inch RC and mount....
Gotta also mention the 152mm solar h-alpha and Roland's 10-inch Mak on his AP 3600 mount.
Then there was a Meade 20-inch SCT and Planewave DK Cass somewhere in the 25-inch range.....
Plenty of big scopes to see at NEAF!
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bill1234
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Re: First taste of NEAF 2012
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#5135915 - 03/22/12 05:44 PM
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 Four weeks away and still no speaker list or schedule?????  
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Re: First taste of NEAF 2012
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#5135953 - 03/22/12 06:10 PM
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Hello everyone out there in NEAF Land ! Here is the current vendor list as of today...
1 Adirondack Public Observatory
2 ADM Accessories
3 Adorama
4 Aerolite Meteorites
5 Amateur Astronomy Magazine
6 Amateur Observers Society of NY
7 Antique Telescope Society
8 Apogee Instruments
9 Arunah Hill
10 Astro Dream Tech
11 Astro Gizmos
12 Astro Haven Domes
13 Astro Hutech / BORG
14 Astro Media / Sunwatch
15 Astro Physics
16 Astronomer's Without Borders
17 Astronomical League
18 Astronomical Society of the Pacific
19 Astronomics
20 Astronomy Magazine
21 Astronomy Shoppe
22 Astronomy Technology Today
23 Astronomy to Go
24 Astro-Tech
25 Astrotrac LTD
26 Astrotroniks
27 Atik Cameras
28 Avalon Instruments
29 B & H Photo
30 BBC Sky at Night
31 Big Bang Toys
32 Cambridge University Press
33 Camera Concepts
34 Canon
35 Carina Software
36 Celestron
37 Challenger Center
38 Challenger Center, Dome
39 Chroma Corp
40 Clear Skies Catalog
41 Cloudy Nights
42 Dark Skies Apparel
43 Dark Star Enterprizes
44 Daystar Filters
45 Denkmier Optical
46 Diffraction Limited
47 Discmounts
48 Earthwin Optical
49 Explora-Dome
50 Explore Scientific
51 Field Tested Software
52 Finger Lakes Instrumentation
53 Foster Systems
54 Hand's on Optics
55 High Point Scientific
56 Hotech
57 Howie Glatter's Laser Collimators
58 i Optron
59 InfiniTees
60 Innovations Foresight
61 International Dark Skies Assoication
62 International Occultation Timing Association
63 ISTAR
64 Kendricks Astro Instruments
65 Kids Lectures
66 Kid's Sciences
67 Kirk Rogers Photography
68 Knightware
69 Kopernik Observatory
70 Lunt Solar Systems
71 Mag-1 Instruments
72 Mathis Instruments
73 Meade Instruments
74 Meteorite Men
75 Monstar Prints
76 Moonglow
77 Moonlite Telescope
78 NEAF Solar Star Party
79 New Mexico Southern Skies
80 NY Skies
81 Oceanside Photo and Telescope
82 Optec Inc.
83 Peterson Enginering
84 Pier Tech
85 Planewave Instruments
86 PreciseParts
87 Proto Star
88 Q.S.I.
89 Questar
90 Rob Gendler Astro Photography
91 Rockland Astronomy Club
92 Santa Barbara Instrument Group
93 Shelyak Instruments
94 Shrouds by Heather
95 Sky and Telescope Magazine
96 Sky Shed Pods
97 Sky Watcher
98 Software Bisque
99 Southeastern Camera
100 Southern Stars
101 Springer Publishing
102 Springfield Telescope Makers
103 Starlight Instruments
104 Starlight Xpress
105 Stellarvue
106 Sunriver Nature Center
107 T.M.B. Optical
108 Takahashi
109 Talons
110 Teeter's Telescopes
111 Tele Vue
112 Telescope Engineering Complany
113 Telescope Support Systems
114 Telescopes By Normand Fullum
115 United Astronomy Clubs of NJ
116 Unitron Italia Instruments
117 Universal Astronomics
118 Vernon Scope
119 Veronica Mathis Minerals
120 Vintage Telescope Display presented by Cloudy Night Members
121 Vixen Optics
122 Waite Research
123 Wally Pacholka Astrophotography
124 Westchester Amateur Astronomers
125 Williams Optics
126 Willman Bell
127 Wood Wonders
128 Woodland Hills
129 Worldwide Telescope Ambassador Program
130 The Imaging Source
131 Glenn Wester Astrophotography
More to follow ........
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Gone caving
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NEAF 2012 Speaker Schedule
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#5135990 - 03/22/12 06:33 PM
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And here is the speaker schedule as of today....
Saturday 28th
Exhibit Hall Hours 8:30am to 6:00pm
9:00 – 11:30 Morning Workshop – Solar imaging with Stephen Ramsden
Preregistration Required
11:00 – 11:15 Welcoming remarks by Alan Traino, Rockland Astronomy Club
With Sky & Telescope Magazine and Astronomy Magazine
11:15 – 12:15 Robert Naeye S&T Editor on The Venus Transit
12:30 – 2:00 Stephen Ramsden with the Charlie Bates Solar Astronomy Project introducing Dr. Steele Hill with NASA Goddard SOHO Telescope
2:15 – 3:15 Dr. Mark Clampin with NASA’s James Webb Space Telescope
3:30 – 4:30 Dr. Joseph Liske with the European Extremely Large Telescope
4:45 – 6:00 “Saving Hubble” the movie presented by David Gaynes and the Hubble roadshow
Sunday 29th
Exhibit Hall Hours 10:00am to 5:00pm
9:00 – 11:00 Morning Workshop – Tom Fields “You Can Almost Touch the Stars!”
This hands-on workshop for amateurs who want to learn from scratch how
to do spectroscopy. Preregistration Required
12:00 – 12:15 Welcoming remarks by Alan Traino of the Rockland Astronomy Club
With Sky & Telescope Magazine and Astronomy Magazine
12:15 – 1:15 The Astronomical Society of the Pacific’s Marni Berendsen
Ten Common Challenges Astronomy Clubs Face and the Keys to Solving Them
1:30 – 3:30 Steve Arnold and Geoff Notkin of the Discovery channel’s The Meteorite Men
3:30 – 4:30 David Eicher Editor of Astronomy Magazine – Astronomy’s New Frontier
4:45 – 5:00 Door Prizes
All information is subject to errors as I typed it...... 
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RAKing
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Re: First taste of NEAF 2012
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Biggest Dob was A PROTO 40". Biggest refractor was Astronomics 8" achro. Alan (Gone caving) may know about Orion.
Didn't APM have a 10-inch APO year-before-last? ...including something like a 6-inch APO guide scope? I seem to remember it as a real monster on an AP 3600 mount.
I don't think the 40" has a real mirror in it, just a piece of plate glass. He had the same scope at Cherry Springs last year.
One year John Vogt had his ATM 32-inch on display. I’ve observed thru this scope a number of times over the years at Stellafane and Cherry Springs and I consider it the best Dob I’ve ever seen. It was featured in the PBS film “Seeing in the Dark”.
OGS had a 25-inch RC Cass on an OGS fork mount a few years ago - somewhere in the quarter million dollar range - used! Don't ask how much OGS charges for the 40-inch RC and mount....
Gotta also mention the 152mm solar h-alpha and Roland's 10-inch Mak on his AP 3600 mount.
Then there was a Meade 20-inch SCT and Planewave DK Cass somewhere in the 25-inch range.....
Plenty of big scopes to see at NEAF!
Here is a picture of the ADM 10 inch Apo. Sorry for the quality - I have been drooling on it for a couple of years.
Cheers,
Ron
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RAKing
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Re: First taste of NEAF 2012
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Orion also brought one of their big Dobs that year - a 36 incher.
Ron
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Jim langley
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#5137033 - 03/23/12 12:08 PM
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Does Obsession come to this show?
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DaveJ
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#5137377 - 03/23/12 03:43 PM
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Does Obsession come to this show?
Current list of vendors from the Man himself.
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