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geoffrey
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Reged: 01/05/04
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Loc: North West England
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Hello Kenny, this is mainly for you since you have the above. I was thinking of these for my next pair, and while they get good reviews, I cannot find any details re. eye relief. Can you assist.
Many thanks and regards
Geoffrey
-------------------- Celestron Nextstar 8SE
6.25" F7.6 Dob
Skywatcher ST80
Opticron imagic BGA PC ASF T 8x42
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Anonymous
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Hello Geoffrey,I too have Helios 15x70 very good binoculars for the price eye relief is supposedly 8mm I suspect it is slightly less,mine are approx 5 months old in mint condition and are for sale if your interested {upgrading hopefully] Jeff.
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geoffrey
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Reged: 01/05/04
Posts: 358
Loc: North West England
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Thanks for the reply Jeff. I don't think 8mm is much use at my age with Specs.
Regards
Geoffrey
-------------------- Celestron Nextstar 8SE
6.25" F7.6 Dob
Skywatcher ST80
Opticron imagic BGA PC ASF T 8x42
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KennyJ
   
Reged: 04/27/03
Posts: 10143
Loc: Lancashire UK
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Hi Geoffrey,
The Helios 15 x 70s are a DEFINITE No-No if ,like me, you need glasses to see properly.
It's a strange one really , because all the other configurations , even the 20x70s and 20 x 80s have greater eye -relief.
This is a shame , because they are quite good value for money otherwise.
I don't really like them for terrestrial use though , but I have been seen walking around with them strung around my neck on quite a few occasions.
I mainly use them for "little experiments" against my other binos , mainly 10 x 50s , to be honest.
In fact if you didn't need glasses I would be quite happy to sell them on to you at a very good price ( after all I'm only about 30 miles away I think ! )
I was using them tonight earlier to look at the Orion Nebula mainly ,and with glasses on , I checked the TFOV using EdZs reliable method of calculation with the three belt stars , and could only barely get all three stars ( around 2.8 degrees ) into the field of view at the same time.
That kind of field of view restriction is what prevents me from even considering such as the Pentax 16x and 20x models , good as they are otherwise.
Even on the nebula itself , I have never been impressed with the view through these 15 x 70s.
I'm convinced that no way could anyone ever resolve the 4th trapezium star with these , unless they had super -human eyesight and were under the darkest skies on earth.
I do long sometimes for the quality of view available with a Fujinon 16 x 70 , but in spite of enjoying reading books and internet articles about binocular astronomy , in this climate and these seeing conditions , my interest in the subject is just not quite keen enough to warrant buying such a pair of binos just for the few occasions I'm prepared to brave the cold.
Of course the Zeiss 15 x 60, Swarovski 15 x 56 or even Minox 15 x 58 or Optolyth Royale 15 x 63 would probably be much more versatile and more useful for me than the Fujinon 16 x 70.
I'd rather put the £650 towards a really good spotting scope to be honest.
Sorry about the bad news , but if you're struck on 15 x 70s why not consider importing Oberwerk 15 x 70s from Kevin Busarrow at Big Binoculars.com ?
Even with import duty and shipping etc. they still work out at only around £160 tops. -- Not much less than the Helios.
Don't forget the Oberwerks have around 19mm eye relief and a wider field of view ( 4.3 v 4.0 ). Just a thought !
Regards Geoffrey and keep in touch -- Kenny.
-------------------- Two eyes and a preference to use both
Zeiss 7 x 42 BGAT
Captain's Helmsman 7 x 50
Nikon 10 x 42 Superior E
Swift Audubon Kestrel 10 x 50
Helios 15 x 70 Observation
Strathspey 20 x 90
Televue 76 APO
Zeiss 85 Diascope
Helios 102 f5 refractor
Various eyepieces barlows tripods mounts etc.
Panasonic Lumix DMC - TZ5 digital camera
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geoffrey
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Reged: 01/05/04
Posts: 358
Loc: North West England
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Good Morning Kenny and thanks. Yes I wear glasses, but can view without them if necessary, but it is a bit of a fag swapping and changing in the dark. I use varifocals, and am still thinking about them for binos/scope use. I am still mulling over whether to go for bino astonomy only, or use my scope -a 4.5" reflector. I was disapointed with it at first, them I obtained a couple of Super Plossl eyepieces which have made life a lot better. Still wondering if I should have bought a 4" refractor, although all the evidence I have read should lead me to a 6" Dob. But then they are "bigger than me", so will need to think about that. I have yet to convince myself that seeing things only a few mm's in a scope will keep me happy (will probably have the keen lads onto me for that?), but anyones imput would be welcome please. I think it is Star Clusters and the like that I will major on, but it is early days yet
Surprised you could see much last night Kenny? It was clearish here in South Manchester about 6pm, but when I went to see whether it was worth putting the scope out to cool, I could note see much in Orion with the binos, so did not bother.
Regards
Geoffrey
-------------------- Celestron Nextstar 8SE
6.25" F7.6 Dob
Skywatcher ST80
Opticron imagic BGA PC ASF T 8x42
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KennyJ
   
Reged: 04/27/03
Posts: 10143
Loc: Lancashire UK
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Hi again Geoffrey,
Yes I must admit my latest "Orion experience" was more of a "window of opportunity" for about half an hour around 7.30pm rather than any kind of "serious session", which as you can image , given our weather, my limited knowledge of the skies and my LEANING toward "terrestrial" viewing ( see photo ! )is about as rare as finding Rocking Horse droppings
Consequently ,the way I'm shaping up I am about as likely to ever get a "Messier marathon certificate" as Harold Shipman is to get a post-humous M.B.E.
I suspect from what you say Geoffrey that you are quite new to this hobby ,and my knowledge of your current and any previous magnifying equipment is sketchy at best.
I am going to send you a private message to try to establish one or two things before I waffle on unnecessarily.
Speak to you soon -- Kenny.
-------------------- Two eyes and a preference to use both
Zeiss 7 x 42 BGAT
Captain's Helmsman 7 x 50
Nikon 10 x 42 Superior E
Swift Audubon Kestrel 10 x 50
Helios 15 x 70 Observation
Strathspey 20 x 90
Televue 76 APO
Zeiss 85 Diascope
Helios 102 f5 refractor
Various eyepieces barlows tripods mounts etc.
Panasonic Lumix DMC - TZ5 digital camera
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