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macona
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Re: QUANTIX HELP......... new [Re: kw6562]
      #4660791 - 06/27/11 01:28 AM

Wow, I cant wait to get this thing up and running. My optec filter wheel should be here this week. According to tracking it is in town but waiting for clearance (Seller was in canada).

I did get my moonlight focuser last week. What a piece of work! The nicest anodizing I have ever seen.

Of course I need clear skys which I can count on one hand for the last month. grrr...

Oh, I also got a really nice Nikon 200mm macro telephoto lens. Planning on piggybacking it on the scope. But it also takes freeking amazing macro photos. If you are interested check out my flickr page:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/67292116@N00/sets/72157627041373036/


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SBarden
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Reged: 01/11/11

Loc: Sunspot, NM
Re: QUANTIX HELP......... new [Re: macona]
      #4661407 - 06/27/11 01:15 PM

Hi. Just came across this. I've just received 3 of these cameras for a prototype instrument. I haven't got the funding yet for the other bits I need, but decided I couldn't let these cameras slip by. I'll be running all three simultaneously, which I believe the software allows.

On another project, we had a meeting with Princeton Instruments. I mentioned these and the sale rep said that they originally cost about $60k a piece.

Anyway, I'll try to share my experience as well.


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sullij1
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Reged: 11/08/08

Re: QUANTIX HELP......... new [Re: SBarden]
      #4661431 - 06/27/11 01:22 PM

TOO FUNNY I feel so much better knowing that. It won't be so bad now when my wife gives me those "is it really worth it" looks.

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SBarden
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Reged: 01/11/11

Loc: Sunspot, NM
Re: QUANTIX HELP......... new [Re: sullij1]
      #4661445 - 06/27/11 01:25 PM

I'm not so sure my wife would appreciate the original value as well!

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kw6562
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Re: QUANTIX HELP......... new [Re: SBarden]
      #4661804 - 06/27/11 05:23 PM

Quote:

I mentioned these and the sale rep said that they originally cost about $60k a piece.






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macona
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Re: QUANTIX HELP......... new [Re: kw6562]
      #4662321 - 06/27/11 11:33 PM

Got the shutter mounted. At least temporarily. Screws not really long enough.

Got ready to wire things in. Not going to work, two problems. Shutter pulls too much from the 5v rail and the shutter connection works differently that I was expecting. So the plan now is to pull of 24v off the big capacitor and run a 24 to 5v dc/dc converter to supply power to the shutter and run a relay off the shutter connection to activate it. I can attach it all to the lid.


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kw6562
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Re: QUANTIX HELP......... new [Re: macona]
      #4662332 - 06/27/11 11:43 PM

How much current does your shutter draw?

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sullij1
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Re: QUANTIX HELP......... new [Re: kw6562]
      #4662458 - 06/28/11 01:53 AM

Jerry.

I hope this link works http://www.electromechanicsonline.com/product.asp?pid=9

I ordered one of these custom made for 6 volts DC. Order the amount of throw and return you need on the return spring. I screwed up and got a push instead of pull. But when I mocked it up to the manual shutter it had plenty of push to activate the shutter. So I assume it would have plenty of pull to do the same. You would need to figure a way to seperate the current selenoid in the shutter and mount this one. No sweat for you.... about 30 bucks shipped and no need to mod the circuit. It worked fine off the current circuit.


512selenoid by Sullij1, on Flickr

Just trying to help.


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sullij1
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Re: QUANTIX HELP......... new [Re: sullij1]
      #4662463 - 06/28/11 02:03 AM

BTW, check out all th choices under the selenoid section on the web site, looks like they whip up anything you want.

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macona
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Re: QUANTIX HELP......... new [Re: sullij1]
      #4662468 - 06/28/11 02:20 AM

I had everything to complete my master plan. I found on the circuit board next to the big capacitor there was a spot for another cap and that was in parallel with the main cap. So I pulled off my 24v to feed the DC/DC converter from there. I found a small relay that would be triggered by the existing shutter driver. Tried 24 and 15v but neither would hold. Finally a 12v relay did the trick. Wired everything up. +5 from the DC/DC converter goes to the +5v supply line in the shutter and to the common on the relay. The NO line goes to trigger on the shutter and ground goes to ground.

Works like a charm. You really need a shutter with this camera. All the issues I had before with overexposed images are gone. The difference is night and day. The laptop works great too.

There may be one problem with changing the solenoid to a lower voltage one. I believe part of the reason they design it to trigger at a high voltage and hold at a lower is so when the shutter is released the magnetic field in the solenoid collapses faster and the shutter closes sooner and faster.

Anyway, I am a happy camper now. Just need to find some screws of the appropriate length.

As usual, a couple pics, one with an old 35-70 zoom Nikon lens attached. One of the guts. The silver thing with the white thing attached to the lid is the dc/dc converter and the relay.


IMG_0695 by macona, on Flickr


IMG_0692 by macona, on Flickr


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SBarden
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Reged: 01/11/11

Loc: Sunspot, NM
Re: QUANTIX HELP......... new [Re: macona]
      #4663689 - 06/28/11 06:37 PM

Ok, I must be doing something wrong. Two different cameras both failed to be detected by the RS Image software. I get a PVCAM error code = 0 message. Has anyone else had problems with this. I used the disk shipped with the cameras for the drivers. Do I need to have the computer search the internet for updated drivers? I'm running a PC with XP SP3. I thought I could get by without having to access the internet.

Thanks in advance!


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kw6562
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Re: QUANTIX HELP......... new [Re: SBarden]
      #4663707 - 06/28/11 06:46 PM

Hi Sam - Try one of the older drivers on the Photometrics website - I'm using 2.6.9.3 without problems link --Keith

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sullij1
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Re: QUANTIX HELP......... new [Re: SBarden]
      #4663711 - 06/28/11 06:51 PM

Quote:

Ok, I must be doing something wrong. Two different cameras both failed to be detected by the RS Image software. I get a PVCAM error code = 0 message. Has anyone else had problems with this. I used the disk shipped with the cameras for the drivers. Do I need to have the computer search the internet for updated drivers? I'm running a PC with XP SP3. I thought I could get by without having to access the internet.

Thanks in advance!




I had the same problem when I first tried to detect the camera. I downloaded a legacy driver from Photometrix and installed it. I also used a verification tool within the software that identifide the cam status. All worked fine after that. No problems from that point forward. someone else had the same issue. The dialog is contained somewhere in the thread.


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macona
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Re: QUANTIX HELP......... new [Re: kw6562]
      #4663712 - 06/28/11 06:51 PM

Yes, I have had that problem a several times. Dont turn on the camera until after the machine has fully booted.

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SBarden
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Re: QUANTIX HELP......... new [Re: kw6562]
      #4663715 - 06/28/11 06:53 PM

Thanks, Keith. I'll give it a try.

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sullij1
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Re: QUANTIX HELP......... new [Re: macona]
      #4663727 - 06/28/11 07:02 PM

Quote:

Yes, I have had that problem a several times. Dont turn on the camera until after the machine has fully booted.




Agree, I think that will be in my unwritten procedure.


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kw6562
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Re: QUANTIX HELP......... new [Re: sullij1]
      #4665941 - 06/29/11 11:07 PM Attachment (39 downloads)

Just wanted to post this for laughs...This is my "control center" in the corner of the living room, looking out onto the deck where the roll-off is located, and that's me on the right. The laptop on the left is the main PC for the scope, including the "other" cameras. The monitor in the middle is connected to the desktop running the Quantix. The laptop on the right is dedicated to guiding through the ST4 jack. What a nerd...

Working on Ha of North America/Pelican tonight, as you can see...Clear skies --Keith


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Re: QUANTIX HELP......... new [Re: sullij1]
      #4666143 - 06/30/11 02:44 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Ok, I must be doing something wrong. Two different cameras both failed to be detected by the RS Image software. I get a PVCAM error code = 0 message. Has anyone else had problems with this. I used the disk shipped with the cameras for the drivers. Do I need to have the computer search the internet for updated drivers? I'm running a PC with XP SP3. I thought I could get by without having to access the internet.

Thanks in advance!




I had the same problem when I first tried to detect the camera. I downloaded a legacy driver from Photometrix and installed it. I also used a verification tool within the software that identifide the cam status. All worked fine after that. No problems from that point forward. someone else had the same issue. The dialog is contained somewhere in the thread.




downloaded all kinds of drivers mentioned here , sam problem error code =0 , no other soft also recognizes it...can someone post detailed instructions how to solve this?? any particular order computer-cam-soft have to be turned on?? any other tricks?? this is really frustrating, also can someone post a link to verification/detection plugin or software to verify connection


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SBarden
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Re: QUANTIX HELP......... new [Re: shurik]
      #4666554 - 06/30/11 10:50 AM

I'm still continuing to get the same issue as well after trying the suggestions here.

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Re: QUANTIX HELP......... new [Re: SBarden]
      #4666716 - 06/30/11 12:17 PM

I found this readme file and am trying to follow it. Will let you know if I succeed.

Windows Install Notes PVCAM 2.6.9

19-JAN-2004



PVCAM version 2.6.9 has been modified to improve stability and fix an issue with installation on a Windows XP computer.

The installer will prompt to update the firmware located on the PCI interface card, if needed. It is STRONGLY recommended that you upgrade to the latest version of the PCI frimware.



INSTALLATION:


(1) Installing PVCam On a Clean System

If installing PVCAM on a system that has not had a prior
installation of PVCAM, follow these instructions.

1. Do not install the PCI card!
2. Run the PVCAM install program (PvCAMSetup.exe) from the
CDROM or hard drive. Choose to exit the install without rebooting.
3. Shut down the computer and install the PCI card.
4. Restart the computer. You can run RSConfig if you want to change the
default name of the camera, but this is not necessary.
5. Run PVCAMtest, found under the Start menu at
"Start->Programs->Roper Scientific->PVCamtest",
to verify that everything is working correctly.
6. (Optional) Run RSImageSetup.exe on the CDROM or hard drive
to install the RSImage application.


(2) Installing PVCam V When An Older Version Was
Previously Installed

To check if an earlier version of PVCAM has been installed on
your computer, do a search of your hard disk(s) for the file
PVCAM32.dll. If this file exists on your system, right click
on this file, select Properties and check the version tab.
If a version tab does not appear, your version is earlier
than 2.5.8.

Upgrading from Version 2.5.8 or later

1. Run the older install and select the "Remove" option to
uninstall the older version. Alternatively, use the Windows
"Add/Remove" software function in "Control Panel" to remove it.
2. Run the installer and install the new version following
the instructions presented.
3. Run PVCamtest to verify that everything is working correctly.



Upgrading from Versions earlier than 2.5.8 only!

***** FOLLOW THESE INSTRUCTIONS ONLY IF YOU ARE UPGRADING *****
***** FROM A VERSION OF PVCAM EARLIER THAN 2.5.8 *****

This version of PVCam includes changes to the PCI driver
which require a name change in the system device list from
"Camera Adapter" to "Roper Scientific Camera," and a name
change from pmpcint.sys to pmwdm2k.sys.

For Windows 2000 and XP users: Due to the nature of Windows 2000,
simply removing the old driver is not enough to allow the new
driver to be used. Most of the steps necessary to remove the old
driver are done by the install program. However, there are several
steps that must be done manually.

The following steps must be done to install the new driver
correctly:

1. Turn off the computer.
2. Remove the Roper Scientific (Photometrics) PCI Card.
3. Turn on the computer. Windows will remove the missing
card from the device list.
4. Run the older PVCAM install program and select the "Remove" option to
uninstall the older version. Alternatively, use the Windows
"Add/Remove" software function in "Control Panel" to remove it.
5. (Win 2000 & XP only) Using the Windows Find Files program from the Start menu,
do a search for files named *.* AND containing text
"PMPCINT" in the C:\WINNT\INF folder, and delete those
files. If your Windows folder is not named WINNT,
substitute your folder name for WINNT.
6. Run the PVCAM install program (PvCAMSetup.exe) from the
CDROM or hard drive. Choose to exit the install without rebooting.
7. Shut down the computer and install the PCI card.
8. Restart the computer. You can run RSConfig if you want to change the
default name of the camera, but this is not necessary.
9. Run PVCAMtest, found under the Start menu at
"Start->Programs->Roper Scientific->PVCAM->PVCamtest",
to verify that everything is working correctly.
10. (Optional) Run RSImageSetup.exe on the CDROM or hard drive
to install the RSImage application.


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