Return to the Cloudy Nights Telescope Reviews home pageAstronomics discounts for Cloudy Nights members
· Get a Cloudy Nights T-Shirt · Submit a Review / Article

Click here if you are having trouble logging into the forums

Privacy Policy | Please read our Terms of Service | Signup and Troubleshooting FAQ | Problems? PM a Red or a Green Gu… uh, User

Equipment Discussions >> Mounts

Pages: 1 | 2 | (show all)
remuscj
sage
*****

Reged: 04/05/06

Loc: Singapore
Tripod for Paramount MX
      #4633257 - 06/11/11 05:42 AM

Hi!

Just a curious question: for those who ordered the MX, did u choose the stock tripod option? any other alternatives?


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
jmiele
Patron Saint?
*****

Reged: 12/04/10

Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: remuscj]
      #4633902 - 06/11/11 12:47 PM

I have several of Rob Millers tripods. I can't say enough about what a pleasure he is to work with. The product is top notch and he uses the same anodizing vendor as Bisque. His tripods are the lightest of even picked up. They are as stable and rated as high in capacity as anything else out there. I have a couple of the Tri36H (h= heavy) here but I think the MX goes on the M version. The L version weights 8 pounds! I think the M is in the low teens.

http://www.catamountsystems.com/contact-us

Shoot him an email and he will get back to you. PM if you want pics, however, I think someone here posted some in a thread also.

Did you get a ship date for your MX?

Joe


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
frolinmod
Carpal Tunnel


Reged: 08/06/10

Loc: Southern California
Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: jmiele]
      #4634279 - 06/11/11 04:45 PM Attachment (136 downloads)

Some alternatives:

1. Rob Miller TRI36M tripod made specifically for the MX.

2. Astro-physics portable pier (8-inch or 10-inch diameter) with locally fabricated aluminum top plate adapter.

3. Software Bisque's MX tripod which is more than twice as expensive as the above two alternatives.

Here's a picture of Rob Miller's TRI36L, TRI36M and TRI36H tripods:


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
PascalN
member
*****

Reged: 04/13/08

Loc: Plano, Texas
Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: frolinmod]
      #4636307 - 06/12/11 10:43 PM

I chose the TRI36M red anodized tripod from Rob Miller. A beautiful, amazingly stable, and very light tripod. Now - for the MX to arrive.

Pascal


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
jmiele
Patron Saint?
*****

Reged: 12/04/10

Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: PascalN]
      #4636373 - 06/12/11 11:47 PM

Did you order the levelers? Also a very handy option for fine adjustment in leveling the tripod. Gives you a 3" round footpad with an additional 1" of adjustment.

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Alph
Carpal Tunnel


Reged: 11/23/06

Loc: Melmac
Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: PascalN]
      #4636474 - 06/13/11 01:40 AM

Quote:

I chose the TRI36M red anodized tripod from Rob Miller. A beautiful, amazingly stable, and very light tripod. Now - for the MX to arrive.

Pascal



Does the base rotate 360 degrees?


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
jmiele
Patron Saint?
*****

Reged: 12/04/10

Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: Alph]
      #4636476 - 06/13/11 01:41 AM

The base plate in dovetailed on with 6 set screws. It's greased and yes does rotate 360.. Joe

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
frolinmod
Carpal Tunnel


Reged: 08/06/10

Loc: Southern California
Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: jmiele]
      #4636774 - 06/13/11 09:58 AM

When I asked Rob if it was possible to have those six hex head set screws for the rotating base be "knobs" instead, he said no.

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
jmiele
Patron Saint?
*****

Reged: 12/04/10

Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: frolinmod]
      #4636845 - 06/13/11 11:03 AM

Yeah the ME plate hangs over 4 of them on the E and W sides and I don't think there is much clearance in there. The MX plate/mount base are the came so I'm thinking it will be the same as on the H tripod.

See now if you replaced the 4 that are underneath with teflon tipped ends (like those holding a finder scope), they could be snugged up and still allow movement on the greased bearing. The two that protrude on the N and S could be knobs to lock it down after you had it set.

Joe

Edited by jmiele (06/13/11 11:03 AM)


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
remuscj
sage
*****

Reged: 04/05/06

Loc: Singapore
Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: jmiele]
      #4636934 - 06/13/11 11:59 AM

thanks for the input guys! no, i have not ordered my MX yet, but it would be a member in a list of mount upgrades from my current decade-old G11. The RM tripods certainly look good, and with the rotatable base, i will assume the head can be positioned in such a way that the weight shaft can be between any of the two tripod legs when used at 0 degree latitude? Thanks!

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
jmiele
Patron Saint?
*****

Reged: 12/04/10

Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: remuscj]
      #4637093 - 06/13/11 01:57 PM

Remus,

"i will assume the head can be positioned in such a way that the weight shaft can be between any of the two tripod legs when used at 0 degree latitude?"

That is correct. Joe


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Alph
Carpal Tunnel


Reged: 11/23/06

Loc: Melmac
Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: jmiele]
      #4637106 - 06/13/11 02:07 PM

Quote:

The base plate in dovetailed on with 6 set screws. It's greased and yes does rotate 360.. Joe



Can it be rotated while doing the polar alignment?


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
frolinmod
Carpal Tunnel


Reged: 08/06/10

Loc: Southern California
Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: Alph]
      #4637192 - 06/13/11 03:14 PM

Quote:

Can it be rotated while doing the polar alignment?



It can be rotated at any time by first loosening six Allen head set screws. You loosen the screws with an Allen wrench, rotate the plate, then tighten them back up. The top plate rotates smoothly and easily. The screws are distributed around the circumference. Some can be reached with the short side of the wrench and some require the long side of the wrench. Therefore some can be torqued more than others. Probably not a good idea to loosen the set screws with an unbalanced mount sitting on top of the tripod. So I'd say at least balance the mount first.


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Alph
Carpal Tunnel


Reged: 11/23/06

Loc: Melmac
Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: frolinmod]
      #4637378 - 06/13/11 06:14 PM

Quote:

It can be rotated at any time by first loosening six Allen head set screws. You loosen the screws with an Allen wrench, rotate the plate, then tighten them back up. The top plate rotates smoothly and easily. The screws are distributed around the circumference. Some can be reached with the short side of the wrench and some require the long side of the wrench. Therefore some can be torqued more than others. Probably not a good idea to loosen the set screws with an unbalanced mount sitting on top of the tripod. So I'd say at least balance the mount first.



Is the SB tripod any better in this regard?


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
jmiele
Patron Saint?
*****

Reged: 12/04/10

Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: Alph]
      #4637406 - 06/13/11 06:40 PM

Looks like the top plate is similar. The only differences I see from the CG image on the SB site is the built in levelers. They appear to be long threaded rods. They may produce more adjustment not sure.

Joe


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
PascalN
member
*****

Reged: 04/13/08

Loc: Plano, Texas
Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: jmiele]
      #4637565 - 06/13/11 08:35 PM

No. I did not get the levelers. They were not yet available when I ordered mine. Rob was still working out the details. I may get them in the future.

Edited by PascalN (06/13/11 08:43 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
jmiele
Patron Saint?
*****

Reged: 12/04/10

Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: PascalN]
      #4637600 - 06/13/11 09:09 PM

You still have adjustment in the legs anyway. That's where you get the most adjustment. Up to 4" I believe. The levelers give you 1" of fine adjustment.

Thing that most impressed me was the first time I picked it up. These things weigh next to nothing.. Joe


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
M13 Observer
scholastic sledgehammer


Reged: 12/09/06

Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: PascalN]
      #4637950 - 06/14/11 01:06 AM Attachment (49 downloads)

Quote:

No. I did not get the levelers. They were not yet available when I ordered mine. Rob was still working out the details. I may get them in the future.




They are $200 a set of three and worth every penny. Gorgeous works of art which work.


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
PascalN
member
*****

Reged: 04/13/08

Loc: Plano, Texas
Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: M13 Observer]
      #4638199 - 06/14/11 08:38 AM

Oh boy! Now I have to get those levelers.

Thanks for posting the picture and comment.

Pascal


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Nick Black
journeyman
*****

Reged: 05/05/08

Loc: Amarillo, TX
Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: jmiele]
      #4638774 - 06/14/11 02:36 PM

Joe,
Which tripod are you referring to? I picked up a Tri36M from Rob, which is what he recommends for the MX, and the length of the legs is not adjustable.
Nick


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
M13 Observer
scholastic sledgehammer


Reged: 12/09/06

Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: Nick Black]
      #4638813 - 06/14/11 02:56 PM Attachment (50 downloads)

Quote:

Joe,
Which tripod are you referring to? I picked up a Tri36M from Rob, which is what he recommends for the MX, and the length of the legs is not adjustable.
Nick



Yes, you are correct, the legs are not variable length but they can be ordered at almost any length one might want.

The spread of the legs allows the height to be adjusted by over four inches on the 36 inch leg length model. The variable spread of the legs allows the tripod to be leveled over about a 5 inch change in slope. The leg levelers pictured allow a further one inch of adjustment per leg.


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Nick Black
journeyman
*****

Reged: 05/05/08

Loc: Amarillo, TX
Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: M13 Observer]
      #4638841 - 06/14/11 03:20 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Joe,
Which tripod are you referring to? I picked up a Tri36M from Rob, which is what he recommends for the MX, and the length of the legs is not adjustable.
Nick



Yes, you are correct, the legs are not variable length but they can be ordered at almost any length one might want.

The spread of the legs allows the height to be adjusted by over four inches on the 36 inch leg length model. The variable spread of the legs allows the tripod to be leveled over about a 5 inch change in slope. The leg levelers pictured allow a further one inch of adjustment per leg.




Ah, now I understand. Thanks for the clarification.
Nick


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
jmiele
Patron Saint?
*****

Reged: 12/04/10

Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: Nick Black]
      #4639031 - 06/14/11 05:35 PM

You can move the legs in and out by loosening the screw and pulling up on the gold knob. I'm referring to the black spreaders between the tray and the legs. Moving a leg out in essence raises it. Joe

Edit: Sorry I didn't see 13's response before a wrote that

Edited by jmiele (06/14/11 05:36 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
PascalN
member
*****

Reged: 04/13/08

Loc: Plano, Texas
Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: PascalN]
      #4639109 - 06/14/11 06:31 PM

Levelers ordered from Rob Miller. Should get them by beginning of July.

Pascal


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Nick Black
journeyman
*****

Reged: 05/05/08

Loc: Amarillo, TX
Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: jmiele]
      #4639124 - 06/14/11 06:39 PM

Quote:

You can move the legs in and out by loosening the screw and pulling up on the gold knob. I'm referring to the black spreaders between the tray and the legs. Moving a leg out in essence raises it. Joe

Edit: Sorry I didn't see 13's response before a wrote that




Thanks Joe. I was aware you could adjust the stance, but never really considered using that functionality to adjust for slope. I will now!


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
jmiele
Patron Saint?
*****

Reged: 12/04/10

Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: Nick Black]
      #4639392 - 06/14/11 09:49 PM

Nick,You get about 4 inches of adjustment. The levelers add another inch. You will love it!

PascalN, Good deal they are most defiantly worth it. I'm also looking into 10-32 threaded double locking caster as well. Joe


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
M13 Observer
scholastic sledgehammer


Reged: 12/09/06

Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: jmiele]
      #4639537 - 06/14/11 11:25 PM

Quote:

Nick,You get about 4 inches of adjustment. The levelers add another inch. You will love it!

PascalN, Good deal they are most defiantly worth it. I'm also looking into 10-32 threaded double locking caster as well. Joe




Casters? This is one I haven't heard about. Any pics or further info?


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
jmiele
Patron Saint?
*****

Reged: 12/04/10

Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: M13 Observer]
      #4639551 - 06/14/11 11:37 PM

My project not Robs. I found a source for the double locking caster like used to be an option with the ATS Piers. One locks the wheels from rotating 360, the other stop the wheel from turning. Joe

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
M13 Observer
scholastic sledgehammer


Reged: 12/09/06

Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: jmiele]
      #4639607 - 06/15/11 12:39 AM

Quote:

My project not Robs. I found a source for the double locking caster like used to be an option with the ATS Piers. One locks the wheels from rotating 360, the other stop the wheel from turning. Joe




Aaaaahhh! That makes sense in some ways. I am not sure I would want to stress the legs in compression too much. The design is all about tension provided by vertical loading.


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
jmiele
Patron Saint?
*****

Reged: 12/04/10

Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: M13 Observer]
      #4639629 - 06/15/11 12:59 AM

That's a good point as well. This design is light and as a result things need to be just so. To me, the levelers should be required on them. I like that the load is forced straight down onto the pivoting foot. Joe

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
vman69au
journeyman


Reged: 06/20/11

Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: jmiele]
      #4657097 - 06/24/11 09:56 PM

Anyone comment with experience how stable these are for a mount like paramount MX or AP900 compared to a portable pier.

Here is a pic of my current pier and trying to decide if i should get something more portable like Robs tripods but dont want to sacrifice stability.



Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Bowmoreman
Clear enough skies
*****

Reged: 09/11/06

Loc: Bolton, MA
Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: vman69au]
      #4657147 - 06/24/11 10:29 PM

nice rig!

and welcome to CN vman69au!

i really like the lines of MI250's


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
jmiele
Patron Saint?
*****

Reged: 12/04/10

Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: vman69au]
      #4657297 - 06/25/11 12:31 AM

Very nice. Rob's tripods are GREAT! As stable an the AP Pier IME. I had an 8" AP pier. Also, extremely light. The Med is for the MX I think. Did you get a ship date? I know they were assembling the new hand paddles this week. They look very neat. I'm getting one for the ME. Joe

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Dan Crowson
professor emeritus
*****

Reged: 10/08/10

Loc: O'Fallon, MO
Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: jmiele]
      #5681237 - 02/15/13 11:36 AM

I know this is an old thread but I'm not sure on where else to ask. I've tried sending an email to Rob Miller a couple times (the only way to contact him on his site) and I haven't received a reply. Is he still doing this work?

Thanks,

Dan


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
ASTERON
Carpal Tunnel
*****

Reged: 11/24/07

Loc: ISRAEL
Re: Tripod for Paramount MX new [Re: Dan Crowson]
      #5681883 - 02/15/13 04:18 PM

Dan,
Rob Miller is probably trying to establish a new company.
There is another thread in this forum with all the rumors and available info about why he does not respond to any e-mails.
some people claim to have talked to him over the phone and he said he is going to be opening for bussiness by April or May.
Note - these are all second hand information so should be taken with a grain or two of salt.
The facts are that I have been trying to contact him by e-mail for a month now- still no response.

Edited by ASTERON (02/15/13 04:20 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Pages: 1 | 2 | (show all)


Extra information
20 registered and 35 anonymous users are browsing this forum.

Moderator:  Dave M, richard7, bilgebay 

Print Thread

Forum Permissions
      You cannot start new topics
      You cannot reply to topics
      HTML is disabled
      UBBCode is enabled


Thread views: 5042

Jump to

CN Forums Home


Cloudy Nights LLC
Cloudy Nights Sponsor: Astronomics