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Yard Shed Observatory
      #499498 - 07/02/05 02:22 AM

I just finished up my backyard observatory, built in a yard shed from a company called Thinking Outside . I purchased the deluxe version with the small bay window on one end. It added to the wife acceptance factor and made the building more palatable becasue the bay window "was cute".

Anyway, the two features I really like were the doors that can open one all three sides, plus the size, at 11' x 7', seemed much more spacious that the standard 7'x7' rubbermade buildings. And it did go together in just over an hour as advertised, sort of like building a big adult-sized Lego kit!

Here's a few pics:




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Re: Yard Shed Observatory new [Re: JGlover]
      #499503 - 07/02/05 02:28 AM

The bay window:



Interior view:



Side view:



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Re: Yard Shed Observatory new [Re: JGlover]
      #499505 - 07/02/05 02:32 AM

Now, even though it is cloudy here and late at night, I'm going to go sit in my observatory and wait for the clouds to break....ain't I hopeless! LOL

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Re: Yard Shed Observatory new [Re: JGlover]
      #499537 - 07/02/05 04:25 AM

Does the roof come off John? It does look pretty spacious.

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Re: Yard Shed Observatory new [Re: Joel]
      #499550 - 07/02/05 04:52 AM

That is really neat, and the bay window is really cute.

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Re: Yard Shed Observatory new [Re: Carolyn]
      #499689 - 07/02/05 09:25 AM

That is very cool...hmmm? I'd like to know about the roof also, does it open? and if not can it be modified? Looks good anyway. I like the window.

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Re: Yard Shed Observatory new [Re: Grizz]
      #499768 - 07/02/05 10:50 AM

Looks great! Where did you actually buy it from (looks like the manufacturer doesn't sell direct)?

I was just looking at this other thread last night that I think is the same shed, several posts down the OP mentions how he can get half of the roof to slide open...

Hmmmm....hubby was talking the other day about building me an observatory, this might work just as well! Funny when it's the wife that's into the hobby, but the husband still wants to help with the toys and accessories...

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Re: Yard Shed Observatory new [Re: Joel]
      #499942 - 07/02/05 01:09 PM

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Does the roof come off John? It does look pretty spacious.




To answer the roof questions, no it does not come off, but each roo panel has two plastic skylights in it that are removeable. They are really small but i see no reason why they could no be enlarges.

The whole shed goes together quickly with something they call the Easy Bolt system, so the roof itself is not ancheored down at a lot of points. And the fact it is a resin shed, the roof panels, even though tehy are large almost 7'x 8', are not very heavy. I was able to lift them in place with no help. My guess is someone with a little ingenuity might be able to figure as easy way to convert this into a sliding roof type obeservatory for the back half of this shed.

Personally at this point, my observatory satifies two issues.....it gets my scopes out of the middle of the family room (MAJOR point), and it allows me to be up and observing quickly due to those doors on the side. Just pop open the door and step out into the yard with the fully set up scope and you're ready to go.

I've still got to work on issues like cooling the shed in the summer. I saw Chris's post on the colar powered vent fans and am thinking that is going to have to be my next mod to this building as I imiagine it is going to heat up some, though it is quite large inside, 11"x 7", so I'm hoping the sheer size alone will keep it a bit cooler than other sheds. Plus the skylights can also be poppped open to vent the top as well.

All in all, I'm very please with this building.

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Re: Yard Shed Observatory new [Re: Carolyn]
      #499943 - 07/02/05 01:10 PM

Quote:

That is really neat, and the bay window is really cute.




LOL, you sounds just like my wife Carolyn! One nice thing though the bay window and the overhead skylights do let in a little bit of ambient light so the shed is not pitch black inside at night.

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Re: Yard Shed Observatory new [Re: ~Steph~]
      #499953 - 07/02/05 01:17 PM

Quote:

Looks great! Where did you actually buy it from (looks like the manufacturer doesn't sell direct)?

I was just looking at this other thread last night that I think is the same shed, several posts down the OP mentions how he can get half of the roof to slide open...

Hmmmm....hubby was talking the other day about building me an observatory, this might work just as well! Funny when it's the wife that's into the hobby, but the husband still wants to help with the toys and accessories...





Hi Steph,

This shed came from Menard's. The sheds were on sale through next Tuesday here, $799. The one cool thing about this shed also is the company also make a 4.5' extension that can be inserted into the middle....actualy I guess you could ad as many extension modules as you wanted, so as your scope collection grows, you just expand your building!

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Re: Yard Shed Observatory new [Re: JGlover]
      #500331 - 07/02/05 08:00 PM

John, I've looked at those sheds and I'm convinced that the roof can fairly easily be modified to come off.

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Re: Yard Shed Observatory new [Re: miniventures]
      #500627 - 07/03/05 02:42 AM

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John, I've looked at those sheds and I'm convinced that the roof can fairly easily be modified to come off.




I agree Larry. The roof is not attached in many points, except for the center brace that joins the two roof halves. It does not look difficult at all to do some modifications to get one portion of the roof to convert into a sliding roof. But, that's something to think about down the road, at least for me. Right now i'm just going to enjoy my new found space!

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Re: Yard Shed Observatory new [Re: JGlover]
      #500646 - 07/03/05 03:29 AM

I was reading in another forum post here of a guy who hinged his shed roof like yours. You can read all about it with pics here

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Re: Yard Shed Observatory new [Re: Joel]
      #501092 - 07/03/05 01:42 PM

Very nice John
If I was to do it all over again, that's the shed I would have used, it's amazing how fast it feels up with Astro stuff. I have added four wall vents, plus four solar powered roof vents and insulated the ceiling, the temp difference now is 10° max between outside and inside of shed. Next time though, I would use more powerful solar roof vents, the ones I’m using are rather anemic. The wall vents really help by providing a cross flow of air in the shed and the roof insulation alone made a huge impact, before you could actually feel the heat radiating off of the roof panels.

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Re: Yard Shed Observatory new [Re: Chris Schroeder]
      #501515 - 07/03/05 07:55 PM

I used to sell Rubbermaid sheds similar to this one when I worked for Home Depot. They are easily modified. The entire thing is lightweight plastic, and as such it can be cut, bent, sliced, diced, and sawn any way you see fit. The removable skylight can be taken out and then the hole can be enlarged to almost any desirable width. The great thing about this plastic shed is that there is no sense of "load bearing" anywhere in it. In fact, you could remove almost 80% of the entire roof and just leave the attachment points intact to secure the walls. Someone with a little ingenuity and some basic tools could fashion a removable roof and set the assembly into a gasket seal.

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Re: Yard Shed Observatory new [Re: Chris Schroeder]
      #502396 - 07/04/05 02:17 PM

Quote:

Very nice John
If I was to do it all over again, that's the shed I would have used, it's amazing how fast it feels up with Astro stuff. I have added four wall vents, plus four solar powered roof vents and insulated the ceiling, the temp difference now is 10° max between outside and inside of shed. Next time though, I would use more powerful solar roof vents, the ones I’m using are rather anemic. The wall vents really help by providing a cross flow of air in the shed and the roof insulation alone made a huge impact, before you could actually feel the heat radiating off of the roof panels.




I *almost* bought the same shed as you Chris, then I saw this one. What sold me on this shed was the size of it, the interior storage possibilities and the multiple doors to move gear in and out. I'm still considering whether I want to remove one of the roof panels to turn the shed into a sliding roof type of observatory. Right now i'm happy with just setting the gear outside, but when the weather turns a bit colder here in Chicago, the sliding roof option will get serious consideration!

I'm dissappointed to hear the solar fans do not work as you thought they would. They looked like such a good option for cooling the shed. I've got to come up with something here as it does get quite warm inside. Both Home Depot and Menard's keep trying to sell me a solar powered attic vent, but that is designed for a 1200 sq.ft. attic and Im afraid that might suck my scopes out the vent!!

The roof insulation is an excellent idea though and I'm definitely going to do that mod to the shed next weekend. Good luck and your obsevatory does look terrific!!

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Re: Yard Shed Observatory new [Re: JGlover]
      #503003 - 07/04/05 11:49 PM

Thanks for kind comments John, I wouldn't be afraid of having to much venting, I kept adding until I got the desired affect. I do plan on blocking most of it during the winter months. As to winter my idea is to have a small electric heater in the shed during viewing sessions for taking notes and checking star maps and so on while the scope stays nice and cool outside. I have dark panels that I used last winter when I did my viewing form the driveway, and they do a nice job of blocking the wind as well. So my plan this winter is to set them around the door end of the shed to block all direct wind and still have a warm room in the shed.

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Re: Yard Shed Observatory new [Re: Chris Schroeder]
      #503065 - 07/05/05 01:43 AM

Quote:

Thanks for kind comments John, I wouldn't be afraid of having to much venting, I kept adding until I got the desired affect. I do plan on blocking most of it during the winter months. As to winter my idea is to have a small electric heater in the shed during viewing sessions for taking notes and checking star maps and so on while the scope stays nice and cool outside. I have dark panels that I used last winter when I did my viewing form the driveway, and they do a nice job of blocking the wind as well. So my plan this winter is to set them around the door end of the shed to block all direct wind and still have a warm room in the shed.




I'm debating my power options right now. I've current got a battery jump start pack and a Radio Shack DC/AC inverter to power my laptop, but I'm going to need some kind of 110v eventually for the winter months as well. The battery will not have nowhere near enough power to run any kind of heater off the inverter. I did find one smaller type of solar powered vent fan I'm considering. It looks a bit more robust and moves a little more air so hopefully it will do a decent job. I plan to install a 4" dryer vent on the opposite side of the building from the fan to get some cross through ventilation to help move the hot air out of the building.

I've thought about dark panels as well. When I opne the front doors on my building they face directly out into the street, so I get a direct blast of headlights every time a car goes by. I didn't consider this when I sited the building but it really would not have matter as the curret location is the only really level spot in my yard...anywhere else would have required some serious earth moving. But a set of dark sky panels will easily solve this.

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Re: Yard Shed Observatory new [Re: JGlover]
      #503180 - 07/05/05 06:45 AM

John, for heat, what about a propane heater? I've seen some heaters in the past that screw on to a propane bottle and they blast out lots of heat. I would think that would be warmer and cheaper than electric too.

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Re: Yard Shed Observatory new [Re: Joel]
      #503182 - 07/05/05 06:50 AM

This is what I have seen and they are very warm.

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