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Simon S
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Reged: 01/07/07

Loc: Crawley West Sussex UK
Re: Leitz and Leica new [Re: FrankL]
      #5232675 - 05/21/12 03:23 PM

Now I'm confused Frank
It's not a coated example, serial number 255688.


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Pinewood
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Reged: 12/07/04

Loc: 40.77638º N 73.982652 W
Re: Leitz and Leica new [Re: Simon S]
      #5232717 - 05/21/12 03:47 PM Attachment (39 downloads)

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Could someone confirm the ID of these binoculars please.
Although they are not marked, are they B&L zephyr's?
Only other options I can see are a Jesub or Jiedd?



Simon,
Before WW II, B&L, produced a cheaper and heavier line of binoculars. I have an uncoated centre focus 7x35, made before 1942. It is uncoated and not a Zephyr. Aside from the "7x35," the markings are the same as yours. It is noticeably heavier than my 7x35 Zephyr.
I know it is pre-1942, because it was lent to the U.S. Navy, and bear Navy markings and the name of the lender.
Sorry but I do not have a digital camera, only an iPod Touch.

Happy collecting,
Arthur Pinewood


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Pinewood
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Reged: 12/07/04

Loc: 40.77638º N 73.982652 W
Re: Leitz and Leica new [Re: Pinewood]
      #5232727 - 05/21/12 03:53 PM Attachment (39 downloads)

Hello,

Let's try that with the markings, right side up.

Arthur


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Simon S
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Re: Leitz and Leica new [Re: Pinewood]
      #5232741 - 05/21/12 04:02 PM

Thanks Arthur, so it could indeed be a Jesub or Jiedd model.
Both are central focus 6x30's
The afore mentioned models weighed 19.5 oz and this model I have weighs ~ 21 oz.
It does have DES pat 83.934 stamped on the hinge cover so I will have a rummage on the net.


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Pinewood
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Reged: 12/07/04

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Re: Leitz and Leica new [Re: Simon S]
      #5232745 - 05/21/12 04:05 PM

Quote:

Thanks Arthur, so it could indeed be a Jesub or Jiedd model.
Both are central focus 6x30's





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Arthur


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Simon S
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Re: Leitz and Leica new [Re: Pinewood]
      #5232776 - 05/21/12 04:25 PM

According to R.C Gregory's book "Notes on binoculars and their use".

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Pinewood
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B&L binoculars new [Re: Simon S]
      #5232779 - 05/21/12 04:27 PM

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According to R.C Gregory's book "Notes on binoculars and their use".



Simon,

Would those be catalog designations?

Happy collecting,
Arthur


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Simon S
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Re: B&L binoculars new [Re: Pinewood]
      #5232802 - 05/21/12 04:37 PM

According to the book. There are many models I have never heard of.

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brentwood
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Re: B&L binoculars new [Re: Simon S]
      #5232822 - 05/21/12 04:49 PM

Sorry, I did not notice that they were not IF! The most noticeable feature of the Zephyr that I have is the lightweight. All the WW2 6x30 models I have are much heavier and the Canadian REL version is heavier again. I think to swing that one around with the strap would make quite an effective weapon!

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FrankL
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Reged: 07/30/09

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Re: B&L binoculars new [Re: brentwood]
      #5232887 - 05/21/12 05:20 PM

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The most noticeable feature of the Zephyr that I have is the lightweight.


I'd like to know what distinguishes Zephyrs from previous models. For sure, one thing is weight.

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KennyJ
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Re: B&L binoculars new [Re: FrankL]
      #5232939 - 05/21/12 05:56 PM

Frank,

One noticeable feature is the data plate on the predecessors did not include the name "Zephyr" :-)

Kenny


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Pinewood
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Re: B&L Zephyr and not Zephyr binoculars new [Re: FrankL]
      #5232966 - 05/21/12 06:12 PM

Quote:

[I'd like to know what distinguishes Zephyrs from previous models. For sure, one thing is weight.



Hello Frank,

I have not noticed any optical difference, beyond coating, since my Zephyr is coated, between my two B&L 7x35 binoculars. I suspect that reduced weight was the only difference, since their advertisements referred to the Zephyrs as "featherweight," if I recall correctly.

Happy collecting,
Arthur Pinewood


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FrankL
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Re: B&L Zephyr and not Zephyr binoculars new [Re: Pinewood]
      #5233109 - 05/21/12 07:48 PM

Regarding Zephyr weight it's interesting that my Rochester 7X35 Zephyr is 112 grams lighter than my Japan made one.

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Jae
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Foggy prism on vintage - 60 yrs old ? new [Re: FrankL]
      #5233151 - 05/21/12 08:20 PM

Question - not sure if this shouldn't be in the broader forum but:

I've got a pair of small vintage binculars and the eyepieces and lenses are clear but the prism looks a bit foggy. They were accessible so I tried cleaning them with alchohol as well as acetone and no effect. It doesn't look like fungus or anything, just cloudy. Could there be some kind of micro fungus that just clouds the prism ?


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FrankL
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Reged: 07/30/09

Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Re: Foggy prism on vintage - 60 yrs old ? new [Re: Jae]
      #5233170 - 05/21/12 08:37 PM

Worst case scenario it's some kind of fungus or haze which has penetrated the glass - if so, cleaning is very difficult and would involve polishing the glass which may alter optical properties. However, more likely all that is needed is a stronger/different cleaning agent. I'd try Windex and if that fails Varsol (solvent). Even if surfaces are AR coated these cleaners will not hurt them.

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Jae
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Re: Foggy prism on vintage - 60 yrs old ? new [Re: FrankL]
      #5234294 - 05/22/12 03:45 PM

Thanks - will try different solvents and see !

Yep, it started to come out so I just took the prisms out and washed them in soap and water. Got the job done.

Edited by Jae (05/23/12 07:12 AM)


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Simon S
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Re: Foggy prism on vintage - 60 yrs old ? new [Re: Jae]
      #5235933 - 05/23/12 03:26 PM

What do the experts think to this Zeiss?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CARL-ZEISS-JENA-BINOCULARS-8x50-WELL-USED-CLASSIC-but-REQUIRE-CLEANING-/180881822302?pt=UK_Photography_Binoculars_Monoculars&hash=item2a1d65925e


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FrankL
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Reged: 07/30/09

Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Re: Foggy prism on vintage - 60 yrs old ? new [Re: Simon S]
      #5235944 - 05/23/12 03:37 PM

Looks pretty phoney baloney to me. Not an 8X50 for sure. The Zeiss markings don't look genuine and prism plate screws look too big. Could be a Zeiss DF 6X with unoriginal screws and re-done false markings on prism plates

Edited by FrankL (05/23/12 03:38 PM)


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brentwood
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Re: Foggy prism on vintage - 60 yrs old ? [Re: FrankL]
      #5236025 - 05/23/12 04:27 PM

I think those must be Chinese millimetres!

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Pinewood
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Reged: 12/07/04

Loc: 40.77638º N 73.982652 W
Re: Foggy prism on vintage - 60 yrs old ? [Re: Simon S]
      #5236063 - 05/23/12 04:50 PM

Quote:

What do the experts think to this Zeiss?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CARL-ZEISS-JENA-BINOCULARS-8x50-WELL-USED-CLASSIC-but-REQUIRE-CLEANING-/180881822302?pt=UK_Photography_Binoculars_Monoculars&hash=item2a1d65925e




Hello,
At least the vendor measured the objectives and gave a straight answer to the query.

Happy collecting,
Arthur Pinewood


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