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Bensi
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Reged: 02/22/09

Loc: Italy, Near Rome
Re: Goerz 9x20 Army - 1906 new [Re: Simon S]
      #5320765 - 07/16/12 05:28 PM

Yes Simon !!!
Ebay auction.
Great binos and great story.
bye
Marco


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BillC
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Reged: 06/04/04

Loc: Lake Stevens, WA, USA
Re: Goerz 9x20 Army - 1906 new [Re: Bensi]
      #5320914 - 07/16/12 07:17 PM

"Yes ..second solution.. collimate only by prism adjustment ..but very easy!"

And the beat goes on.

That's a BEAUTIFUL piece of history!

The only time I have had the time AND money to collect, I was knee deep in ATMJ; I regret that!

Marco: Do you know Claudio Manetti?

BillC


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Philip Levine
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Loc: near Boston, MA
Re: Goerz 9x20 Army - 1906 new [Re: Bensi]
      #5321021 - 07/16/12 08:36 PM

Hi Marco,
thanks for posting the photos, very interesting to see how these prisms are secured.
the photos you and Simon have posted in the past have encouraged me to open, clean, and reseat prisms in some older binos.
Phil


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mercedes_sl1970
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Re: Goerz 9x20 Army - 1906 new [Re: Bensi]
      #5321152 - 07/16/12 10:47 PM

Quote:

Th esecret of Goerz Army 9x20 ....the alluminium chassis and the very easy system of cleaning prisms and lens.




Hi Marco

These Goerz binoculars definitely have character! The easy access is very similar to how the Wollensak 6x30 WWII binoculars are constructed.

Regards

Andrew


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Bensi
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Reged: 02/22/09

Loc: Italy, Near Rome
Re: Goerz 9x20 Army - 1906 new [Re: BillC]
      #5321344 - 07/17/12 01:57 AM Attachment (48 downloads)

Yes, I knew Claudio Manetti here in my town and had a Sard 6 x 42.I had brought with me the San Giorgio 8,5x30 and put them in comparison ...SARD 6x 190m/1000 and SG MEGA 8,5x 170m/1000.I send you a picture of that day.

Edited by Bensi (07/17/12 01:59 AM)


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Bensi
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Re: Goerz 9x20 Army - 1906 new [Re: mercedes_sl1970]
      #5321357 - 07/17/12 02:10 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Th esecret of Goerz Army 9x20 ....the alluminium chassis and the very easy system of cleaning prisms and lens.




Hi Marco

These Goerz binoculars definitely have character! The easy access is very similar to how the Wollensak 6x30 WWII binoculars are constructed.

Regards

Andrew




Yes !!!

You are absolutely right!
The Wollensack I miss in the collection, but I hope to get one, soon.

bye Marco


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potts34
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Reged: 12/09/08

Loc: Derbyshire , England
Re: Goerz 9x20 Army - 1906 new [Re: Bensi]
      #5326875 - 07/20/12 12:57 PM

Hi guys just thought I'd drop in and see what you were all up to, glad to see that on reading back through the thread that the old guard is till here and still finding interesting binoculars........I've had a very lean time binocular wise for about a year or so and works not been too good(NHS)so have been watching the pennies just in case!
Recently went to Spain for our 25th wedding anniversary and realised I'd forgot to take a pair of binoculars " don't worry says she , you'll probably get a pair on one one the car boots" on the first one we visited she spied an old pair of Boots 8x 30's at 20 Euro so way over priced a few stalls on I spied an old leather case and inside what at first looked like a French pair c 1920, on removing them from the case a quick glance showed HENSOLDT WETZLAR on one prism plate and & LONDON MOD 1914 on the other plate, with 12x on hinge arm adjacent to IPD scale...the IPD also has a bottom hinge lock ring with STEREOR on it.
The view is great and clear and condition is very good, they are one of those pairs that you almost don't want to take apart to clean as they are almost 100% but not quite...I'll post pics asap


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Simon S
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Reged: 01/07/07

Loc: Crawley West Sussex UK
Re: Goerz 9x20 Army - 1906 new [Re: potts34]
      #5327096 - 07/20/12 03:44 PM

Welcome back Potts we are all still collecting like room is not a problem.

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potts34
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Reged: 12/09/08

Loc: Derbyshire , England
Re: Goerz 9x20 Army - 1906 new [Re: Simon S]
      #5327106 - 07/20/12 03:50 PM

Hmm! I know what you mean about space as many on here I collect other items and have thinned out all my collections a little to provide space and funds for other things including new items for the collections.
These are 12 x 20 I think they are mentioned in on of the articles on the Europa site, I can't find any images or anything else about them, I'll try and take some pics tomorrow or Sunday, still unsure as to strip and clean or not...I think I'll renovate the case though and practice my leather working if nothing else!

I used them on the way back from Spain to watch the dolphins and at least one possibly two? beaked whales!


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alsendk
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Reged: 04/23/11

Loc: Denmark
Re: Goerz 9x20 Army - 1906 new [Re: potts34]
      #5327965 - 07/21/12 09:50 AM

Good to see one of the great collectors of vintage binoculars back to forum, you have have been missed, so a newcoming is welcoming you back
greetings
Allan


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potts34
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Reged: 12/09/08

Loc: Derbyshire , England
Re: Goerz 9x20 Army - 1906 new [Re: alsendk]
      #5328055 - 07/21/12 10:57 AM

Ok guys here we are, the markings, scales etc are all inlaid in silver wire, objective lenses are 20mm diameter;




Edited by potts34 (07/21/12 12:13 PM)


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potts34
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Reged: 12/09/08

Loc: Derbyshire , England
Re: Goerz 9x20 Army - 1906 new [Re: potts34]
      #5328060 - 07/21/12 10:59 AM

And a few more;
underside of hinge arms




number on iside of objective housing


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rydberg
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Reged: 02/25/04

Loc: Richmond, KY, USA
New quasi vintage Japanese wide angle new [Re: potts34]
      #5330165 - 07/22/12 06:01 PM Attachment (40 downloads)

Found another wide angle semi vintage Japanese binoculars. It is JC Penney branded. FOV nominal: 607feet @ 1000. The body is the "american" style (no removable barrels). Coating of the objectives appears MgFl (tipical bluish hue). Mechanically in good shape (tight but smooth focus), single image ( ). Stamped Japan on the front plate (s/n S-12007). J-B191
(JB 191: Seiwa Optical Co., Ltd., Wako-Shi
or Yoko Sangyo Co. Ltd)
I want to say mid seventies. Any clues?
Thanks!
Marco


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rydberg
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Re: New quasi vintage Japanese wide angle new [Re: rydberg]
      #5330168 - 07/22/12 06:03 PM Attachment (47 downloads)

The eyepiece side.
Marco


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SMark
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Reged: 08/29/11

Loc: Atlanta, GA USA
Re: New quasi vintage Japanese wide angle new [Re: rydberg]
      #5330623 - 07/22/12 11:35 PM

That one is also very similar to my Wards Binocular that has no JB number on it. Perhaps mine then is also a JB 191...?

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Simon S
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Reged: 01/07/07

Loc: Crawley West Sussex UK
Re: New quasi vintage Japanese wide angle new [Re: SMark]
      #5331290 - 07/23/12 01:04 PM Attachment (46 downloads)

Today I delved into the unknowns of the roof prism. I pair small money for a mint Zeiss 8x32 with a cloudy right hand scope.
On disassembly it was obvious that water had got into the binocular with evidence of rust forming on the focusing mechanism. Cleaning the prisms is far harder on these binoculars as some of the surfaces are out of reach.


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Simon S
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Re: New quasi vintage Japanese wide angle new [Re: Simon S]
      #5331294 - 07/23/12 01:05 PM Attachment (51 downloads)

The internals reveal the rust forming on the focus arm.

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Simon S
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Re: New quasi vintage Japanese wide angle new [Re: Simon S]
      #5331297 - 07/23/12 01:07 PM Attachment (50 downloads)

And the prism mechanism, far more rugged than other Japanese examples I have seen...

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Simon S
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Re: New quasi vintage Japanese wide angle [Re: Simon S]
      #5331314 - 07/23/12 01:18 PM Attachment (46 downloads)

This little crescent shaped bracket sits in a grove in the binocular body, and is a sod to line up on reassembly.
The optical performance is similar to a Jenoptem 8x30 but not a wide, and having the same colour cast from the T3M coatings.


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potts34
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Reged: 12/09/08

Loc: Derbyshire , England
Re: New quasi vintage Japanese wide angle [Re: Simon S]
      #5331371 - 07/23/12 01:48 PM

they look mint Simon, I've no doubt when you've done your magic they'll be just fine & dandy!

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