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rydberg
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Re: From a Box of Vintage Junk... new [Re: SMark]
      #5687012 - 02/18/13 02:16 PM

Is the statement: "I hate you..." too strong?
You must have lived a very virtuous former life
Marco


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SMark
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Re: From a Box of Vintage Junk... new [Re: rydberg]
      #5687018 - 02/18/13 02:21 PM

Quote:

Is the statement: "I hate you..." too strong?
You must have lived a very virtuous former life
Marco




No. Definitely NOT too strong...

The worst part is that the seller re-listed the auction 4 times lowering the price each time and nobody would bid. What lured me in was simply the word "binoculars" in the title at the very end. And the binocular pics were also the last loaded into the gallery. Everything else was actually junk and completely worthless as far as I can tell...


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Simon S
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Re: From a Box of Vintage Junk... new [Re: SMark]
      #5687039 - 02/18/13 02:38 PM

Another good Zeiss, uncoated at not that bright. But good otherwise.

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binman
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Reged: 09/16/08

Loc: UK
Re: From a Box of Vintage Junk... new [Re: Simon S]
      #5694884 - 02/22/13 02:44 PM Attachment (29 downloads)

i recently picked up a pair carl zeiss "silvamar" 6x30's of i think 1920's vintage. the binoculars were in good collumation but unfortunately are hazey and dusty inside. despite this i can see they would make a lovely set if cleaned. i was wondering if anyone has had any success taking these apart for cleaning of the prisms and weather the prisms are "punched" in place?
anyway heres a picture of them, paid 20 for them at an antiques fair.


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Simon S
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Re: From a Box of Vintage Junk... new [Re: binman]
      #5695005 - 02/22/13 03:40 PM

They come apart with a good strap wrench, removing all the black sealent might also me necessary. The prisms are most likely punched into position but they will come out ok. You must however be absolutely sure you get them back in correctly, Also the objectives need to be tightened to the position they were originally.

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binman
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Re: From a Box of Vintage Junk... new [Re: Simon S]
      #5695048 - 02/22/13 03:59 PM

i've stripped and cleaned a few before but only if the prisms are punched as it seems they easier to put back correctly, especially if you just clean one at a time. at least then you know which one needs adjusting.
i had a quick look at them today, managed to undo the front objective bell and remove the front prism plate on one side (marked everything) but put them back together without doing anything. they're still in collumation so the objective went back as it was.
the thing i was worried about is removing the oculars and there housing? i did search for hidden locking screws with a magnet but could find none? i guess they're just tight? its difficult to see how i'de get a good purchase on the tubes with the strap wrench with the focusing part still attached? i cant see how to remove it?
i did remove the eyecups and a brass band covering some locking screws but all they do is loosen the knurled focusing ring


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binman
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Re: From a Box of Vintage Junk... new [Re: binman]
      #5698148 - 02/24/13 11:59 AM Attachment (47 downloads)

not sure what these are? British, military, dated 1942 found at a boot sale

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binman
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Re: From a Box of Vintage Junk... new [Re: binman]
      #5698149 - 02/24/13 12:02 PM Attachment (25 downloads)

another photo showing detail on the right hand prism plate

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Simon S
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Re: From a Box of Vintage Junk... new [Re: binman]
      #5698248 - 02/24/13 01:15 PM

Watson Bakers. Yes British.

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binman
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Re: From a Box of Vintage Junk... new [Re: Simon S]
      #5698260 - 02/24/13 01:23 PM

cheers Simon

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Bensi
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Kern 6x24 1929 and case ..of Capitaine Martel Jean new [Re: binman]
      #5736733 - 03/16/13 05:46 PM Attachment (29 downloads)

I apologize if I do not suffer too much. I follow you forever!
I send you a picture of my Kern of 1929 which was devoid of the housing. I bought it in france original Kern with a surprise in its owner Captain Jean Martel. A piece of cake history

Bye


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Bensi
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Re: Kern 6x24 1929 and case ..of Capitaine Martel Jean new [Re: Bensi]
      #5736739 - 03/16/13 05:48 PM Attachment (18 downloads)

Case Kern ...

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Bensi
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Filotecnica Salmoiraghi 1910 Artiglieria Italiana new [Re: Bensi]
      #5736759 - 03/16/13 05:55 PM Attachment (26 downloads)

This small binoculars Italian was supplied by Italian Artillery Mountains. It was a small pair of binoculars, only 3.5 x38 and Galilean. It cost 55 lire in 1910. I found the catalog of 1910 which lists all binoculars Filotecnica, both civilian and military with prices in LIRE period.

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Bensi
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Re: Filotecnica Salmoiraghi 1910 Artiglieria Italiana new [Re: Bensi]
      #5736761 - 03/16/13 05:55 PM Attachment (20 downloads)

another photo

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Bensi
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Re: Filotecnica Salmoiraghi 1910 Artiglieria Italiana new [Re: Bensi]
      #5736766 - 03/16/13 05:56 PM Attachment (25 downloads)

Binoculars open..

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SMark
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Re: Filotecnica Salmoiraghi 1910 Artiglieria Italiana new [Re: Bensi]
      #5753146 - 03/24/13 01:55 AM

I just received what appears to be a military 7x50, but there are no markings on the binocular itself to say what model it is. The case says that it's a Bausch & Lomb, but all the binocular says that it has coated optics. I'm guessing that it's a B&L Mk 28, but that's just a guess. There is no reticle on either side. What insight can y'all give me on this?





The lenses are in very good shape and even though collimation isn't perfect I can still merge images fairly easy. I got it for a steal so I can't complain too much...


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Pinewood
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Re: Filotecnica Salmoiraghi 1910 Artiglieria Italiana new [Re: SMark]
      #5753827 - 03/24/13 12:17 PM

Hello Smark,

The case and binocular may go together but are there any other clues.? Is the polarizing set Navy or Army? Is the case leather, has it any other marking on it? Mark 28's often came with a rubberized case by Hood. My Mark 28 does have four screws for each prism plate, but the original screws are Philips head and are properly blackened. It does look like those prism plates have been worked over, maybe to obscure the original markings.

Happy collecting,
Arthur Pinewood


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SMark
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B. & L. Mk. 28? new [Re: Pinewood]
      #5755250 - 03/24/13 11:53 PM

The filter says USN, so it's Navy. The case has that wonderful smell of rubber , and yes it's made by Hood. It looks like the prism plates have been worked, but then that "Coated Optics" label that is on top of it all. It is pretty clear that there has been some sort of maintenance done on it previously because all the notches on the objective lens retaining rings have markings that indicate use. But I find no other clues as to manufacture. There was a haze on the inside of the objective lenses that I have been able to clean off, so the images are pretty nice. The alignment didn't seem that bad at first, but I now see a slight image rotation on one side. I think that is why I'm starting to get a headache.

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Pinewood
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Re: B. & L. Mk. 28? new [Re: SMark]
      #5755552 - 03/25/13 06:25 AM

Hello Smark,

We are now reasonably certain that it was US Navy, but there were a lot of similar binoculars see:
http://home.europa.com/~telscope/us44bnoc.txt
I know that one model of the Spencer 7x50 came with a hood case. Anyway, case and hood may not have been together, over seventy years. It might have been an earlier model, which was coated after delivery to the Navy, or a binocular that was recoated after some sailor wiped off the coatings.

A nice find.

Happy collecting,
Arthur Pinewood


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David E
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Re: B. & L. Mk. 28? new [Re: SMark]
      #5765313 - 03/29/13 05:07 PM Attachment (37 downloads)

Today I picked up a nice old pair of Jason 6x18 EWA porroprism binoculars (578' at 1000yds). They are a bit shop worn, but focus well and are collimated. The stats: Jason model 194 6x18 extra wide angle with "exclusive UVC optics", made in Japan with JTII sticker still attached, metal body, center focus, with caps and case.

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