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Current Meade ETX-125...
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If anyone gets the brilliant idea to stock up on the ETX-125s that are few but out there, be warned that they are not like the older versions. I bought a used 125 tube a few weeks ago, you know, the way they were years ago- glossy and beautiful- with that nice elegant metal screw-on cap. I took it out and it was typical ETX optics, sharp with a collimation that was perfect on both sides. It happened to be in excellent shape, almost new, in fact. Great for me because these things are kept in my living room. I'm so happy I bought it and I'll tell you why.
Knowing that the ETX-125s are now a thing of the past, I searched high and low and found one, ordered it, but when it came, it immediately struck me as a toy compared to the older models (I've had 2 in years past, but hated the mechanics which is why I no longer have them). The new one I was going to have Doc Clay supercharge and enjoy maybe in a glass case in my place somewhere. After all, the ETX was instrumental in getting many folks into astronomy and keeping them there with the superior optics. The model I received has already been sent back today- I also received it today- that's how much I wanted the piece of *BLEEP* away from me. I know it sounds overdramatic but I was really upset that the mighty ETX-125 truly is no more. I was so happy the other day finding it online and knowing that I would own a nice new one- sort of a piece of history-
I held the tube of the used one up to the new one and even my wife goes, "Ugg!" The beauty of the old tubes is something to enjoy along with the optics. The color of the new one was, well, different and dull. Even the cap was a plastic excuse for a cap. The body of the mount was toyish and goofy.
I didn't take any pics- it was at work that I thought of giving the heads up since I am quite sure I'm not the only genius out there.
Here is a pic of my "used" one.
Chris
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Re: Current Meade ETX-125...
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#5049357 - 02/01/12 07:49 AM
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Thanks for the report!
I didn't know that new ETX-125's were being produced. Sounds like the old ones are destined to become classics.
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Re: Current Meade ETX-125...
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#5049762 - 02/01/12 12:30 PM
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Yeah, they don't make that old anodized aluminum tube anymore. The new tube sounds like a tin can when you tap on it and they are doing that on the high end stuff I see. I got the new LS8 last year and wondered why they went this way. I still have it as it works well, but the fit and finish of my older 125 and 90 ETX is still a beautiful instrument. Both of mine were made in the US before the moved to Mexico.
Your scope looks really nice, did you take it off the fork mount and remount it.....looks like.
Wow, you have a LX200.....sweet:)
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Re: Current Meade ETX-125...
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#5050059 - 02/01/12 03:34 PM
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So what is the issue? You don't really give any details just that you didn't like it. Ok, maybe the metal front cover.
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I have a late production ETX-125PE. I absolutely love it. Wonderful visual scope.
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#5051589 - 02/02/12 12:23 PM
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I think they started to produce the cheap cheesy-looking ones when the price went from $1,100, I recall paying years ago, to the current $650. I should have known that something was amiss with that price. I was just so excited. I always regret not having grabbed the Meade 7" Mak brand new before they discontinued it, even though I was lucky enough to aquire one that was in excellent condition. There's just something about having something since the beginning of its life so you know its entire history.
And you are correct. The ETX-125 will become a classic. Especially if they discontinue the entire ETX line.
Thanks, Chris
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I hope you were lucky enough to get the glossy-tubed LS-8, if they had it- I am not too familiar. They can have that rough-textured tube. Felt it last year at NEAF and did not like it.
No, I bought the tube only, but that was before I had known about the demise of the 125. I would have looked for a whole one if I had known...
Yes, I have two LX200s. Sometimes, I piggyback the ETX just for fun. Check this out:
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Re: Current Meade ETX-125...
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#5051621 - 02/02/12 12:40 PM
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I don't know why I didn't think to take images of the scope before I packed it back up. It was just that I was running a million errands that day and then had to go to work and...
I was struck by its cheapness as soon as I lifted it out of its packaging. From the font of the white print to the cheap lens cover to the overall look and feel of it compared to the original. I just immediately got kind of *BLEEP*.
It wasn't until later in the evening that I realized how much I wished someone else had given me a heads up. After all, I had to pay for shipping back to the store, (even though I am only miles from the place) and maybe a restocking fee of 10%, all adding up to about $120!
It should be noted that if you have never owned an ETX before, you probably won't be bothered by this model. It's only the die-hard Meade/ETX fans that will immediately notice. I sometimes think of all the great moments of opening those big huge boxes with all of the brand new LX200s I have received over the years (I'm a HUGE LX200 fanatic, as I have used them without problem or glitch for years) and I imagine the absolute heart attack I would have if I opened the box and discovered that textured tube. It would go right back at lightening speed!
Thanks, Chris
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Re: Current Meade ETX-125...
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#5051623 - 02/02/12 12:40 PM
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That's a beauty. I mainly use my Televue Bino-vue with 24mm Pans also. It's really enjoyable, and difficult to believe it's only 125mm. Hence, the MIGHTY ETX!
Take care of that telescope!
Thanks, Chris
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Re: Current Meade ETX-125...
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#5053977 - 02/03/12 07:01 PM
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I recently bought an ETX-125 on a lark. It was sitting for over ten years in someone's house doing nothing. One day it fell, and the fork mount broke. They considered it a total loss and dumped it on Craigslist for 40 dollars. I am not making this up.
As far as I was concerned, breaking the tube off the fork mount was the equivalent of fixing it. It's definitely one of the early models, optics made in the USA with a metal screw cap.
And the optics? Beautiful. Perfectly collimated. It's become my primary lunar imaging OTA and it's been a lot of fun imaging Jupiter with it too.
I'm not a big fan of Meade but I have to concede that the early Meade ETX-125 is destined to be considered a classic.
Now, how am I going to find an ETX-90 OTA for 20 bucks?
P
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Re: Current Meade ETX-125...
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#5054132 - 02/03/12 08:49 PM
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Chris, certainly is a shame that they appear to have slipped so. Keeping prices down in the current economy is a necessity, but so is keeping reasonable standards - the two are not mutually incompatible.
I wonder how many others have been returned due to the appearances you describe.
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Re: Current Meade ETX-125...
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#5054246 - 02/03/12 10:24 PM
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So if I'm looking for one of these "classics" on the used market, what should I be looking for as opposed to the more recent models?
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Re: Current Meade ETX-125...
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#5054287 - 02/03/12 10:54 PM
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Whoa where have I been? No more ETX for real? I mean what's changed? That's a shame.
Ha, just realized my 900th post. I haven't been on CN for a while. Pardon my self amusement.
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Re: Current Meade ETX-125...
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#5054535 - 02/04/12 03:10 AM Attachment (47 downloads)
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Chris, I bought a new ETX-125AT about six months ago; I used to own an ETX-125 many years ago, which I sold, so I am familiar with what you mean by metal cap and stuff. To me, new one looks as solid as the old one, with the exception of plastic cap. New one came with #884 tripod, which is quite sturdy compared to the flimsy old one. Optically, new one is little better than the old one since UHTC comes standard these days; plus the new one came with an Audiostar. As goes the OTA color, I would think color shading may have changed a bit over the years just by changes in manufacturing processes; but I didn't notice the change (see pic). Attached is a pic of the new one; I have beefed it up a bit with diagonal, bigger eye piece, weight balance, etc. Few questions; was yours AT with Audiostar and #884 tripod? I feel you may have sent yours back bit prematurely; not sure if you looked through the telescope for optics quality?
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Re: Current Meade ETX-125...
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#5054884 - 02/04/12 11:03 AM
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breaking the tube off the fork mount was the equivalent of fixing it.
This is so funny.
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Re: Current Meade ETX-125...
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#5054892 - 02/04/12 11:05 AM
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Maybe they know what they are doing with all of this. Maybe us die-hards are just resistant, I don't know.
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#5054900 - 02/04/12 11:08 AM
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This model will do. I mean, there's nothing wrong with it for $650. It will probably do the same thing the original will do. It's a matter of whether or not you want the REAL ETX-125. I can tell you that if one buys this new one for his child, the child is not going to care which one it is.
To answer your question specifically though, I would probably look for the metal cap.
Thanks, Chris
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#5054906 - 02/04/12 11:10 AM
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Just the 125 so far.
And congratulations!
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#5054971 - 02/04/12 11:43 AM
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Chris, I bought a new ETX-125AT about six months ago; I used to own an ETX-125 many years ago, which I sold, so I am familiar with what you mean by metal cap and stuff. To me, new one looks as solid as the old one, with the exception of plastic cap. New one came with #884 tripod, which is quite sturdy compared to the flimsy old one. Optically, new one is little better than the old one since UHTC comes standard these days; plus the new one came with an Audiostar. As goes the OTA color, I would think color shading may have changed a bit over the years just by changes in manufacturing processes; but I didn't notice the change (see pic). Attached is a pic of the new one; I have beefed it up a bit with diagonal, bigger eye piece, weight balance, etc. Few questions; was yours AT with Audiostar and #884 tripod? I feel you may have sent yours back bit prematurely; not sure if you looked through the telescope for optics quality?
Please don't get me wrong. I am not saying this one was worse than the original. My point was that it was not the same one. Last weekend we went to this fine place called the Cradle of Aviation Museum on Long Island. There were exhibits that portrayed, well, so many interestings things from the past that it is difficult to focus on one, but generally speaking, for me, the ones that specified that what you are enjoying are originals, not replicas, were much more satisfying and thought-provoking. If I know that that object is the ACTUAL one that was ACTUALLY there a hundred years ago, I will stare at it and even try to extract fingerprints in the wood and intensely visualize it in the hands of the man that was using it to say, ascertain what attitude it should be at to produce the most lift. -A student of history will always appreciate the original Declaration of Independence more than a replica. Yet just anyone who does not really care will just glance at it and walk by.
I guess with this in mind, I would like to have the original ETX-125 from Meade's R&D department from about 1995!
But the point was that I was hoping for the ETX (replica, I know, but the best we can do) that so many people found astronomy with. I could picture them telling their son to unscrew the metal cap while they set up the tripod. Not popping off the light plastic cap. And I could see the reflection of the smile in the violet tube. This new one can't show it. Little things like that. It's just a personal preference that I have a replica of the original, not some excuse for an original. That said, the new one is only $650 and is, as I mentioned, perfectly fine. Just not for me, and others who are looking for the real ETX-125. I can't tell you how many times a heads-up or some kind of info that someone took the trouble to share has assisted me in some way while reading these forums. I am always happy to give back if I can.
I have to disagree with you that the new one looks as solid as the old one, because I held them up together and it was like a slap in the face. I could not have kept that scope a second longer. Knock on the old one and knock on the new one. -And don't forget that even a seemingly little thing like a lens cap can become a big thing if you are transporting it and the cheap one comes off in transit and the edge slides into the meniscus. And you have to admit that it can come off VERY easily. The old one will NEVER, EVER, no matter what you do, you will NEVER get that thing to come off without you WANTING it to come off. Since the ETX is primarily a portable telescope, this should be deemed an important consideration as it will be bounced around a lot.
Yes, the new one came with the 884, which is the same nice tripod as the old. I did not unwrap the Autostar to see which it was, but the audiostar I would not have wanted.
As I said, the optics were probably the same, but who knows if they changed glue or glass or plastics or whatever. I mean, they have changed plenty of thing you CAN see. I personally would rather not have UHTC because the old ones didn't.
That is a very nice setup you have!
Thank you very much for your input, Chris
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Re: Current Meade ETX-125...
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#5054993 - 02/04/12 11:59 AM
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Wow....that's am ETX on steroids! I guess you must have it counter balanced in the front to use that huge 30mm EP on the back of it.
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