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Hey Dave there is a Canadian Telescope alt/az mount(just the head for $300) and its rated for around 30 pounds with slow mo controls, its built by the same company that builds your scope in china. I belive woodland hills sells this mount cause CT doesnt sell direct to the states. All you need to find is lets say someone selling a CG5 tripod, newer style 2" SS legs or any sturdy comparable tripod and that might be another one to go with. I like the ES mount but after owning the orion like mount found myself wanting fine slow mo controls.
Jim

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Hey Dave there is a Canadian Telescope alt/az mount(just the head for $300) and its rated for around 30 pounds with slow mo controls, its built by the same company that builds your scope in china. I belive woodland hills sells this mount cause CT doesnt sell direct to the states. All you need to find is lets say someone selling a CG5 tripod, newer style 2" SS legs or any sturdy comparable tripod and that might be another one to go with. I like the ES mount but after owning the orion like mount found myself wanting fine slow mo controls.
Jim

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That looks just like the Stellarvue MG2 head. Very nice with the slo mo controls. A Meade heavy duty field tripod would work great ith it. Wonder if a ES or Orion pier extension would work easily with it?

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Thanks guys! I just ordered the CT mount from Woodland Hills...with tripod...Seems to be what I am looking for especially with the price of $499. Will let you know how it works after I get some time in with it!
Dave

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For the price, it is hard to beat the ES Twilight, but I better warn you.....if you don't attach another scope to the other side, that 152mm you have will tax the mount and make the motions pretty stiff. A 100mm or smaller scope works just fine by itself, but if I use my EON 120, I have to add my EON 80 on the other side to even it out. Now, having said that, with both scopes riding on the Twilight, it is very smooth.

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That EON120 must be really heavy then. I use my AR127 or my iOptron 150 mak on one side without even making the mount break a sweat. Very smooth. The mount is a tank. My mak with dew shield and 2" diagonal plus 2" Axiom LX 23mm or 34mm SWA has damping times next to nothing. I would guess the fully loaded mak is close to 18 lbs. the AR127 behaves the same. Scope, finder, 2" diagonal, 2" EP and all is ok. I have only mounted both scopes at the same time once, and it handles that weight well too. You have to fiddle with what works best as balance points between the two scopes, but the mak with its heavy dew shield balances perfectly when using heavy 2" accessories so well, that I do not tighten the altitude more than a hair which allows very free movement positioning the scope around. No slo mo on the twilight, but both my scopes have handles to grab when positioning them.

That's not to say anything against the Unistar mount either. Have read lots of rave reviews on it.

I have the pier extension for my twilight II also.


Edit - just read the specs on the EON120. 14.6 lbs. have you tried replacing the gooey Chinese grease with some smoother stuff? I know some others have and it has made a difference. Russ from ES can probably recommend some better grease for it. I haven't needed to, but if I feel it gets stiff, then that is the first thing I'll do. The EON is right there in weight with my scopes (nice scope by the way).

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There was no grease on the mount when I got it and it was stiff. I put some superlube on it, which made it better but then made it much worse after some use. I then cleaned that off and ended up buffing the main shaft and using just a touch of silicone lube. It's incredibly smooth now.

Let me be clearer of what I should have said, the EON 120 by itself is just acceptable.....but not nearly as smooth as balanced out with the 80 on the other side. The difference is that with just the EON 120, I have to use my entire hand to move the scope around and it's not as easy to just move and slowly center up the object, it takes some dexterity.....with the EON 80 balancing things out.....I am able to use one finger to lightly push the mount in position and move it to follow an object. The same is true with just the EON 80 mounted by itself.....effortless push with a single finger. I don't consider this a negative of the mount, just a fact of operation.

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