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t.r.
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Reged: 02/14/08

Loc: Upstate NY

AP 1200 No longer Available-1600GTO!
#5181856 - 04/20/12 02:26 PM

Well, if you waited for a new AP 1200 its too late. They are discontinued, but a new 1600GTO with zero-error encoders is replacing it. Called the "Sweet 16" it will debute at NEAF and the imaging conference. Announced on ap-ug with pics and specs.

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coz
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Reged: 08/25/10

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[Re: t.r.]
#5181874 - 04/20/12 02:33 PM

That is awesome. Looks like it still breaks down into 2 parts 59 + 40 lbs.

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jrcrilly
Refractor wienie no more

Reged: 04/30/03

Loc: NE Ohio

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[Re: coz]
#5181918 - 04/20/12 03:01 PM

It will leave a big capacity gap!

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skybsd
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Reged: 02/01/08

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[Re: t.r.]
#5181951 - 04/20/12 03:19 PM

Thanks for the heads up

That thing is FREAKIN' AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Regards,

skybsd

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Alph
Pooh-Bah

Reged: 11/23/06

Loc: Melmac

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[Re: t.r.]
#5181985 - 04/20/12 03:38 PM

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Well, if you waited for a new AP 1200 its too late. They are discountined, but a new 1600GTO with zero-error encoders is replacing it. Called the "Sweet 16" it will debute at NEAF and the imaging conference. Announced on ap-ug with pics and specs.

Does it come with a fork lift? A-P lost their minds. Completely out of touch with main street. A respectful business should NOT cancel/pre-empt the waiting list for the AP1200. They should have honored all pre-orders and deliver the AP1200.

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tomo
professor emeritus

Reged: 06/14/10

Loc: Shelby Twp, Mi

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[Re: Alph]
#5182000 - 04/20/12 03:50 PM

I agree with Alph. I hope they called all the people on the 1200 waiting list and personally informed them.

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Peter in Reno
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Reged: 07/15/08

Loc: Reno, NV

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[Re: tomo]
#5182009 - 04/20/12 03:52 PM

Through-the-mount cabling will be a very nice feature. I love it in my Mach1GTO. No more worrying about cables getting caught while not looking at the mount during slewing, tracking or autoguiding. I can go to bed while imaging and autoguiding without worrying as long as I know the scope won't hit the mount/pier/tripod.

Peter

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coz
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Reged: 08/25/10

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#5182033 - 04/20/12 04:03 PM

I'm certain they would have honored pre-orders. I believe people on the waitlist and those who have put money down are two different things.

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WirelessDude
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Reged: 01/02/08

Loc: San Tan Valley, AZ, USA

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[Re: coz]
#5182053 - 04/20/12 04:20 PM

***SIGH!!!*** What to sell, what to sell (including my existing AP1200GTO...)

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dan_h
Carpal Tunnel

Reged: 12/10/07

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[Re: tomo]
#5182068 - 04/20/12 04:35 PM

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I agree with Alph. I hope they called all the people on the 1200 waiting list and personally informed them.

According to the announcement made by Rolando on AM, all individuals on the 1200 wait list were personally informed and all have been moved to the 1600 list.

dan

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Gord
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Reged: 01/06/04

Loc: Toronto, ON, Canada

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[Re: WirelessDude]
#5182071 - 04/20/12 04:36 PM

So, does this mean we should see some good used AP1200's on the market in the near future?

Clear skies,

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gillmj24
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Reged: 12/06/05

Loc: PA

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[Re: Gord]
#5182104 - 04/20/12 05:09 PM

Yes. Price determined by what the new 1600 will cost.

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Alph
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Reged: 11/23/06

Loc: Melmac

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[Re: Gord]
#5182107 - 04/20/12 05:10 PM

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So, does this mean we should see some good used AP1200's on the market in the near future?

Isn't good news for a prudent buyer?

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WirelessDude
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Reged: 01/02/08

Loc: San Tan Valley, AZ, USA

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[Re: Alph]
#5182167 - 04/20/12 05:45 PM

So, now you think I'm prudent?

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Awesomelenny
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Reged: 05/02/04

Loc: Long: 81.42 W Lat: 41.21 N

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[Re: WirelessDude]
#5182214 - 04/20/12 06:32 PM

Like WOW! I just bought a beautiful used AP1200 for a beautiful price too just 2 weeks ago. THis thing handles my 16" Meade without a flinch.

This lack of enjoying a very precise instrument in the over 60 to 140 lb weight class puts a number of amateurs out of the Astro-Physics market. But then again, I am sure AP did their homework and seen that the AP900 will suffice most amateurs with 12 and 14" SCT's.

I sure am glad I was able to secure one before what I think will be an upward push in the used mount category of AP1200 mounts.

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Bowmoreman
Clear enough skies

Reged: 09/11/06

Loc: Bolton, MA

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[Re: Awesomelenny]
#5182274 - 04/20/12 07:08 PM

It's all going to boil down (surprise) to price...

I have *long* thought that the price delta between the 900 and 1200 was far too close... this does fix that...

As long as the 1600 isn't *too* expensive... it looks very, very nice...

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astrotrf
Not at all Mundane

Reged: 09/30/07

Loc: Rodeo, NM

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[Re: Alph]
#5182286 - 04/20/12 07:17 PM

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A-P lost their minds. Completely out of touch with main street.

Maybe so, but over here on Desert Drive, this mount has just shot to the top of the list in my long (and very frustrating) mount search. It's still a worm-and-wheel design, but the absolute encoders largely make up for that. Through-the-mount cabling meets another requirement on my shopping list, as does RS-232 operation with the intelligence built into the mount. The only thing missing to make it perfect (for me, at least) would have been adjustment to 90 degrees latitude so it could be attached to an astrographic pier in a simple way.

I'm really happy I waited. I agonized over mounts with dodgy software, mounts that required me to park a PC (and a *Windows* one at that) right next to the mount for control, mounts with obscure control systems, and mounts that precluded or severely limited through-the-mount cabling. A search that I thought would be easy in that price range turned out to be a 2-1/2 year nightmare that sounds as if it might finally be ending.

Now I just have to wait for the price announcement to see if the mount fund has enough astro-bucks or whether it needs to be augmented somewhat ...

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t.r.
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Reged: 02/14/08

Loc: Upstate NY

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[Re: Awesomelenny]
#5182313 - 04/20/12 07:47 PM

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But then again, I am sure AP did their homework and seen that the AP900 will suffice most amateurs with 12 and 14" SCT's.

Heck, some folks are using the Mach 1 satisfactorily for their 12 -14's!

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gillmj24
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Reged: 12/06/05

Loc: PA

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[Re: t.r.]
#5182320 - 04/20/12 07:52 PM

Maybe they'll sell their NEAF display on Sunday night since you know, they don't want to pay to ship it back.

PS no don't look at me. I think I will only be up for the day on Saturday.

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gillmj24
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Reged: 12/06/05

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#5182325 - 04/20/12 07:57 PM

PS anyone want to guess at the price?

My vote is for 14000. Whatever the paramount ME costs.

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