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Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | (show all) PatHolland Carpal Tunnel Reged: 10/11/09 Loc: Clever, Missouri Re: New Celestron Neximage 5 [Re: PiotrM]       #5193597 - 04/27/12 03:23 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   What do you recommend? Keep in mind that my goal is large prints (11X17 or 8X10) or so from solar system images. What about the Flea3 3.2 MP Mono USB 3.0? Post Extras:       PiotrM Carpal Tunnel Reged: 01/03/10 Loc: Poland Re: New Celestron Neximage 5 [Re: PatHolland]       #5194059 - 04/27/12 09:25 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   You would need insane aperture to make big prints out of planets. Moon prints from C14 would be very nice If you want good & budget lunar camera - Point Grey Chameleon mono (it can to planets but not as fast)... and an infrared filter to make it nice and sharp. Or the Firewire 800 Flea 3 with ICX445 for faster framerate. If you want the best thing for big lunar mosaics - wait for Basler or Ximea cameras with CMV4000 sensor (1" diagonal, mono, ~1500 EUR. GigE or USB3). Post Extras:       PatHolland Carpal Tunnel Reged: 10/11/09 Loc: Clever, Missouri Re: New Celestron Neximage 5 [Re: PiotrM]       #5194104 - 04/27/12 10:37 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   OK, point taken PiotrM. I am interested in both solar, lunar and planetary imaging. I live in an area of average seeing. I am especially interested in printing the images up to 11X17 inches (close to European A3 size). Lets say that I can spend up to $1000.00. What camera would be best and fit the criteria. BTW, I do have an additional 5X1.25" USB Filterwheel, so going mono would not be a problem. Post Extras:       PiotrM Carpal Tunnel Reged: 01/03/10 Loc: Poland Re: New Celestron Neximage 5 [Re: PatHolland]       #5194394 - 04/28/12 06:02 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   DMK21AU618 or Flea3 (Firewire 800 ICX618 model) mono - planetary Chameleon or Flea3 (Firewire 800, ICX445 model), or IDS/Thorlabs/EO camera with e2v Sapphire CMOS; mono - lunar/solar Post Extras:       PatHolland Carpal Tunnel Reged: 10/11/09 Loc: Clever, Missouri Re: New Celestron Neximage 5 [Re: PiotrM]       #5196339 - 04/29/12 10:50 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Thanks for the advice, I am looking into all of those cameras now. Post Extras:       jtgiroux newbie Reged: 06/21/11 Re: New Celestron Neximage 5 [Re: PiotrM]       #5214027 - 05/09/12 03:19 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   So it's essentially the same as this Imaging Source Camera - same sensor and they're both color: http://www.theimagingsource.com/en_US/products/cameras/usb-cmos-color/dfk72auc02/ The Celestron sells for 1/2 the price. Post Extras:       PiotrM Carpal Tunnel Reged: 01/03/10 Loc: Poland Re: New Celestron Neximage 5 [Re: jtgiroux]       #5214109 - 05/09/12 04:12 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   You don't know what electronics is in DMK and in Celestron. In Europe the price for Celestron camera will be much higher than in US... and you can't choose mono (and I don't see a point of buying a big color camera with entry-level sensor). Post Extras:       ccs_hello Postmaster Reged: 07/03/04 Re: New Celestron Neximage 5 [Re: PiotrM]       #5214935 - 05/10/12 06:33 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   These CMOS Aptina (Micron) based imagers basically have the basic camera function and signal conversion all embedded inside the same image sensor IC as well. So the resulting image should be almost identical (if they use the same sensor part.) Clear Skies! ccs_hello Post Extras:       MeadeSquared member Reged: 03/06/11 Re: New Celestron Neximage 5 [Re: ccs_hello]       #5227847 - 05/18/12 06:33 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Mine just shipped out and should be here next week. I'll miss the eclipse on sunday but will hopefully be up and running in time for the Venus transit, which was my whole reason for wanting to dip my toes into solar/planetary imaging. Fingers crossed! Post Extras:       Regos member Reged: 02/01/12 Loc: East Tennessee Re: New Celestron Neximage 5 [Re: MeadeSquared]       #5234231 - 05/22/12 03:12 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Quote: Mine just shipped out and should be here next week. I'll miss the eclipse on sunday but will hopefully be up and running in time for the Venus transit We are interested in a mini-review, so please get some pre-transit practice runs going! Seriously, any "first impressions" are eagerly welcome, especially regarding the bundled software and overall performance. Post Extras:       PatHolland Carpal Tunnel Reged: 10/11/09 Loc: Clever, Missouri Re: New Celestron Neximage 5 [Re: Regos]       #5235017 - 05/23/12 12:17 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   I got mine in today, haven't had a chance to put it into action yet. This is a very small lightweight camera. It makes the Meade LPI camera look physically big. I installed the included iCap software on my PC to check it out. So far, so good. Software looks easy to use. Camera is responsive to the software...etc. I noticed about 15 or so hot pixels on the chip, fewer than my Orion Starshoot Solar System Imager has. The camera feels well built, does not have the "cheap plasticy feel" to it at all. I was going to get a Flea 3 (Firewire) but with the order of the Coronado PST doublestack, the pocketbook was screaming for mercy - so I stayed with the $200.00 Celestron NexImage. I hope the NexImage 5 and the PST like each other. I will at the first opportunity get some solar shots and Saturn shots. I know a lot of people are eagerly awaiting results of this new camera to see what it can do. I am one of them. Post Extras:       kgb member Reged: 12/16/12 Loc: Long Island Re: New Celestron Neximage 5 [Re: PiotrM]       #5604990 - 01/04/13 03:04 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Hate to reopen this post, but buyer beware if you are running windows 7 and want to buy this camera. The included software does not include the correct drivers for windows 7 and the fix on Celestron's website is hit or miss. Technical support is also unable to help if the default fix does not work. Check out the reviews on Amazon.com for confirmation of this problem. Post Extras:       burb scope sage Reged: 04/18/08 Loc: Canton, MI Re: New Celestron Neximage 5 [Re: kgb]       #5610321 - 01/07/13 02:23 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   This camera is not getting a lot of positive buzz. For lunar & planetary work, what is a better option in the $200 range? Post Extras:       PiotrM Carpal Tunnel Reged: 01/03/10 Loc: Poland Re: New Celestron Neximage 5 [Re: burb scope]       #5610381 - 01/07/13 02:53 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   PGR Chameleon on ebay at bit more than 200 (but very good camera). Very cheap, entry level - PGR Firefly from ebay (~$35) Post Extras:       Karl Fabian member Reged: 11/02/11 Loc: Illinois Re: New Celestron Neximage 5 [Re: burb scope]       #5615413 - 01/10/13 12:16 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Quote: This camera is not getting a lot of positive buzz. For lunar & planetary work, what is a better option in the $200 range? Maybe my information is dated, but everything I have ever read about planetary imaging said to stay away from cmos chips and that CCD is superior. The toucam pro is no longer in production but the old Neximage uses the same toucam chip. I fail to see how the Neximage 5 is going to provide better planetary images. It does have the capability of long exposure and has smaller pixels in a larger array. Smaller pixels usually mean worse response from what I have read..especially CMOS chips. Of course maybe today CMOS has been improved from the past? From my way of understanding much of the alleged improved features of the Neximage 5 would be irrelevent for planetary .avi imaging and video processing using registax at least. As long as the older 640X480 Neximage or toucam is working at f20 or higher there are 2 pixels covering the dawes limit angular resolution of the telescope. In other words an 8 inch telescope at f20 has 2 pixels covering every .6 arc second part of the image. Large sensor and small pixel size are not needed because planets are small and as long as you have enough projection magnification the image is covered by enough pixels with 640X480. The Neximage 5 may be better for wider fields like lunar landscapes,and dimmer objects , but for typical planetary imaging I am holding off. I'm happy with my old Neximage and have obtained excellent results with it. Much of the "noise" can be eliminated by taking 4500 frames at a time at 10fps or even 5 fps in good seeing. Got excellent images of Mars during the recent Mars apparition showing good detail on the disk at 8 arc seconds with a 8" working at F30. Edited by Karl Fabian (01/10/13 12:24 PM) Post Extras:       PiotrM Carpal Tunnel Reged: 01/03/10 Loc: Poland Re: New Celestron Neximage 5 [Re: Karl Fabian]       #5615603 - 01/10/13 02:04 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Only some CMOS sensors are good for Solar System imaging. Nearly all of them are the newest designs. Micron/Aptina old CMOS sensors (like those in NexImage 5) aren't the best (but also aren't total disaster). Post Extras:       FlyBD5 super member Reged: 02/12/13 Loc: Boston MA Re: New Celestron Neximage 5 [Re: PiotrM]       #5713806 - 03/05/13 03:00 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Umm... this camera does not have a CCD sensor, it's a CMOS sensor. ?? Post Extras:       PiotrM Carpal Tunnel Reged: 01/03/10 Loc: Poland Re: New Celestron Neximage 5 [Re: FlyBD5]       #5714412 - 03/05/13 12:53 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   NexImage 5 is CMOS. the older "NexImage" without "5" is CCD. Post Extras:       Mert Post Laureate Reged: 08/31/05 Loc: Spain, Pamplona Re: New Celestron Neximage 5 [Re: PiotrM]       #5714423 - 03/05/13 12:57 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   No mention of the ASI120MC or MM?? They are cmos based cameras and for what I've seen so far on CN are great performers! ( and very economic for sure ) I wish to have one for sure but for now budget is tight :-( Post Extras:       FlyBD5 super member Reged: 02/12/13 Loc: Boston MA Re: New Celestron Neximage 5 [Re: PiotrM]       #5714489 - 03/05/13 01:29 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Quote: NexImage 5 is CMOS. the older "NexImage" without "5" is CCD. I'm surprised people pay a premium for devices in USB webcams like the Philips ToUCam Pro. This CCD is available in an OEM color board (suitable for tinkering and development you don't pay for a lens you won't use, no enclosure) and in B/W as well, for less than $150 qty 1 and with a faster Firewire interface, but that CCD, the Sony ICX098BQ, does not have good performance in the near-infrared. I'm planning to buy one to build my own imaging device. AND the board is available with Windows drivers all the way to Windows 8/64-bit. Neither the ToUCam Pro nor the NexImage have 64-bit drivers, far as I know... Post Extras:       Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | (show all)

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