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APM M.Ludes
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APM/LZOS Riccardi Designed 6"F/8 Apo doublet arriv
      #5250271 - 06/01/12 10:58 AM

today the first 5 pc of the new Massimo Riccardi Designed SuperED doublet Apo's arrived

http://www.apm-telescopes.net/en/Optical-Accessories/Optical-Sets/Lenses-in-Cell/APM-LZOS-Apo-Refraktoren-152-F/1200-Apochromat-Lens-in-Cell-2-lenses.html

LZOS call it Semi-Apo, but here term of colorcorrection for an apo cannot be done with any doublet



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Re: APM/LZOS Riccardi Designed 6"F/8 Apo doublet arriv new [Re: APM M.Ludes]
      #5261471 - 06/08/12 07:57 AM

What is the price?

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Re: APM/LZOS Riccardi Designed 6"F/8 Apo doublet arriv new [Re: AlienRatDog]
      #5261580 - 06/08/12 09:40 AM

Click the link ...

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Re: APM/LZOS Riccardi Designed 6"F/8 Apo doublet arriv new [Re: Mark9473]
      #5341365 - 07/29/12 09:34 AM

pictures of the OTA





Image of the infocuse STar with 50 micron artifical star at 520 power



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Re: APM/LZOS Riccardi Designed 6"F/8 Apo doublet arriv new [Re: APM M.Ludes]
      #5368682 - 08/14/12 04:25 PM

our baffle system



the Apo in action at APM Backyard



we tested this new doublet under real night sky objects

- Stars at 250 power infocuse completly color free, no spurios of purple

- Moon, Moon's Limp, Moon's craters at 250 power completely colorfree, no spurios of purple

- Jupiter at 250 power completly colorfree

Wolfgang Rohr measured one for us, the result is better then original designed




so infocuse it is a real colorfree Apochromat


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Re: APM/LZOS Riccardi Designed 6"F/8 Apo doublet arriv new [Re: APM M.Ludes]
      #5371665 - 08/16/12 02:13 PM

I'll bite and ask why the cell is labelled SD-APO......

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Re: APM/LZOS Riccardi Designed 6"F/8 Apo doublet arriv new [Re: gatorengineer]
      #5371738 - 08/16/12 03:13 PM

SD = Super ED Glas, it use OK-4 and Ok-4 is SuperED Glas, thats why

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Re: APM/LZOS Riccardi Designed 6"F/8 Apo doublet arriv new [Re: APM M.Ludes]
      #5439180 - 09/25/12 05:31 AM

Is the contrast of this SD-APO noticeably better than TMB152 triplet APO?

Which one do you prefer, let alone the price?


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Re: APM/LZOS Riccardi Designed 6"F/8 Apo doublet arriv new [Re: fugueman]
      #5440032 - 09/25/12 02:52 PM

next 152 triplet I get in december, before I cannot compare, so cannot give a honest answere this moment, sorry, you need to wait

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Re: APM/LZOS Riccardi Designed 6"F/8 Apo doublet arriv new [Re: APM M.Ludes]
      #5441300 - 09/26/12 09:37 AM

Quote:

next 152 triplet I get in december, before I cannot compare, so cannot give a honest answere this moment, sorry, you need to wait




Well Markus, I got a 152/F8 triplet the other day so just send me a sample of the new doublet and I'll make the comparison for you.

My triplet is a seriously good scope, mechanically and optically. Right up there with the 130/9 I used to own. I was concerned about spherochromatism but that concern went away in about 3 seconds while doing the star test...and I'm slow. My only carp is that I wish the tube was 25-30mm shorter so that I can reach focus with my Denks with the power switch attached without the OCS in the optical path. I can get to focus without the power switch but that limits my high power viewing to ~150X.

Markus is to be congratulated for bringing this and the Chinese sourced new light weight doublets to the market for us visual folks!

Now how about the 175/F9 doublet!?

Jeff


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Re: APM/LZOS Riccardi Designed 6"F/8 Apo doublet arriv new [Re: APM M.Ludes]
      #5441380 - 09/26/12 10:27 AM

Quote:

next 152 triplet I get in december, before I cannot compare, so cannot give a honest answere this moment, sorry, you need to wait




Thanks for your reply!

I'm interested in having such a hi-end class 6" APO for visual use only. So I'd like to make sure the practical differences of optical performance between the two types. Waiting……


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Re: APM/LZOS Riccardi Designed 6"F/8 Apo doublet arriv new [Re: fugueman]
      #5443361 - 09/27/12 11:47 AM

Jeff

if we see this 6" doublet will be accepted well in the market we will do bigger and smaller doublets.

One of my employee made a super compact OTA for his Tak FC 125, his total tube can be moved inside 3 parts, so it becomes airline portable. A design I have not seen anywhere in the world.

This design allo us to make the doublet super compact for transport


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Re: APM/LZOS Riccardi Designed 6"F/8 Apo doublet arriv new [Re: fugueman]
      #5443365 - 09/27/12 11:49 AM

due the spherochromatism which cannot be corrected in that doublet with the given glases, you see in this doublet on defocused stars spherochromatical colors.

However excact focused, its colorfree on moon, planets, vega , venus, not even a hint of halo :-), thanks to to the perfect visual optimisation from Massimo Riccardi and LZOS


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Re: APM/LZOS Riccardi Designed 6"F/8 Apo doublet arriv new [Re: APM M.Ludes]
      #5458236 - 10/06/12 05:32 PM

the refractor discuss this doublet and pal made a statement which is true.

the LZOS doublet show in-focuse no color at all, almost any doublet apo even with Fluorite show a purple halo on bright stars, the Riccardi designed does NOT


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Re: APM/LZOS Riccardi Designed 6"F/8 Apo doublet arriv new [Re: APM M.Ludes]
      #5678866 - 02/14/13 07:03 AM

Quote:

next 152 triplet I get in december, before I cannot compare, so cannot give a honest answere this moment, sorry, you need to wait




Hi Markus,

Any updates about the comparison?


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Re: APM/LZOS Riccardi Designed 6"F/8 Apo doublet arriv new [Re: fugueman]
      #5679150 - 02/14/13 10:46 AM

President Putin delayed all LZOS production due urgent orders for satellite optics on same LZOS Polishing maschines, sorry

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Re: APM/LZOS Riccardi Designed 6"F/8 Apo doublet arriv new [Re: APM M.Ludes]
      #5683037 - 02/16/13 09:29 AM

Mudak!

Putin's announcement was probably accompanied by photos of himself riding a satellite in a cosmonaut suit but still somehow shirtless.


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Re: APM/LZOS Riccardi Designed 6"F/8 Apo doublet arriv new [Re: johnnyha]
      #5684692 - 02/17/13 06:49 AM

I just find it funny as his self aggrandising in this way is tempered by the presence of his man-*BLEEP*.

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