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astro_que
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The Questar 12 new
      #3761792 - 04/22/10 04:27 PM

At NEAF, the owner of the company spontaneously expressed his desire to build new 12"'s, with the same thermal innovations as the Titanium 7.

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Steve C.
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Re: The Questar 12 new [Re: astro_que]
      #3761871 - 04/22/10 05:07 PM

Gawd, what would something like that cost?

They would definitely need some new engineering for equalization.


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Re: The Questar 12 new [Re: Steve C.]
      #3761895 - 04/22/10 05:17 PM

Quote:

They would definitely need some new engineering for equalization.




...and I would definately need another source of income to afford.

CS,
Charles


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Re: The Questar 12 new [Re: greedyshark]
      #3761967 - 04/22/10 06:01 PM

They now believe they have the thermal technology to build any size Mak. It just takes a lot of titanium and fancy machining.

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Re: The Questar 12 new [Re: astro_que]
      #3762661 - 04/22/10 11:52 PM

It takes a big, thick hunk of glass and a lot of grinding to produce the deeply curved corrector for a 12-inch Mak. Hang on to your wallets!

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Re: The Questar 12 new [Re: ColoHank]
      #3796506 - 05/10/10 12:05 AM Attachment (210 downloads)

As an owner of an original 11 1/4" Hayward BSC-2 glass blank made in the late 50's, I can testify that the obstacles to overcome require a bit more than titanium. Even back then, this piece of glass was some $300, which could have bought a good used car then.

The front corrector on the 12 is some 1 1/2" thick, with deep curves. The only ways to make one is to start with a solid piece of optical glass and generate the deep curves on both sides or slump mold a suitable piece and then anneal it. The latter has the problem of rejects due to a poor anneal, resulting is a high percentage of loss. The former requires a glass blank that is around 2 1/2" by 13" in diameter.

Having looked through one on several different nights, I can also attest to the need for thermal reconciliation to get the best use of one.

This size pushes the limits of practicality on the design. My own design using the 11 1/4" corrector blank suggests the lower limit of weight is around 45 lbs, assuming an aluminum tube machined down, an open cell to reduce weight and to help cool the mirror.


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Re: The Questar 12 new [Re: JohnH]
      #5193589 - 04/27/12 03:17 PM

Anything more about this Q12?
I sure like to see something like like, even ATM made.


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Re: The Questar 12 new [Re: saemark30]
      #5194676 - 04/28/12 10:51 AM

I would think that the demand for a Q-12 would be very limited, to the point where it is not practical for Questar to attempt to make them. If I remember correctly, back when they tried to promote them they sold less than a dozen? I think there are just too many other designs that can produce the same results at a far lower cost. I'd love to own one but will never be able to due to the cost.

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Re: The Questar 12 new [Re: ColoHank]
      #5268650 - 06/12/12 07:51 PM

Quote:

It takes a big, thick hunk of glass and a lot of grinding to produce the deeply curved corrector for a 12-inch Mak. Hang on to your wallets!




It would also be quite heavy.


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Re: The Questar 12 new [Re: GeneT]
      #5268788 - 06/12/12 09:45 PM

I think that they are developing one for a government contract. I would expect it to be in the $250,000 to $500,000 range.

Bill


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Erik Bakker
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Re: The Questar 12 [Re: Billydee]
      #5268997 - 06/13/12 03:20 AM

Quote:

I think that they are developing one for a government contract. I would expect it to be in the $250,000 to $500,000 range.

Bill




In that case, I'd start searching for an A-P 10" Mak or have Matthias Wirth build a 12" MCT for you. Nostalgia apart, you would end up with a more enjoyable and of course affordable scope.


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Re: The Questar 12 new [Re: Erik Bakker]
      #5855331 - 05/12/13 11:55 AM

For a time Company 7 had listed the 12" as under development. It's since been removed.

During one visit to the Questar facility, I asked Jim Richert about the 12". He said they were slowly working it out. Since their primary income source are government contracts, they only fool with it when they have time. Of the prototypes, he stated they have more work to reduce weight and cost but added, "I could sell forty of these right now, sight unseen. We'll get there."

Makes you wonder, doesn't it?


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