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James Cunningham
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Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new [Re: John Miele]
      #5358378 - 08/08/12 04:15 PM

No power supply comes with the camera nor does the positive and negative wires. You will have to get those. I was afraid that I would mess up the polarity so I purchased a pigtail that had a black wire and a red wire to fit a security camera. You strip the ends and insert them into the little things on the back of the camera. They are really cheap but most of them come from China but they work perfectly.

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mpgxsvcd
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Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new [Re: Hemmi]
      #5358382 - 08/08/12 04:20 PM

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Last shot was soft because of dew




Dew? In Raleigh? In August? Are you sure that wasn't rain? I can't believe you could image at all last night. I had nothing but clouds and rain a few miles south of where you are.

I haven't been able to image in more than 1 month. I can't remember the last time I even saw a star from my house.

October can't get here fast enough!


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Hemmi
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Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new [Re: mpgxsvcd]
      #5358861 - 08/08/12 09:40 PM

Quote:

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Last shot was soft because of dew




Dew? In Raleigh? In August? Are you sure that wasn't rain? I can't believe you could image at all last night. I had nothing but clouds and rain a few miles south of where you are.

I haven't been able to image in more than 1 month. I can't remember the last time I even saw a star from my house.

October can't get here fast enough!


LOL I had about a 20 min break in the clouds..Got set up quickly and snapped those shots as the clouds rolled back in. I had maybe 10 min of viewing.

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James Cunningham
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Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new [Re: Hemmi]
      #5359330 - 08/09/12 07:29 AM

Anyone use their camera to get an alignment?

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barbarosa
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Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new [Re: James Cunningham]
      #5360236 - 08/09/12 04:22 PM

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Anyone use their camera to get an alignment?



Yes.

I use the finder scope to bring the first alignment target into the image. I use SharpCap and sometimes use the superimposed crosshairs to get precise centering in the image. On an A2S alignment sometimes the second star has to be brought in using the finderscope.

This works very well on my CPC925 and is easily done when a focal reducer (or stacked reducers) is in the train. It is a bit more difficult without the reducer because of the narrow FOV.

Last night I aligned on Polaris and Arcturus. Both reducers were in the train. A small adjustment brought Arcturus into the image. I did not use the software crosshairs. Go-to targets to the S, SE and near the zenith were all in the FOV and consistantly in the same area of the image.


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Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new [Re: barbarosa]
      #5360269 - 08/09/12 04:46 PM

Ok this camera looks like a new adventure...I just ordered
the small one without i/r filter from Elane....
So ill get a chance in about 2 weeks to play around.
I plan on using a wired remote like my sdc435..
simple 4 buttons...maybe.
Im in Onekama Mi with some dark skys for test on NSN..
when I get the camera..


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James Cunningham
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Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new [Re: mega256]
      #5360375 - 08/09/12 05:46 PM

I could be wrong but someone else who purchased the small version says that the 435 capacity is not on this camera.

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mega256
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Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new [Re: James Cunningham]
      #5360436 - 08/09/12 06:18 PM

Jimmy

From what I understand both of these 1024 cameras are almost
the same...But the mini does not have rs435 control...
I also like the small size....and will use a wired remote if
necessary....
I want the smaller lighter camera to use on my solar scope!


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Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new [Re: mega256]
      #5360479 - 08/09/12 06:51 PM

There's no such thing as rs435 ... perhaps you guys are talking about RS485?

With the small form factor camera it will likely be possible (like the Samsungs) to solder some fine wires onto the pads where the OSD buttons attach. Not easy but if you're careful definitely possible if you're comfortable working with such small delicate parts.

Edit: for better English and a little less serious

Edited by mclewis1 (08/09/12 10:24 PM)


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mega256
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Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new [Re: mclewis1]
      #5360493 - 08/09/12 07:00 PM

Right Mark......rs485...I think that was what Jimmy ment,,,

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Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new [Re: mega256]
      #5360518 - 08/09/12 07:15 PM

You are right, I meant rs435

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Hemmi
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Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new [Re: mega256]
      #5361230 - 08/10/12 07:50 AM

Mega256 you will be glad to know that there is an OSD cable that you can unplug from the rear board and just splice in there. No need to solder to the pads at all. The rear board is just a breakout from the main CCD board. From the main CCD board there are separate wires for power, av, osd, and iris. So just unplug the osd cable from the rear board, cut off connector and wire in your sdc-435 type wired remote.

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Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new [Re: Hemmi]
      #5361524 - 08/10/12 11:16 AM

Now that's a piece of very good news ... thanks Hemmi

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Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new [Re: mclewis1]
      #5361564 - 08/10/12 11:38 AM

This little series of Sony cameras is getting closer to a product that I wish Rock (or someone) would build. I think it would be a killer product for all those folks who have Alt Az mounted scopes.

1/2" ExView HAD sensor
Low noise read amps
~30s integration times (x2048 ?)
Simple internal TEC (no fans) with basic controls (low, med, high cooling)
S-Video output (but composite only is not a show stopper)
Simple, easy to navigate menu system
Simple external wired OSD remote hand box
RS485 for remote control from a PC
$500-700 target list

And yes I know this sounds quite a bit like a color version of an inexpensive StellaCam III ... but even just a TEC upgrade to one of these Sony cameras would get quite close to the functionality I'm thinking of and at a much better price point.


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Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new [Re: Hemmi]
      #5361585 - 08/10/12 11:52 AM

Quote:

Mega256 you will be glad to know that there is an OSD cable that you can unplug from the rear board and just splice in there. No need to solder to the pads at all. The rear board is just a breakout from the main CCD board. From the main CCD board there are separate wires for power, av, osd, and iris. So just unplug the osd cable from the rear board, cut off connector and wire in your sdc-435 type wired remote.




Any interest in going down to Howell Woods next week? I would love to see what your camera does in person?

The weather is finally supposed to be better on Tuesday or perhaps Wednesday.

Howell Woods is down where 40 and 95 meet so it is a bit of a drive. However, the skies are very dark compared to everywhere else around us.

Just a thought.


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Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new [Re: Hemmi]
      #5361592 - 08/10/12 12:01 PM

Thanks,thats great news 4 sure...
I think I will try to use the connector for the lense...(4 pins) if I can..Depending on how the osd menu works...If it wraps around,we may get by with 4 pins...(gnd,right,up,enter)..But we may need all 6 pins...


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Hemmi
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Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new [Re: mega256]
      #5361669 - 08/10/12 12:53 PM

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Thanks,thats great news 4 sure...
I think I will try to use the connector for the lense...(4 pins) if I can..Depending on how the osd menu works...If it wraps around,we may get by with 4 pins...(gnd,right,up,enter)..But we may need all 6 pins...




the osd cable on mine is 6 pins IIRC. 1 ground and one wire per button


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Hemmi
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Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 [Re: mpgxsvcd]
      #5361674 - 08/10/12 12:55 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Mega256 you will be glad to know that there is an OSD cable that you can unplug from the rear board and just splice in there. No need to solder to the pads at all. The rear board is just a breakout from the main CCD board. From the main CCD board there are separate wires for power, av, osd, and iris. So just unplug the osd cable from the rear board, cut off connector and wire in your sdc-435 type wired remote.




Any interest in going down to Howell Woods next week? I would love to see what your camera does in person?

The weather is finally supposed to be better on Tuesday or perhaps Wednesday.

Howell Woods is down where 40 and 95 meet so it is a bit of a drive. However, the skies are very dark compared to everywhere else around us.

Just a thought.




Maybe I can swing that. I have to see whats up with work next week. I will let you know.


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John59
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Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 [Re: Hemmi]
      #5362243 - 08/10/12 07:07 PM

What wired remote are you refering to?

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John59
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Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 [Re: John59]
      #5362245 - 08/10/12 07:09 PM

I will be using the small camera on my refractor tonight. I will either capture on PC or photograpgh the screen. Other members of our club have received the small version and as promised by Eliane, the IR filter was removed and shipped along with the camera in a separate bage.

Edited by John59 (08/10/12 07:10 PM)


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