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James Cunningham
Carpal Tunnel

Reged: 08/07/10

Loc: Maryland

Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new

[Re: scout72]
#5306474 - 07/07/12 09:44 AM

My camera only goes to x256 but I wonder is this is enough. The images put on this post were only at x32 and only for a few seconds. When would you ever need to go to x1024?

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Hemmi
super member

Reged: 09/08/10

Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new

[Re: scout72]
#5306529 - 07/07/12 10:21 AM

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You da man- thanks sir- guess I have to actually go out and do some more testing now too...

also wdr exposure mode seems to work good, but wdr has to be set to on....not auto. in wdr auto mode its grainy as sand.

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James Cunningham
Carpal Tunnel

Reged: 08/07/10

Loc: Maryland

Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new

[Re: Hemmi]
#5306597 - 07/07/12 11:26 AM

If you do set it to WDR, I found that you cannot make any color setting changes! So, WDR may not be the best setting. I am sure that without the IR filter, the color settings need to change. I am interested in what those color settings should be from someone who goes our to observe. A good subject would be Jupiter or Saturn since we know what colors they should be.

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nytecam
Postmaster

Reged: 08/20/05

Loc: London UK

Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new

[Re: Hemmi]
#5306917 - 07/07/12 03:06 PM

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I can confirm a couple things after testing the camera tonight. I did some simple test, as the skies sucked. I just played with the camera in the dark. I found out that to reduce noise dramatically, Exposure set to HLI (start with HLI level 1), Sense up OFF, ACG any level (depending on what your viewing), lens set to electric and adjust exposure manually. Also set the 3d-dnr to max. Try this as a good starting point. I'm now more excited about trying this out on the sky. Just remember, you have to exit and save after every change, else the camera will go back to old settings after a few min.
Lee

Good move Lee - test astro gear in daylight first or in this case in dark conditions for nighttime simulation

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James Cunningham
Carpal Tunnel

Reged: 08/07/10

Loc: Maryland

Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new

[Re: James Cunningham]
#5307796 - 07/08/12 06:00 AM

The shipper of my camera agrees that he sent the wrong camera and is going to replace my camera with the right one. Should I get a PAL camera or NTSC camera? Thanks.

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Hemmi
super member

Reged: 09/08/10

Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new

[Re: James Cunningham]
#5311822 - 07/10/12 06:53 PM

This is the rs-485 remote I use with this camera. But its prob not the best choice.

http://compare.ebay.com/like/221013747620?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&_lwgsi=y&cbt=y

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James Cunningham
Carpal Tunnel

Reged: 08/07/10

Loc: Maryland

Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new

[Re: Hemmi]
#5311847 - 07/10/12 07:16 PM

Why do you say its not the best choice? Does it control ALL of the camera settings or just some of them. How does it work on your camera? Is there anything else that is needed to control the camera settings? Thanks.
Jim

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Hemmi
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Reged: 09/08/10

Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new

[Re: James Cunningham]
#5311975 - 07/10/12 08:48 PM

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Why do you say its not the best choice? Does it control ALL of the camera settings or just some of them. How does it work on your camera? Is there anything else that is needed to control the camera settings? Thanks.
Jim

The buttons don't match up 100% and its not back lit. Other than that it does control the camera 100%

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James Cunningham
Carpal Tunnel

Reged: 08/07/10

Loc: Maryland

Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new

[Re: Hemmi]
#5311987 - 07/10/12 08:57 PM

Thanks. I just ordered one.

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jambi99
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Reged: 08/14/10

Loc: Québec, Canada

Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new

[Re: James Cunningham]
#5316924 - 07/14/12 01:47 AM

I got my camera too. Unfortunately i forgot to order c-mount adapter. I will pass by the astroshop tomorrow and hopefully they have some in stock(which i doubt). Should be able to post some image in couple of days. Concerning the camera it self, the menu is a bit confusing. After a while you get us to it. I tried Hemmi settings and it does reduce noise a lot.

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James Cunningham
Carpal Tunnel

Reged: 08/07/10

Loc: Maryland

Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new

[Re: jambi99]
#5317073 - 07/14/12 08:13 AM

You also might want to consider a 2 inch adapter that screws directly onto the camera here at scopestuff
http://www.scopestuff.com/ss_c2bf.htm

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jambi99
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Loc: Québec, Canada

Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new

[Re: James Cunningham]
#5317327 - 07/14/12 11:57 AM

I'll eventually use a 3.3 reducer(looking for one) with my CPC1100. To connect the camera i will use a 1.25 diagonal to sct adapter then connect the nosepiece to it.For now i will be stacking 6.5 reducer with a 0.5. In both case i need a nosepiece. This will also be cheaper while i can get a nosepiece for 5 $ at xagyl communcation.

Thanks anyway!

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mclewis1
Thread Killer

Reged: 02/25/06

Loc: New Brunswick, Canada

Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new

[Re: jambi99]
#5317703 - 07/14/12 03:48 PM

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I'll eventually use a 3.3 reducer(looking for one) with my CPC1100. To connect the camera i will use a 1.25 diagonal to sct adapter then connect the nosepiece to it.

That isn't likely to work out really well. The 1.25" visual back and diagonal will add too much distance between the f3.3 reducer and the sensor in the camera. Ideally the spacing should be 57mm or so. Much more than 60mm and the image quality really starts to degrade.

Since you have a fork mounted CPC you will likely really want to keep a diagonal in the picture. Using a diagonal for spacing with something other than the f6.3 reducer can be tough (too much spacing). For more reduction than the f6.3 reducer I'd consider either a 2" .5x reducer on a 2" to 1.25" adapter inserted into the 2" diagonal or the Mallincam MFR-5 reducer in place of a 1.25" nose piece.

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John59
sage

Reged: 11/06/11

Loc: Round Rock,TX

Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new

[Re: mclewis1]
#5318036 - 07/14/12 08:32 PM

I found this while looking at the other and I think it is the same specifications only in a smaller Body??
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/1-3-SONY-960H-EXview-HAD-CCD-II-700TVL-0-0003Lux-Real-WDR-OSD-3D-DNR/207182_583938938.html

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mclewis1
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Reged: 02/25/06

Loc: New Brunswick, Canada

Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new

[Re: John59]
#5318100 - 07/14/12 09:35 PM

Looks awfully close ... but there's no remote control capability (RS485 connection),

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scout72
Pooh-Bah

Reged: 05/12/08

Loc: SF Bay Area

Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new

[Re: jambi99]
#5318223 - 07/14/12 11:25 PM

I use a meade f3.3 reducer with my ns11gps- similar to your scope and you do need a diagonal...the trick is to put the reducer behind the diagonal. I use a 2" diagonal to scope then a sct to 2" adaper barrell on bottom of reducer into diagonal. Top of reducer has 1.25" sct visual back with the threaded part hacked off. Camera nosepiece goes into this.

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John59
sage

Reged: 11/06/11

Loc: Round Rock,TX

Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 new

[Re: mclewis1]
#5319030 - 07/15/12 03:38 PM

I ordered the smaller version as shown in the previous post. I know it does not have remote connections, however I have lived without one for some time and I do like the compact design. I'll let everyone know how it fairs as a comparison.

Edited by John59 (07/15/12 03:39 PM)

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James Cunningham
Carpal Tunnel

Reged: 08/07/10

Loc: Maryland

Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 [Re: John59]
#5319109 - 07/15/12 04:46 PM

We have bits and pieces of what settings to use. Hemmi or anyone else should make one post of the best suggested settings and how to get that IR filter off rather than use a cigarette lighter.

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jambi99
super member

Reged: 08/14/10

Loc: Québec, Canada

Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 [Re: mclewis1]
#5322950 - 07/18/12 12:46 AM

Seem that it could work :

http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4225154/page/0/view/collapsed/sb/8/o/all

In any cases, i need a nose eyepiece and i already have the 1.25 diagonal adatper. If it don't work i might try a different way.

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jambi99
super member

Reged: 08/14/10

Loc: Québec, Canada

Re: 17 sec (x1024) Camera Sony 960h Exview HAD CCD2 [Re: Hemmi]
#5322956 - 07/18/12 12:51 AM

Seems that i've the same problem that James have. I just cannot set the camera to 1024x. I tried to set the sensup to off but it doesn't change a anything. The sensup seems to be limited to 256x. I guess you set the camera to Day time ? The camera model seems to be right: ln-320-rj11-473

Here a small video that i made showing my settings:

http://youtu.be/u4XqZOZ0aA0

Any ideas?

Thanks

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