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Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | (show all) Rick Woods Postmaster Reged: 01/27/05 Loc: Inner Solar System Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print [Re: Sarkikos]       #5379781 - 08/21/12 05:33 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   No dark nebulae in the Great Atlas. As far as I can tell, that's one of it's very few shortcomings. I hope everyone gets their atlas, and nothing weird is happening. (Don't know why there would be; there IS actually an atlas, and it's a really fine one.) Post Extras:       okieav8r Carpal Tunnel Reged: 03/01/09 Loc: Oklahoma! Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print [Re: Rick Woods]       #5379972 - 08/21/12 08:20 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Quote: No dark nebulae in the Great Atlas. As far as I can tell, that's one of it's very few shortcomings. I hope everyone gets their atlas, and nothing weird is happening. (Don't know why there would be; there IS actually an atlas, and it's a really fine one.) I'm not worried. I have all the patience in the world. I missed out on the Millenium atlas and the HB atlas. I wasn't going to let this one get my me. Post Extras:       Sarkikos Postmaster Reged: 12/18/07 Loc: Suburban Maryland, USA Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print [Re: okieav8r]       #5380098 - 08/21/12 10:01 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   I think what might be going on is that each copy of GAS is printed, put together and shipped on demand as orders are received. There might not be much quantity on hand. Or perhaps the GAS are already printed, but they still must be put together, which takes time. It may be more or less a one-man or small team operation at this point. Is there really much demand for a Great (= huge, heavy, hard copy) Atlas of the Sky in these digital times? Personally, I'm rethinking my need for such a thing after using SkySafari Pro on my tablet almost exclusively for the last half-dozen trips to my dark site - especially after realizing that the GAS doesn't have dark nebulae, which would have been useful since SSP lacks them in any useful form. Mike Post Extras:       Rick Woods Postmaster Reged: 01/27/05 Loc: Inner Solar System Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print [Re: Sarkikos]       #5380328 - 08/22/12 01:24 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Quote: Is there really much demand for a Great (= huge, heavy, hard copy) Atlas of the Sky in these digital times? Absolutely! I don't have, nor do I need (at this time), any digital star charting capabilities. I'm strictly a hardcopy chart man; and I don't think I'm alone. If the SkyGX had been printed, I and a lot of others would have scraped together our gold grickles and plunked for copies. We may be the old school, and eventually fade away; but right now, we're here, and we want big, heavy, hardcopy atlases! Printing the Tri-Atlas would be an attractive thought; I may do that one day. Post Extras:       Stellarfire Pooh-Bah Reged: 07/10/11 Loc: Switzerland Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print [Re: Rick Woods]       #5380361 - 08/22/12 01:56 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Quote: I'm strictly a hardcopy chart man; and I don't think I'm alone. We may be the old school, and eventually fade away; but right now, we're here, and we want big, heavy, hardcopy atlases! +1 Stephan Post Extras:       klassikmann member Reged: 02/07/05 Loc: south of Frankfurt/Germany Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print [Re: Rick Woods]       #5380451 - 08/22/12 03:56 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Quote: Printing the Tri-Atlas would be an attractive thought; I may do that one day. I did it! I took the A4 version of the C-Set and printed the 570 pages on A3 paper (297 x 420mm), which helps in reading the more overcrowded areas. The atlas is now contained in two A3 ring binders. The pages are secured with reinforcement rings. See also here btw.: I ordered the Great Atlas July 27th and I received it last week, which is not so surprisingly fast as you might think, because Germany is the western neighbor of Poland. Post Extras:       Sarkikos Postmaster Reged: 12/18/07 Loc: Suburban Maryland, USA Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print [Re: Rick Woods]       #5380626 - 08/22/12 08:09 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Rick, Quote: Absolutely! I don't have, nor do I need (at this time), any digital star charting capabilities. I'm strictly a hardcopy chart man; and I don't think I'm alone. A digital star atlas on a light-weight tablet can be advantageous for those who don't have an observatory. Quote: Printing the Tri-Atlas would be an attractive thought; I may do that one day. I've downloaded all the files for the Tri-Atlas and I have them on my desktop computer, but I've never printed them out or copied them to my tablet. I might do the latter. IIRC, though, there was something about the Tri-Atlas that did not appeal to me. Well, I suppose there must have been, since I'm not using it. After experiencing SkySafariPro, I don't think any hard copy atlas or series of pdf files could compare for efficiency and convenience. On the other hand, before I started using SSP, I bought some used copies of Uranometria, cut out all the charts, slipped them into clear plastic overlays, and bound them in about a dozen labeled folders. I take them with me in a police-style equipment bag when I go to the dark site. Since SSP does not show dark nebulae very well, and Uranometria does show the DN as discretely bounded entities, the printed charts should come in handy when I'm trying to locate and observe dark nebulae. I would prefer, though, that SSP incorporate more realistic representations of dark nebulae. Mike Post Extras:       Rick Woods Postmaster Reged: 01/27/05 Loc: Inner Solar System Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print [Re: Sarkikos]       #5381173 - 08/22/12 02:20 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Quote: Rick, Quote: Absolutely! I don't have, nor do I need (at this time), any digital star charting capabilities. I'm strictly a hardcopy chart man; and I don't think I'm alone. A digital star atlas on a light-weight tablet can be advantageous for those who don't have an observatory. Well, true enough, I guess; but I felt the same way before I had an observatory. Having one doesn't really make the chart situation a whole lot easier, like you may think; you still have all the same problems (charts or tablet on a table, etc), you're just indoors. But it is more convenient being able to store them out there. Post Extras:       Mike E. Carpal Tunnel Reged: 01/26/10 Loc: Moonstone Observatory Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print [Re: Rick Woods]       #5381183 - 08/22/12 02:26 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Quote: I don't have, nor do I need (at this time), any digital star charting capabilities. I'm strictly a hardcopy chart man; and I don't think I'm alone. If the SkyGX had been printed, I and a lot of others would have scraped together our gold grickles and plunked for copies. We may be the old school, and eventually fade away; but right now, we're here, and we want big, heavy, hardcopy atlases! I also agree. Many years in the future this Atlas will still be usable, where as current digital technology may go the way if the 4-track player, and you then have to buy the equivalant of an 8-track, and on, and on, and on; for those of you who are old enough to remember. Post Extras:       Dave Ittner sage Reged: 05/29/12 Loc: SF Bay Area, California Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print [Re: Mike E.]       #5381218 - 08/22/12 02:46 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   I love both. What Sky Safari and others like it have going for it is the ability to hit the "info" button and a ton of useful data pops up. Now what would really be nice is to have another button called "Object Description/Notes" which would have Burnham's or NSOG descriptions come up. As for the TriAtlas, I have all 3 series on my laptop and my IPAD. To make it run smother on the IPAD I took all chart groups and made each chart an individual PDF. So now all I have to do is use the A Series Chart index, then from there jump to the appropriate A series chart, then from there go to either the B or C series chart. It is a lot faster than opening up a group of charts and scrolling up and down. I have printed out various pages from each series to use in the field, but with my eyes getting older it sure is nice to have the ability to zoom in on the IPAD. Post Extras:       Sarkikos Postmaster Reged: 12/18/07 Loc: Suburban Maryland, USA Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print [Re: Mike E.]       #5381221 - 08/22/12 02:48 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   I had an 8-track in my '70 Chevy Nova. Post Extras:       Mike E. Carpal Tunnel Reged: 01/26/10 Loc: Moonstone Observatory Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print [Re: Sarkikos]       #5382529 - 08/23/12 10:56 AM Attachment (32 downloads) Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Recieved our copy today. Very well packed, triple boxed with styrafoam blocks surrounding the charts. A Double Wow!!, from both my Wife and I. Diffraction limited cup not included. Post Extras:       Pollux556 Pooh-Bah Reged: 12/14/08 Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print [Re: Mike E.]       #5382601 - 08/23/12 11:30 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Congrat Mike ! You will like it ! Post Extras:       Mike E. Carpal Tunnel Reged: 01/26/10 Loc: Moonstone Observatory Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print [Re: Mike E.]       #5382630 - 08/23/12 11:48 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   The only visible imperfections noted were that chart #58 had a slight wrinkle at the bottom edge, and chart #38 was missing a hole punched for the binder; no big deal, I'm good at DIY. Post Extras:       rockethead26 Carpal Tunnel Reged: 10/21/09 Loc: Indiana, USA Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print [Re: Mike E.]       #5382688 - 08/23/12 12:21 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Probably got another month here in the US before we start to see them. Post Extras:       Mike E. Carpal Tunnel Reged: 01/26/10 Loc: Moonstone Observatory Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print [Re: rockethead26]       #5382708 - 08/23/12 12:38 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Our copy came by " PARCEL + FORCE WORLDWIDE " delivery. Looks like it took them awhile to process on their end. The mailing date appears to be August 17, 2012 which works out to about a week in transit. Post Extras:       Mike E. Carpal Tunnel Reged: 01/26/10 Loc: Moonstone Observatory Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print [Re: Pollux556]       #5382788 - 08/23/12 01:14 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Quote: Congrat Mike ! You will like it ! Thanks Andre, I do already. Post Extras:       Pollux556 Pooh-Bah Reged: 12/14/08 Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print [Re: Mike E.]       #5382934 - 08/23/12 02:41 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Quote: Quote: Congrat Mike ! You will like it ! Thanks Andre, I do already. Let us know how you will appreciate it. To me, this atlas let me to travel in space sit at my table. Post Extras:       Rick Woods Postmaster Reged: 01/27/05 Loc: Inner Solar System Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print [Re: Pollux556]       #5382960 - 08/23/12 02:53 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   In case anyone missed it in a thread a year or so ago: It's a good idea to get a pack of those donut-shaped reinforcements for the binder holes. They tend to rip kind of easy, and you may want to repair them on the spot. I keep a pack of them in the binder, and just do it as needed; some folks did the whole atlas right away. Post Extras:       Stellarfire Pooh-Bah Reged: 07/10/11 Loc: Switzerland Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print [Re: Rick Woods]       #5383001 - 08/23/12 03:12 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Yes, the reinforcement rings idea was discussed in the CN thread The Last, Great Printed Star Atlas Stephan Post Extras:       Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | (show all)

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