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"Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print
      #5337804 - 07/27/12 01:57 AM

The last few are being cleared out cheap. Look in the Vendor Announcements forum. The thread says "Megasale!"

The thread was moved from here to there without leaving a pointer behind, so I'm adding this one.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5338128 - 07/27/12 09:54 AM

The link HERE !

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Pollux556]
      #5338381 - 07/27/12 12:18 PM

I bought mine two years ago by paying the $250 price. Am wondering if I can get a refund as the price now is $99

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rudra]
      #5338529 - 07/27/12 02:11 PM

I will never regret mine at 249$ 1 1/2 years ago.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Pollux556]
      #5338575 - 07/27/12 02:53 PM

In Euros that's a reduction from Euro 220.00 to Euro 82.00

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: PhilCo126]
      #5338692 - 07/27/12 04:04 PM

Thanks for the tip !


EDIT: Ordered.

Edited by Mike E. (07/27/12 06:23 PM)


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Mike E.]
      #5338919 - 07/27/12 07:02 PM

Wow! This is definitely a case of get it while you can. The next MSA?

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Mike E.]
      #5338946 - 07/27/12 07:22 PM

Quote:

Thanks for the tip !


EDIT: Ordered.




Great !!!

Mike did you ordered at 99$ including shipping ? This will take three months to receive it.

Edited by Pollux556 (07/27/12 10:51 PM)


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Pollux556]
      #5339459 - 07/28/12 04:31 AM

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Mike did you ordered at 99$ including shipping ? This will take three months to receive it.




Should have it within a couple of weeks, as I am presently in The United Kingdom; the delivered price here is £64 British pounds, which works out to $100.79 at todays exchange rate.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Mike E.]
      #5340276 - 07/28/12 03:44 PM

Thanks for posting this! I just ordered mine.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: neutrino]
      #5340292 - 07/28/12 03:58 PM

Just ordered one too. I had been on the fence about getting one but for $99 I couldn't say no, especially since is the last chance to get one.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: turtle86]
      #5342242 - 07/29/12 07:25 PM

Thanks for the notice, Rick. I ordered one too.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: rookie]
      #5344793 - 07/31/12 08:12 AM

I just ordered one through PayPal. I am somewhat concerned that the sale price of $99 was not automatically inserted into the order page. I had to put the price in myself. But so far everything else went well.

I hope this is not going to be one of those deals where you order the item, only to eventually receive an email saying that it is no longer available. I just went through that when I was trying to acquire a Pentax XO 5. Four US vendors did that to me before I finally bought one from APM in Germany.

The last few times I've gone to my dark site, I've worked entirely from SkySafari Pro on my tablet. But I couldn't pass up this opportunity to get the Great Sky Atlas at a bargain price!

Thanks for the heads up, Rick!

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Sarkikos]
      #5344852 - 07/31/12 08:51 AM

Until you select your country in the dropdown of the PayPal page, the fields do not fill in. The dropdown defaults to Euros I think. I did the same thing at first until I discovered the country dropdown. The system was acting squirrely until I did that. Once United States is selected, the field filled in at $99 and the payment went through.

If there is a question whether or not your sale went through, I would PM Piotr and confirm.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: rockethead26]
      #5344927 - 07/31/12 09:37 AM

Jim,

The transaction details on PayPal show my correct address including country, the correct dollar amount, item purchased, and vendor name. I also received an email from PayPal verifying this information. So I'm confident everything went as it should.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Sarkikos]
      #5345241 - 07/31/12 12:50 PM

Quote:

Jim,

The transaction details on PayPal show my correct address including country, the correct dollar amount, item purchased, and vendor name. I also received an email from PayPal verifying this information. So I'm confident everything went as it should.

Mike




Good, just wanted to make sure.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: rockethead26]
      #5348747 - 08/02/12 01:36 PM

The 1st of 2 of mine just arrived. Wow. It looks great. Will be spending time putting it together this weekend.

(ordered a 2nd copy to come super slow, as I know there will be a friend or two that will want this atlas)


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Dave Ittner]
      #5348753 - 08/02/12 01:43 PM

I ordered a second copy for my brother.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Dave Ittner]
      #5348773 - 08/02/12 01:56 PM

Dave,

How long did it take for the GAS to reach your house from order to arrival?

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Sarkikos]
      #5348779 - 08/02/12 02:00 PM

Hmm, I think I ordered it the same day you posted about it (prior to thread getting moved). I think there was a few days of delay with it being the weekend over in Poland so he wasn't able to start getting them out till Monday. So ignoring that, 4 days to USA.

I do like the glossy paper he uses. Looks like it will hold up to dew quite well.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Dave Ittner]
      #5349854 - 08/03/12 08:22 AM

Amazon still wants over $250.00 for the Atlas.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Dave Ittner]
      #5351030 - 08/03/12 11:10 PM

Thanks for the heads up on this... I just ordered one. Not in a hurry and willing to wait, so I used the cheap delivery. I haven't had it for the first 62 years of my life, so I can wait a couple of months.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rudra]
      #5351397 - 08/04/12 09:26 AM

I bought my first copy one year ago at the regular price of $250. I could not resist to order now a second copy at the $99 sell-off price. Good things do not come often - it is great to have them twice

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Stellarfire]
      #5351412 - 08/04/12 09:43 AM

I'd suppose the Great Atlas is a victim of computerized atlases, but I still like "books." I guess I've gotta wait a couple of months, but looking forward to putting it together and making some acetate FOV circles...

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: bumm]
      #5351947 - 08/04/12 04:21 PM

I'm sure after waiting two months for mine, I will have forgotten about it and it will come as a complete surprise one day. I love surprises!

Edited by rockethead26 (08/04/12 09:39 PM)


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: rockethead26]
      #5356777 - 08/07/12 04:55 PM Attachment (36 downloads)

Been waiting ten days now, I'm getting.....

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Mike E.]
      #5356815 - 08/07/12 05:35 PM

Seven days of waiting for me. Not stressed yet ... though this thread is in my favorites, and I check back if anyone adds a new post.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Mike E.]
      #5357875 - 08/08/12 11:35 AM

Quote:

Been waiting ten days now, I'm getting.....




Where do you live? It said two months to USA. Though I'm not aware of any service that takes that long.

Only USA poster to receive it, looks like they paid extra for postage.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Alvan Clark]
      #5358223 - 08/08/12 02:55 PM

I live in Maryland. I didn't pay extra, just the straight $99. I'm not in a hurry to get the Atlas, but I do want to get it within a "reasonable" amount of time.

I bought a used eyepiece from someone in Poland earlier this year and it took over a month to arrive. It was detained in NYC Customs for about two weeks. I bought an eyepiece from Belarus about the same time and it only took a week to reach me. Last month I ordered an XO 5 from APM in Germany and it arrived within a week.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Sarkikos]
      #5358250 - 08/08/12 03:10 PM

I didn't get tracking info after I placed my order, and don't even know how it's being shipped. Two to four weeks does seem reasonable enough, especially if it gets held up in customs...

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Alvan Clark]
      #5358332 - 08/08/12 03:56 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Been waiting ten days now, I'm getting.....




Where do you live? It said two months to USA. Though I'm not aware of any service that takes that long.

Only USA poster to receive it, looks like they paid extra for postage.




I'm presently in the country of Wales, in the United Kingdom. Delivery time by regular mail estimated at two weeks according to the website. I have a feeling there may be a customs issue, where value added tax (VAT) may be lumped on to the purchase price; here in the UK its twenty percent (20%).


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Mike E.]
      #5358730 - 08/08/12 08:12 PM

I paid for mine on the 14th of November, 2010, and it arrived at my house here in New Zealand on the 11th of February, 2011. No doubt the xmas mail rush added to that delivery time.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: BPO]
      #5378324 - 08/20/12 08:38 PM

Just checking to see if anyone else who recently ordered at the closeout price has received his copy yet. Still waiting myself...

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: turtle86]
      #5378412 - 08/20/12 09:27 PM

Quote:

Just checking to see if anyone else who recently ordered at the closeout price has received his copy yet. Still waiting myself...




Not yet but without extra paying, it will take three month to receive it in North America. Fortunately I have my own copy.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Pollux556]
      #5378521 - 08/20/12 10:39 PM

I ordered mine on July 31st. Still waiting patiently ...

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Sarkikos]
      #5378527 - 08/20/12 10:44 PM

Why do deliveries from Poland to the US take so long? From Germany: a little less than a week. From Belarus: about a week. From China (PRC): two weeks. From Poland: three months? I ordered a used eyepiece from Poland and it took over a month. Don't the US Customs trust Poland?

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Sarkikos]
      #5378892 - 08/21/12 07:33 AM

Ordered on July 28th, the financial transaction has gone through, still waiting. I'm presently located in the UK.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Mike E.]
      #5379209 - 08/21/12 11:37 AM

Ordered mine at the end of July and am still waiting. I'm guessing that the "economy shipping" means it's coming over on a boat. Still, that's only a 2 week or less trip. I don't know why it should take 2 months.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: RodgerHouTex]
      #5379389 - 08/21/12 01:16 PM

Ordered July 27 to USA. To date no Atlas, no answer to PM.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Photoner]
      #5379495 - 08/21/12 02:19 PM

The GAS has 70,000 deep-sky objects. Are any of them dark nebulae? How many DN are on the charts? If DN are included, how are they depicted?

I have SkySafariPro on my tablet. One thing I don't like about SSP, is that it shows DN as squares of various sizes. Not very helpful at the telescope. I'd rather see the dark nebulae depicted as objects with discrete borders.

Mike


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Sarkikos]
      #5379781 - 08/21/12 05:33 PM

No dark nebulae in the Great Atlas. As far as I can tell, that's one of it's very few shortcomings.
I hope everyone gets their atlas, and nothing weird is happening. (Don't know why there would be; there IS actually an atlas, and it's a really fine one.)


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5379972 - 08/21/12 08:20 PM

Quote:

No dark nebulae in the Great Atlas. As far as I can tell, that's one of it's very few shortcomings.
I hope everyone gets their atlas, and nothing weird is happening. (Don't know why there would be; there IS actually an atlas, and it's a really fine one.)




I'm not worried. I have all the patience in the world. I missed out on the Millenium atlas and the HB atlas. I wasn't going to let this one get my me.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: okieav8r]
      #5380098 - 08/21/12 10:01 PM

I think what might be going on is that each copy of GAS is printed, put together and shipped on demand as orders are received. There might not be much quantity on hand. Or perhaps the GAS are already printed, but they still must be put together, which takes time. It may be more or less a one-man or small team operation at this point.

Is there really much demand for a Great (= huge, heavy, hard copy) Atlas of the Sky in these digital times? Personally, I'm rethinking my need for such a thing after using SkySafari Pro on my tablet almost exclusively for the last half-dozen trips to my dark site - especially after realizing that the GAS doesn't have dark nebulae, which would have been useful since SSP lacks them in any useful form.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Sarkikos]
      #5380328 - 08/22/12 01:24 AM

Quote:

Is there really much demand for a Great (= huge, heavy, hard copy) Atlas of the Sky in these digital times?




Absolutely! I don't have, nor do I need (at this time), any digital star charting capabilities. I'm strictly a hardcopy chart man; and I don't think I'm alone.
If the SkyGX had been printed, I and a lot of others would have scraped together our gold grickles and plunked for copies. We may be the old school, and eventually fade away; but right now, we're here, and we want big, heavy, hardcopy atlases!

Printing the Tri-Atlas would be an attractive thought; I may do that one day.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5380361 - 08/22/12 01:56 AM

Quote:

I'm strictly a hardcopy chart man; and I don't think I'm alone.

We may be the old school, and eventually fade away; but right now, we're here, and we want big, heavy, hardcopy atlases!





+1

Stephan


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5380451 - 08/22/12 03:56 AM

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Printing the Tri-Atlas would be an attractive thought; I may do that one day.



I did it! I took the A4 version of the C-Set and printed the 570 pages on A3 paper (297 x 420mm), which helps in reading the more overcrowded areas. The atlas is now contained in two A3 ring binders. The pages are secured with reinforcement rings. See also here

btw.: I ordered the Great Atlas July 27th and I received it last week, which is not so surprisingly fast as you might think, because Germany is the western neighbor of Poland.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5380626 - 08/22/12 08:09 AM

Rick,

Quote:

Absolutely! I don't have, nor do I need (at this time), any digital star charting capabilities. I'm strictly a hardcopy chart man; and I don't think I'm alone.




A digital star atlas on a light-weight tablet can be advantageous for those who don't have an observatory.

Quote:

Printing the Tri-Atlas would be an attractive thought; I may do that one day.




I've downloaded all the files for the Tri-Atlas and I have them on my desktop computer, but I've never printed them out or copied them to my tablet. I might do the latter. IIRC, though, there was something about the Tri-Atlas that did not appeal to me. Well, I suppose there must have been, since I'm not using it. After experiencing SkySafariPro, I don't think any hard copy atlas or series of pdf files could compare for efficiency and convenience.

On the other hand, before I started using SSP, I bought some used copies of Uranometria, cut out all the charts, slipped them into clear plastic overlays, and bound them in about a dozen labeled folders. I take them with me in a police-style equipment bag when I go to the dark site. Since SSP does not show dark nebulae very well, and Uranometria does show the DN as discretely bounded entities, the printed charts should come in handy when I'm trying to locate and observe dark nebulae.

I would prefer, though, that SSP incorporate more realistic representations of dark nebulae.

Mike


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Sarkikos]
      #5381173 - 08/22/12 02:20 PM

Quote:

Rick,

Quote:

Absolutely! I don't have, nor do I need (at this time), any digital star charting capabilities. I'm strictly a hardcopy chart man; and I don't think I'm alone.




A digital star atlas on a light-weight tablet can be advantageous for those who don't have an observatory.




Well, true enough, I guess; but I felt the same way before I had an observatory.
Having one doesn't really make the chart situation a whole lot easier, like you may think; you still have all the same problems (charts or tablet on a table, etc), you're just indoors. But it is more convenient being able to store them out there.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5381183 - 08/22/12 02:26 PM

Quote:

I don't have, nor do I need (at this time), any digital star charting capabilities. I'm strictly a hardcopy chart man; and I don't think I'm alone.
If the SkyGX had been printed, I and a lot of others would have scraped together our gold grickles and plunked for copies. We may be the old school, and eventually fade away; but right now, we're here, and we want big, heavy, hardcopy atlases!




I also agree. Many years in the future this Atlas will still be usable, where as current digital technology may go the way if the 4-track player, and you then have to buy the equivalant of an 8-track, and on, and on, and on; for those of you who are old enough to remember.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Mike E.]
      #5381218 - 08/22/12 02:46 PM

I love both. What Sky Safari and others like it have going for it is the ability to hit the "info" button and a ton of useful data pops up. Now what would really be nice is to have another button called "Object Description/Notes" which would have Burnham's or NSOG descriptions come up.

As for the TriAtlas, I have all 3 series on my laptop and my IPAD. To make it run smother on the IPAD I took all chart groups and made each chart an individual PDF. So now all I have to do is use the A Series Chart index, then from there jump to the appropriate A series chart, then from there go to either the B or C series chart. It is a lot faster than opening up a group of charts and scrolling up and down.

I have printed out various pages from each series to use in the field, but with my eyes getting older it sure is nice to have the ability to zoom in on the IPAD.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Mike E.]
      #5381221 - 08/22/12 02:48 PM

I had an 8-track in my '70 Chevy Nova.

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      #5382529 - 08/23/12 10:56 AM Attachment (32 downloads)

Recieved our copy today. Very well packed, triple boxed with styrafoam blocks surrounding the charts.

A Double Wow!!, from both my Wife and I.

Diffraction limited cup not included.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Mike E.]
      #5382601 - 08/23/12 11:30 AM

Congrat Mike ! You will like it !

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Mike E.]
      #5382630 - 08/23/12 11:48 AM

The only visible imperfections noted were that chart #58 had a slight wrinkle at the bottom edge, and chart #38 was missing a hole punched for the binder; no big deal, I'm good at DIY.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Mike E.]
      #5382688 - 08/23/12 12:21 PM

Probably got another month here in the US before we start to see them.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: rockethead26]
      #5382708 - 08/23/12 12:38 PM

Our copy came by " PARCEL + FORCE WORLDWIDE " delivery.
Looks like it took them awhile to process on their end. The mailing date appears to be August 17, 2012 which works out to about a week in transit.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Pollux556]
      #5382788 - 08/23/12 01:14 PM

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Congrat Mike ! You will like it !




Thanks Andre, I do already.


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      #5382934 - 08/23/12 02:41 PM

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Congrat Mike ! You will like it !




Thanks Andre, I do already.




Let us know how you will appreciate it. To me, this atlas let me to travel in space sit at my table.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Pollux556]
      #5382960 - 08/23/12 02:53 PM

In case anyone missed it in a thread a year or so ago:
It's a good idea to get a pack of those donut-shaped reinforcements for the binder holes. They tend to rip kind of easy, and you may want to repair them on the spot. I keep a pack of them in the binder, and just do it as needed; some folks did the whole atlas right away.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5383001 - 08/23/12 03:12 PM

Yes, the reinforcement rings idea was discussed in the CN thread The Last, Great Printed Star Atlas

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Rick was kind enough to share the idea of putting binder hole reinforcements on the maps about two years ago and heeding his advice I put them on all the sheets both sides. The activity took me like 3 hours to complete but I can rest assured that I wouldn't be seeing any tear on the binder holes of the maps.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Mike E.]
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Recieved our copy today. Very well packed, triple boxed with styrafoam blocks surrounding the charts.

A Double Wow!!, from both my Wife and I.

Diffraction limited cup not included.




Excellent packaging job! Thanks for sharing the picture.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: turtle86]
      #5384848 - 08/24/12 04:10 PM

Has anyone in the US purchased one recently? I've been waiting on delivery for about 3 weeks since purchase.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: davidpitre]
      #5385043 - 08/24/12 06:35 PM

I ordered one on Aug 3rd... The thing said two months, so I figure two months. If there's a glut of orders on account of the going out of print sale, I'll cut 'em some slack and wait longer.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: bumm]
      #5385363 - 08/24/12 09:59 PM

Great. I'm certainly in no hurry.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: davidpitre]
      #5385744 - 08/25/12 03:15 AM

It's worth waiting for.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5386135 - 08/25/12 11:14 AM

I cancelled my order yesterday. Piotr immediately refunded the money to my PayPal account.

One advantage to having a relatively long time between order and shipment of a product, is that you have the opporunity to reconsider your purchase. I kept asking myself, "Do I really need a large scale printed star atlas?" and "Do I really want a large scale printed star atlas?" The answer was a consistent "No" to the first question, which gradually led to a consistent "No" to the second.

For the last several trips to my dark site, I don't think I've consulted a printed atlas more than once per night. Most of those nights, I never even opened a printed atlas. Now I virtually exclusively use SkySafari Pro on my Android tablet to star hop and to read descriptions of DSO.

The only defect I see in SSP is its lack of naturalistic depictions of dark nebulae. SSP depicts DN as squares of various sizes. Not exacly useful in the field. But the GAS does not show dark nebulae at all. So the GAS would be of no use to me.

On the other hand, SSP "contains over 15.3 million stars from the Hubble Guide Star catalog, plus 740,000 galaxies down to 18th magnitude, and over 580,000 solar system objects - including every comet and asteroid ever discovered." (SSP website) How could any printed atlas hope to compete with that?

About a year ago I purchased the "Cambridge Atlas of Herschel Objects." I didn't think through that purchase very well either. Sure, it contains all the Herschel Objects. But on the charts they are labeled with the antiquated H designations, not the modern NGC numbers! An utterly useless purchase for me. I have never taken the CAHO into the field. Sure, there is an index that gives the equivalent NGC number for all H designations. But why would I want to go through that hastle? (By the way, if a publishing house comes out with a similar atlas which substitutes NGC for H labels, I would still consider buying it.)

OK, folks. Now just because I cancelled my order doesn't mean anyone else has to! If you have an actual need for the GAS or even just "want" it for whatever reason, go for it. We don't all have to follow the same course in this hobby. After all, it is a hobby!

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      #5386292 - 08/25/12 01:03 PM

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I cancelled my order yesterday. Piotr immediately refunded the money to my PayPal account.




Mike, how did you do that ? By Email to Piotr ?

Thanks


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Sarkikos]
      #5386302 - 08/25/12 01:08 PM

Well, this demonstrates the "different strokes for different folks" principle. I'd expect the reason for the Great Atlas going out of print is competition from computerized atlases, and I'll admit I've considered going in that direction. However, I've always been comfortable spreading charts out on the living room floor and planning out a starhop with my little FOV circles on acetate... Maybe it's because I'm kinda old. My wife and I both have Kindles, but while hers gets constant use, mine pretty much just sits off the end of the couch while I buy dusty old books. In the event that I DO find the Great Atlas to be an unused white elephant, I think there will eventually be a collectors market for such things. Most likely, large, detailed, printed atlases are becoming a thing of the past.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Pollux556]
      #5386306 - 08/25/12 01:10 PM

Yes, I just sent an email to him. I got a prompt response and refund.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Sarkikos]
      #5386311 - 08/25/12 01:13 PM

If I hadn't already gotten accustomed to SSP on my tablet, and saw the clear advantages, I would probably still have the GAS on order, patiently waiting for its arrival. I did think about just putting the GAS together, never using it, and reselling it later to make a profit. But I have a small house that is already full of things that I should sell.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: bumm]
      #5386441 - 08/25/12 02:29 PM

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I ordered one on Aug 3rd... The thing said two months, so I figure two months. If there's a glut of orders on account of the going out of print sale, I'll cut 'em some slack and wait longer.




By my invoice number, which is less than 225, I wouldn't think there has been a glut of orders ?


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Sarkikos]
      #5386497 - 08/25/12 03:13 PM

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About a year ago I purchased the "Cambridge Atlas of Herschel Objects." I didn't think through that purchase very well either. Sure, it contains all the Herschel Objects. But on the charts they are labeled with the antiquated H designations, not the modern NGC numbers! An utterly useless purchase for me. I have never taken the CAHO into the field. Sure, there is an index that gives the equivalent NGC number for all H designations. But why would I want to go through that hastle?




Mike,

You've mentioned this before. I absolutely can't understand your reasoning on this one. It's an atlas showing Herschel Objects! Of course, that's what is going to be shown on the charts - otherwise, it would be a standard NGC-oriented atlas like all the others. It's meant for finding Herschel Objects. What value would an atlas of Herschel Objects be if it didn't designate them as such? When they became Herschel Objects, there was no NGC. The only conceivable point in such an atlas is finding Herschel Objects - all of which start with "H".
Otherwise, all you need do is print off a list of the Herschel catalog from the web, and use the U2K.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5386569 - 08/25/12 04:01 PM

Rick,

Yes, I realize what you are saying, and I should have known better when I bought the CAHO.

But here is my reasoning: Yes, I want the atlas to show ALL the Herschel Objects, as those 2500 or so objects are a grand list for observers to tackle once they get past the H400, H400 II or Herschel 3. But I do not want the H designations on the chart! They only complicate matters, as they are defunct designations.

It would have been better if only NGC numbers had been used on the charts themselves, or perhaps the H labels beside the NGC numbers, or have the H Objects in a different script BUT labeled by the NGC numbers on the charts. The H designations should have been in an index at the back with their equivalent NGC numbers.

To me these alterations to the CAHO would have made it much more useful as a field atlas. I don't like atlases to be mostly read in the study. I want them to be easy to use, and setup in the most convenient manner for actual use in the field.

Simply put, I want all the Herschel Objects on the charts, but I do not want the Herschel designations on the charts! I've got nothing against the Herschel Objects. I just don't like the outdated Herschel designations.

The bottom line is that I look at the 2500 or so Herschel Objects as an observing list, not a source of antiquarian interest.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Mike E.]
      #5386838 - 08/25/12 06:27 PM

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By my invoice number, which is less than 225, I wouldn't think there has been a glut of orders ?




No, and for the same reason that the MSA went out of print and the SkyGX was never printed: observers - myself included - are going more and more to software atlases.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Sarkikos]
      #5387397 - 08/26/12 02:04 AM

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Simply put, I want all the Herschel Objects on the charts, but I do not want the Herschel designations on the charts! I've got nothing against the Herschel Objects. I just don't like the outdated Herschel designations.

The bottom line is that I look at the 2500 or so Herschel Objects as an observing list, not a source of antiquarian interest.





Well, I understand what you're saying. But, since you already have the atlas, maybe you should get into the Herschel mindset: Forget about the NGC designations completely, and go for them *soley* as Herschel objects. If one is really a killer object, you can look up the NGC number later. But just go native on this one - as though the Herschel numbers were the only ones there were.

I bet you'll enjoy it a lot more if you do that. After all, it's still an observing list, and a rose by any other name...

(In fact, I may have just talked myself into getting a copy...)

Edit: Yep, I just ordered one. At least SOMEbody listens to me!

Edited by Rick Woods (08/26/12 02:39 AM)


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5387953 - 08/26/12 01:11 PM

Rick,

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Well, I understand what you're saying. But, since you already have the atlas, maybe you should get into the Herschel mindset: Forget about the NGC designations completely, and go for them *soley* as Herschel objects. If one is really a killer object, you can look up the NGC number later. But just go native on this one - as though the Herschel numbers were the only ones there were.




That's not happening. My prime directive when I travel 50 miles to my dark site (a two-hour round trip) is to concentrate on finding and observing objects that I've never seen before, and especially those that I could never see from my red-zone glare-ridden home. (Thanks, scotophobic neighbors! )

Having to go through the extra step of translating back and forth between H numbers and NGC numbers would just slow me down. I see no benefit to that at all. I notice, for instance, that SkySafari Pro does not include the H numbers among its extensive listings of alternative names for DSO. I would need to copy the index at the back of CAHO for a reference. Not very efficient.

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I bet you'll enjoy it a lot more if you do that. After all, it's still an observing list, and a rose by any other name...




No, I think having to deal with the H numbers as an intermediary between the objects and their modern NGC numbers would be a hastle, would slow down my progress, would detract from my enjoyment.

Quote:

(In fact, I may have just talked myself into getting a copy...)

Edit: Yep, I just ordered one. At least SOMEbody listens to me!




Lately, I've been talking myself out of further purchases!

I think I'll keep my copy of CAHO. IIRC, I only paid about $35 for it. Hardly worth the effort to sell it.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Sarkikos]
      #5389011 - 08/27/12 12:02 AM

Well, I hope you find some way to enjoy it, Mike.
Maybe someday, Herschelmania will hit you, and pow! you'll be all set!


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      #5389257 - 08/27/12 07:13 AM

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Edit: Yep, I just ordered one. At least SOMEbody listens to me!




Rick, did you really ordered another one ?


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Pollux556]
      #5389530 - 08/27/12 10:50 AM

You know something that hasn't been mentioned is how limiting digital atlases are. I have Sky Safari Pro on my Itouch and Ipad. Before I got my Ipad it was basically unusable because of the small screen on the Itouch. Same would be true for an Iphone. The Ipad makes it more usable, but if you put it on a Mac, now your carrying around something that weighs as much as a printed star atlas.

Another drawback is the constant zooming in and out and in and out. A printed sky atlas is already at its max resolution. So I just look at that region of the sky and look through my telescope. Very easy.

Maybe when they make an Ipad with a screen that's 11"X17", then I'll consider going all digital. But then again I can't make any notes on it. Darn!


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: RodgerHouTex]
      #5389597 - 08/27/12 11:40 AM

I think the way some folks are getting around the constant zooming in and out while using SSP is that they set up observation lists which allow them to jump directly to the selected object. This requires some planning to be done prior to the observing session though.

In the case of printed star atlases you still have the equivalent of zooming in/out in that you have to flip pages which can be time consuming (and in some cases have to grab a different volume).

There is a 3rd way, load up a bunch of PDF based charts (ie TriAtlas A/B/C series) onto the IPAD.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: RodgerHouTex]
      #5389697 - 08/27/12 12:34 PM

Rodger,

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You know something that hasn't been mentioned is how limiting digital atlases are. I have Sky Safari Pro on my Itouch and Ipad. Before I got my Ipad it was basically unusable because of the small screen on the Itouch. Same would be true for an Iphone. The Ipad makes it more usable, but if you put it on a Mac, now your carrying around something that weighs as much as a printed star atlas.




I always thought that having a star atlas on a phone or any device that small would give too contrictive a view. I never even attempted it.

So a couple years ago I tried SkyTools3 on a "mini"-laptop. I like to hold any star atlas - whether printed or electronic - in my hands while I'm observing at the eyepiece. I want to make a direct comparison between the star field in the eyepiece and the configuration on the chart, no jumping back and forth to a star atlas on a table or in the van. The laptop's screen did give a larger view but though the laptop was supposed to be "mini," it was still too heavy to hold more than a couple minutes. I only used it twice at my dark site.

Everything changed when I bought an Android tablet last winter. SkySafari Pro gives me nearly everything I need in a star atlas - they keep making improvements - in a light-weight format that I can hold for hours at a time. Problem solved.

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Another drawback is the constant zooming in and out and in and out. A printed sky atlas is already at its max resolution. So I just look at that region of the sky and look through my telescope. Very easy. Maybe when they make an Ipad with a screen that's 11"X17", then I'll consider going all digital. But then again I can't make any notes on it. Darn!




The constant zooming may be necessary for an iPhone or other device with a small screen. I do not zoom constantly with my tablet, which IIRC, is about 11" long. But if I need to zoom, it is easy and quick by either a two-finger sweep or on-screen buttons. I don't see that it's a problem. I like being able to change the image scale on-the-fly.

And I can make notes on each object in SSP on the tablet.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Dave Ittner]
      #5389704 - 08/27/12 12:40 PM

Dave,

Quote:

I think the way some folks are getting around the constant zooming in and out while using SSP is that they set up observation lists which allow them to jump directly to the selected object. This requires some planning to be done prior to the observing session though.




That's exactly what I do. I only bother going to my dark site on a clear night or two (three nights if I'm lucky) around New Moon. So I have the rest of the month to set up an observing list geared to my telescope, the date I'll be at the dark site, and the objects I want to see - usually only objects I've never seen before.

Quote:

In the case of printed star atlases you still have the equivalent of zooming in/out in that you have to flip pages which can be time consuming (and in some cases have to grab a different volume).

There is a 3rd way, load up a bunch of PDF based charts (ie TriAtlas A/B/C series) onto the IPAD.




Zooming and searching in SkySafari Pro on a tablet is much quicker and easier than either of those options.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Pollux556]
      #5389945 - 08/27/12 03:16 PM

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Quote:


Edit: Yep, I just ordered one. At least SOMEbody listens to me!




Rick, did you really ordered another one ?




Heh, it took me a minute to understand what you were asking.

No; I ordered a Cambridge Atlas of Herschel Objects. The thing I was trying to talk Sarkikos into liking.
I considered ordering another Great Atlas, since the price is so good; but my good sense prevailed. It's really big, and I don't plan to abuse the one I have.


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Zooming and searching in SkySafari Pro on a tablet is much quicker and easier than either of those options.





True. But I am an old fashioned chart reader. I am attaching a section of the TriAtlas A-11 chart near Ophiuchus. I really like this wide overview the chart provides with a significant number of observable objects shown. Something that is hard to achieve with SSP IMHO.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Dave Ittner]
      #5390130 - 08/27/12 05:22 PM

Yes. I really like the ease of searching and zooming in Sky Safari Pro, but also I really like the large overview that only a large printed atlas such as Sky Atlas 2000 can provide. Who says you can't have it all?

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Dave Ittner]
      #5390157 - 08/27/12 05:39 PM

Yes, I do like the look of that chart of Scutum and its environs from the TriAtlas. And it includes dark nebulae! Maybe I'll go ahead and copy the TriAtlas pdfs to my tablet after all.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5390227 - 08/27/12 06:38 PM

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I considered ordering another Great Atlas, since the price is so good; but my good sense prevailed. It's really big, and I don't plan to abuse the one I have.




Ha !


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: turtle86]
      #5390282 - 08/27/12 07:17 PM

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Yes. I really like the ease of searching and zooming in Sky Safari Pro, but also I really like the large overview that only a large printed atlas such as Sky Atlas 2000 can provide. Who says you can't have it all?




I like SkySafari on my iPad a lot, too, but interestingly I finally set the display for monochrome like in a printed atlas. For me, it is still the easiest to read display. One real advantage that a digital atlas has over a printed one is that the display can be reversed horizontally or vertically to match the scope you're using. However, I still like a printed atlas best.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: turtle86]
      #5390439 - 08/27/12 09:15 PM

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Yes. I really like the ease of searching and zooming in Sky Safari Pro, but also I really like the large overview that only a large printed atlas such as Sky Atlas 2000 can provide. Who says you can't have it all?


When i have friends and guests come over, they are impressed with the collection of books I have and love flipping though pages of the books and atlases in my small book shelf. Alas, they do not feel the same way about the computer atlases. For them those are just another piece of software, they would not be using ever.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Mike McShan]
      #5390948 - 08/28/12 07:19 AM

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I like SkySafari on my iPad a lot, too, but interestingly I finally set the display for monochrome like in a printed atlas.




Monochrome is the best way to display SSP in the dark in any case, since you really should place a red filter such as Rubylinth over the screen. I use a sheet of Rubylinth plus a sheet of Astrogizmo to get the appropriate light level for dark sky.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Sarkikos]
      #5390982 - 08/28/12 08:12 AM

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Monochrome is the best way to display SSP in the dark in any case, since you really should place a red filter such as Rubylinth over the screen. I use a sheet of Rubylinth plus a sheet of Astrogizmo to get the appropriate light level for dark sky.




Agree 100% about using the Rubylinth filter - it is the only effective way to prevent accidental unwanted white light flashes. I don't know about Astrogizmo though, so I need to check it out.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Mike McShan]
      #5390998 - 08/28/12 08:28 AM

I advise against using Astrogizmo by itself. The film is not dark enough and it lets through colors besides red! What good is that? But it sticks to the tablet's screen better than the Rubylinth. Together, they are a good combination that reaches an appropriate level of dimness for dark sky.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Sarkikos]
      #5391010 - 08/28/12 08:36 AM

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I advise against using Astrogizmo by itself. The film is not dark enough and it lets through colors besides red! What good is that? But it sticks to the tablet's screen better than the Rubylinth.




OK, that's good to know. I looked at www.astrogizmos.com/ - lots of interesting stuff there, especially that bino chair!

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Mike McShan]
      #5391537 - 08/28/12 01:51 PM

Actually, I find that using Astrogizmos film *plus* the SSP night vision mode works just fine.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: turtle86]
      #5394629 - 08/30/12 10:15 AM

I have found the Sky Safari app on my iPad to be a wonderful companion at the telescope. I now want to hook up DSCs to the scope and interface it with the iPad.

My back is starting to complain about looking up through the telrad

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: turtle86]
      #5394650 - 08/30/12 10:28 AM

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Actually, I find that using Astrogizmos film *plus* the SSP night vision mode works just fine.




That might be OK unless you switch back and forth between SSP and other apps. But in any case I believe my Android tablet shows white function "buttons" at the lower edge of the screen. They would bleed through the AstroGizmo.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Sarkikos]
      #5394741 - 08/30/12 11:10 AM

Getting back on topic. First person in North America to receive their copy using the "economy shipping option (2 to 3 months) should post about it.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: RodgerHouTex]
      #5394772 - 08/30/12 11:33 AM

I ordered mine this morning with the expedited shipping and will let you guys know when it arrives.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Undermidnight]
      #5418838 - 09/13/12 09:54 AM

I purchased a first copy one year ago at regular price.

I purchased a second copy at saleout price on August 04, 2012. It reached Switzerland after one month, passed Swiss Customs processing on September 12, and was delivered to me September 13, in well-packed and perfect condition.

Thank you, Piotr!


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Stellarfire]
      #5419215 - 09/13/12 01:34 PM

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I purchased a first copy one year ago at regular price.

I purchased a second copy at saleout price on August 04, 2012. It reached Switzerland after one month, passed Swiss Customs processing on September 12, and was delivered to me September 13, in well-packed and perfect condition.

Thank you, Piotr!


Stephan




Just curious Stephan, did you bought your second GAotS for you ?


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Dave Ittner]
      #5419273 - 09/13/12 02:00 PM

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In the case of printed star atlases you still have the equivalent of zooming in/out in that you have to flip pages which can be time consuming (and in some cases have to grab a different volume).





Dave,

What you describe above is part of what I love about printed atlases. The tactile element; the personal contact with the charts themselves, the handling of the different volumes - these are benefits of printed atlases to me!


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5419671 - 09/13/12 06:07 PM

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The tactile element; the personal contact with the charts themselves, the handling of the different volumes - these are benefits of printed atlases to me!


Same here. I like it when friends and acquaintances come over and atlases in my study catch their attention and they flip through it with certain curiosity and ask questions. I am not sure, they would feel the same way, if I had a software atlas on running on my PC. I do not think they would be bothered to ask about what it is. For them, it would just be a piece of software they will never use. Also for the same reason, I use typewriters to write letters, applications, memos, invitations etc.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rudra]
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Ok,

My atlas showed up yesterday (actually, they attempted to deliver it on the 11th, but I was not at home.)

My initial impression is that it is huge! Much bigger than I anticipated. The charts are wonderfully detailed.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5419966 - 09/13/12 09:05 PM

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What you describe above is part of what I love about printed atlases. The tactile element; the personal contact with the charts themselves, the handling of the different volumes - these are benefits of printed atlases to me!






I agree !


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Undermidnight]
      #5419970 - 09/13/12 09:06 PM

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Ok,

My atlas showed up yesterday (actually, they attempted to deliver it on the 11th, but I was not at home.)

My initial impression is that it is huge! Much bigger than I anticipated. The charts are wonderfully detailed.

Jason




Congrat, you will like it for long time.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Pollux556]
      #5420311 - 09/14/12 01:14 AM

Quote:

Quote:

I purchased a first copy one year ago at regular price.

I purchased a second copy at saleout price on August 04, 2012. It reached Switzerland after one month, passed Swiss Customs processing on September 12, and was delivered to me September 13, in well-packed and perfect condition.

Thank you, Piotr!


Stephan




Just curious Stephan, did you bought your second GAotS for you ?




Yes, I buyed the second copy for myself. It is always good to have backup or spare charts of this outstanding Atlas. When it is gone, it is gone.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Stellarfire]
      #5421066 - 09/14/12 02:41 PM

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Yes, I buyed the second copy for myself. It is always good to have backup or spare charts of this outstanding Atlas. When it is gone, it is gone.

Stephan




I agree. I bought a second copy for my brother but I will have acces to it.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Pollux556]
      #5427204 - 09/18/12 11:44 AM

This is on sale at Agena Astro for $149. A little more but for USA buyers who don't want to wait for shipping from Poland.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Alvan Clark]
      #5427303 - 09/18/12 12:34 PM

I received mine this morning! I went home for lunch and there it was. It was big, heavy, beautiful. I only had time to open it up and have a look, and it is in perfect condition. It was very well packaged. I'll inventory it when I have more time this evening. Thank you so much Piotr! It's gorgeous!

I ordered it on July 26th, so it took just a little under two months to get it. To me, it was well worth the wait.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: okieav8r]
      #5427343 - 09/18/12 12:55 PM

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I received mine this morning! I went home for lunch and there it was. It was big, heavy, beautiful. I only had time to open it up and have a look, and it is in perfect condition. It was very well packaged. I'll inventory it when I have more time this evening. Thank you so much Piotr! It's gorgeous!

I ordered it on July 26th, so it took just a little under two months to get it. To me, it was well worth the wait.




Most excellent!! I love mine too. I spent part of the evening yesterday adding hole protectors on each page. Got half way done. As I added them to each page, I would just stare at some of the pages. I am amazed at the detail.

Now I need to get my hands on a Millenium Star Atlas someday

Jason

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: okieav8r]
      #5427356 - 09/18/12 01:00 PM

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I received mine this morning!




Just got mine today too. A few minutes ago. Had to sign for it. Took about 7 weeks to USA.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: okieav8r]
      #5427369 - 09/18/12 01:07 PM

OK, I succumbed to the temptation. Ordered the evening of 9-16, requesting notice when it shipped. I got shipping confirmation by email today, 9-18 from Piotr Brych.

I went for the economy shipping, so it should arrive around Thanksgiving. Tracking appears to be with USPS international.

Clear Skies

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: okieav8r]
      #5427691 - 09/18/12 03:56 PM

Quote:

I received mine this morning! I went home for lunch and there it was. It was big, heavy, beautiful. I only had time to open it up and have a look, and it is in perfect condition. It was very well packaged. I'll inventory it when I have more time this evening. Thank you so much Piotr! It's gorgeous!

I ordered it on July 26th, so it took just a little under two months to get it. To me, it was well worth the wait.




Okie,

Who actually delivered your package, USPS or UPS?
I ordered mine on the same day you did, so
mine should be close.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: rockethead26]
      #5427738 - 09/18/12 04:19 PM

I received mine today also. I ordered it at the end of July and it came by USPS. Had to sign for it. It is a monster, but it is also awsome. Thanks Piotr. I will use it well.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: rockethead26]
      #5427799 - 09/18/12 04:47 PM

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Okie,

Who actually delivered your package, USPS or UPS?
I ordered mine on the same day you did, so
mine should be close.

Thanks




I don't know Jim. It was on my front porch when I got home for lunch. I wish they would have put it in a more inconspicuous place. They put it right in front of the door where it was visible from the street.



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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: okieav8r]
      #5428102 - 09/18/12 07:32 PM

Glad to hear that they're starting to come in. I ordered mine at the end of July, so I'm hoping to see mine soon...

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: turtle86]
      #5428149 - 09/18/12 08:01 PM

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Glad to hear that they're starting to come in. I ordered mine at the end of July, so I'm hoping to see mine soon...




I ordered mine on July 29.

How many of this atlas will be in the word ?


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Pollux556]
      #5429428 - 09/19/12 03:27 PM

Mine was delivered by the USPS but I used the faster shipping.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Undermidnight]
      #5431687 - 09/20/12 09:07 PM

I received my secondt copy by CanadaPost today so almost 2 month at economy shipping. I'm very satisfied.

Edited by Pollux556 (09/21/12 07:52 AM)


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Pollux556]
      #5431750 - 09/20/12 09:47 PM

Andre, Sorry about your brother. I wish him a full and speedy recovery.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: rockethead26]
      #5431846 - 09/20/12 10:53 PM

Andre, I am sure your brother will have a speedy recovery and I wish him all the best.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rudra]
      #5432232 - 09/21/12 07:54 AM

Thanks for my brother !

I realized that it may not be the place to talked about that so I edit my post.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Undermidnight]
      #5436896 - 09/23/12 08:11 PM

Still haven't received mine nor hear from the company; but Paypal said they got the $99. Hope it comes soon.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: faackanders2]
      #5436961 - 09/23/12 08:51 PM

Still waiting here as well. Ordered on July 26. Emailed Piotr on Friday to ask for a shipping confirmation and figure I'll hear back early this week sometime.

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      #5437119 - 09/23/12 10:36 PM

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Still waiting here as well. Ordered on July 26. Emailed Piotr on Friday to ask for a shipping confirmation and figure I'll hear back early this week sometime.




For sure you will receive it.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Pollux556]
      #5437918 - 09/24/12 11:40 AM

For the folks that are using reinforcing rings on the holes - are you doing both sides or just one. It looks like if you do both sides that 300 charts might not fit properly in the binder. Yes? No?

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: RodgerHouTex]
      #5437956 - 09/24/12 11:57 AM

Both sides, the charts fit in the binder ok.
Make sure you buy the "vinyl" rings. When I made my first purchase, I misread the meaning of "white paper hole re-inforcers" on the box; they were infact made out of paper.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Sarkikos]
      #5438280 - 09/24/12 03:15 PM

My copy arrived today in great shape almost exactly 2 months after ordering. No matter how many reviews or comments I had read, I was still taken aback by the sheer size and weight of this magnificent work.

Thanks Piotr, I will treasure this always.

Off to the store to buy 2400 reinforcing rings. That's a project!


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: rockethead26]
      #5438404 - 09/24/12 04:28 PM

Quote:

My copy arrived today in great shape almost exactly 2 months after ordering. No matter how many reviews or comments I had read, I was still taken aback by the sheer size and weight of this magnificent work.

Thanks Piotr, I will treasure this always.

Off to the store to buy 2400 reinforcing rings. That's a project!




Get your buddies together and have a reinforcing ring party. Just don't serve hot wings or barbeque.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: rockethead26]
      #5438435 - 09/24/12 04:52 PM

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Off to the store to buy 2400 reinforcing rings. That's a project!





Congrat Jim ! Welcome among the happy owners of this work.
If you have help from one person it's not so long.



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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Pollux556]
      #5442512 - 09/26/12 09:51 PM

Book? I received mine last week. I was unprepared for the HUGE size of this work. It's more like the Ten Commandments that Charlton Heston carried in the film. In fact, I am going to have a new profile picture done exactly that way, with me holding the Atlas like Tablets of the Law! Living in the desert in Israel that seems appropriate.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Ira]
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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Sarkikos]
      #5442555 - 09/26/12 10:14 PM

Hey, I got 16 pages (32 charts) stuck with reinforcing rings before dinner today. Only 266 charts to go. I could get more done faster, but I always have help from the new kitten.

EDIT: In an earlier post, I said that I needed 2400 reinforcement rings. I forgot there were two charts per page, so I only needed a little under 1200. Much better!

Edited by rockethead26 (09/27/12 06:13 PM)


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: rockethead26]
      #5442789 - 09/27/12 01:12 AM

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Hey, I got 16 pages (32 charts) stuck with reinforcing rings before dinner today. Only 266 charts to go. I could get more done faster, but I always have help from the new kitten.




I have done about 70% of them thus far. And I am only doing one side. It took about 2 hours

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Undermidnight]
      #5442987 - 09/27/12 06:37 AM

A pair of fine tipped tweezers is a big help in getting the rings centered accurately.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: okieav8r]
      #5446161 - 09/29/12 01:49 AM

I don't really use mine much; mainly I just admire it. I'm very careful about turning the pages, so I only put reinforcements on pages where there appears to be a hole becoming ragged or stressed. I do keep a packet of the reinforcements in the pocket of the atlas, though.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: faackanders2]
      #5449354 - 09/30/12 10:49 PM

Never received a confirmation, besides the one from Paypal and my bank statement saing it was paid.

People in line waiting have you at least receiveved confirmation from the seller that they acknowledege receipt and they have reserved a copy.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: faackanders2]
      #5449501 - 10/01/12 01:06 AM

I ordered around Jul 29th, never got a peep of confirmation other than from Paypal. Still waiting on it.

Rex, did your copy arrive via USPS? Did they just drop it off or you had to collect it?


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: core]
      #5449666 - 10/01/12 06:32 AM

Core, I'll jump in to answer your question. After the PayPal payment, I heard nothing until the USPS left a delivery attempt notice almost exactly two months after the order. I then had to go to the PO and collect it according to the notice. They offered no second delivery attempt which was fine with me as the PO is only a mile from my house. Piotr never answered an inquiry I made about a week before it showed up. Yours will probably show up in the next couple of days.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: core]
      #5449679 - 10/01/12 06:40 AM

Quote:

I ordered around Jul 29th, never got a peep of confirmation other than from Paypal. Still waiting on it.

Rex, did your copy arrive via USPS? Did they just drop it off or you had to collect it?




I don't know Peter. It was on my front porch when I went home from work for lunch a few weeks ago. I don't mind them dropping it off like that, but I wish they'd put it somewhere on the porch where it isn't so visible from the street.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: core]
      #5449699 - 10/01/12 06:57 AM

Peter, I ordered my GATS on July 31st, still waiting on it like you. Recently I emailed Piotr and received a reply and tracking number. Mine was shipped on August 28th and arrived in Jersey City NJ on September 28th. I'm anticipating it will arrive within a week.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: deepskytraveler]
      #5450144 - 10/01/12 01:21 PM

Checked tracking status today and it is in Cincinnati now. Only 120 miles more to complete its journey from Poland.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: deepskytraveler]
      #5450174 - 10/01/12 01:41 PM

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Checked tracking status today and it is in Cincinnati now. Only 120 miles more to complete its journey from Poland.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: okieav8r]
      #5450934 - 10/01/12 09:48 PM

Mine is waiting for me at the post office!

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: turtle86]
      #5450996 - 10/01/12 10:21 PM

You will need a hand truck to get it from the PO to your car.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: okieav8r]
      #5451086 - 10/01/12 11:13 PM

Rex, you know it.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: deepskytraveler]
      #5451118 - 10/01/12 11:35 PM

hmph. my view is that this one was no longer in print as soon as it was printed.

the old vehrenberg three volume photographic atlas would actually be more valuable to own, because it's photographic data, flawlessly printed. whereas the "great atlas" is run through a computer 5 or 50 times ... if that's your thing, why not use planetarium software? stellarium goes down to mag.15, i think.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: drollere]
      #5451499 - 10/02/12 08:48 AM

Quote:

hmph. my view is that this one was no longer in print as soon as it was printed.

the old vehrenberg three volume photographic atlas would actually be more valuable to own, because it's photographic data, flawlessly printed. whereas the "great atlas" is run through a computer 5 or 50 times ... if that's your thing, why not use planetarium software? stellarium goes down to mag.15, i think.




Yes, software has its advantages, and I find Sky Safari Pro a sheer joy to use on my iPad. But for myself, there's still something very special about a great big honking printed atlas.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: turtle86]
      #5451730 - 10/02/12 11:23 AM

Okay, I have been assembling my GAOTS and only have 52 more pages to put reinforcement rings on. Whew-hoo! Anyway, I need to know how folks have handled the folds on the pages that keep stacking up on the right. Currently with only around 100 of them in there, the folded edges stick up above the height of the exterior black zipper binder. By the time I get the last 52 pages in there, the folded edges of the charts will be way above the binder. How have others addressed this? I don't want to rip the zipper out of the binder. Any solutions?

By the way I love this atlas. It will probably be the last of its kind. I am honored to own one.

Thanks Piotr.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: RodgerHouTex]
      #5451915 - 10/02/12 12:58 PM

Quote:

Okay, I have been assembling my GAOTS and only have 52 more pages to put reinforcement rings on. Whew-hoo! Anyway, I need to know how folks have handled the folds on the pages that keep stacking up on the right. Currently with only around 100 of them in there, the folded edges stick up above the height of the exterior black zipper binder. By the time I get the last 52 pages in there, the folded edges of the charts will be way above the binder. How have others addressed this? I don't want to rip the zipper out of the binder. Any solutions?

By the way I love this atlas. It will probably be the last of its kind. I am honored to own one.

Thanks Piotr.




I had absolutely no problem to zip my GAOTS after placing all the ring.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: RodgerHouTex]
      #5451917 - 10/02/12 01:00 PM

Since I'm located in the UK, I decided to store the southern charts in its box, as there's plenty to study in my hemisphere for awhile.
Considering the size of the Atlas, it would be nice to have an additional binder.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Mike E.]
      #5451936 - 10/02/12 01:09 PM

Mike, that's a great idea. Otherwise the binder is just too stuffed for my taste.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Pollux556]
      #5452131 - 10/02/12 03:17 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Okay, I have been assembling my GAOTS and only have 52 more pages to put reinforcement rings on. Whew-hoo! Anyway, I need to know how folks have handled the folds on the pages that keep stacking up on the right. Currently with only around 100 of them in there, the folded edges stick up above the height of the exterior black zipper binder. By the time I get the last 52 pages in there, the folded edges of the charts will be way above the binder. How have others addressed this? I don't want to rip the zipper out of the binder. Any solutions?

By the way I love this atlas. It will probably be the last of its kind. I am honored to own one.

Thanks Piotr.




I had absolutely no problem to zip my GAOTS after placing all the ring.




Sounds like one of you is putting the reinforcements on both sides, and one on just one side.
Maybe just single-side the last 52 pages, or leave them un-reinforced?


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5452248 - 10/02/12 04:39 PM

Quote:

Sounds like one of you is putting the reinforcements on both sides, and one on just one side.
Maybe just single-side the last 52 pages, or leave them un-reinforced?




" All the way, both sides, no half measures in life for me; do it right, or don't do it at all. "



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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5452328 - 10/02/12 05:31 PM

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Sounds like one of you is putting the reinforcements on both sides, and one on just one side.
Maybe just single-side the last 52 pages, or leave them un-reinforced?




I reinforced all the charts on one side.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Pollux556]
      #5452444 - 10/02/12 06:45 PM

I put the re-inforcements on both the sides of the binder holes on the maps. It took me a total of >3 hours to complete it.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rudra]
      #5452494 - 10/02/12 07:12 PM

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I put the re-inforcements on both the sides of the binder holes on the maps. It took me a total of >3 hours to complete it.




Is your binder zip well ?


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: RodgerHouTex]
      #5452810 - 10/02/12 10:47 PM

Hi. I reinforced all holes, both sides, with what I believe are standard thickness reinforcing rings, as opposed to ultra thin types, but I had no problems with closing the zipper. As always, care is the key.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: faackanders2]
      #5452913 - 10/03/12 12:04 AM

They said it got shipped Sep 15th, but stll haven't heard aythng,

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: faackanders2]
      #5453108 - 10/03/12 06:37 AM

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They said it got shipped Sep 15th, but stll haven't heard aythng,




Did you use regular or express shipping? I used regular, and it took about 7 weeks to arrive. But the web site said it could take as long as three months. Hurry up and wait!


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: okieav8r]
      #5453212 - 10/03/12 08:46 AM

Quote:

Quote:

They said it got shipped Sep 15th, but stll haven't heard aythng,




Did you use regular or express shipping? I used regular, and it took about 7 weeks to arrive. But the web site said it could take as long as three months. Hurry up and wait!




You could ask Piotr for the tracking number so you'll have a better idea of when you'll receive it. Mine took almost exactly two months to arrive. Well worth the wait. Still on the fence about installing those pesky reinforcement rings!


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: faackanders2]
      #5453231 - 10/03/12 09:00 AM

I finished installing the reinforcement rings on both sides of each chart. I decided that having all the reinforced pages in the binder made things a little too tight for my liking, so I took Mike E's suggestion and removed charts #239-298 that I will rarely if ever use and stored them in the original box. Now the charts flip around the binder's rings more easily and the binder weighs a bit less.

I love the detail on these charts! I am going to get one of those narrow picture frame shelves that mount on the wall and give the atlas a special display place since it certainly won't fit on any of my book shelves.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: rockethead26]
      #5453395 - 10/03/12 11:15 AM

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I love the detail on these charts! I am going to get one of those narrow picture frame shelves that mount on the wall and give the atlas a special display place since it certainly won't fit on any of my book shelves.




I often need the PSA to find myself in this great atlas


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Pollux556]
      #5453730 - 10/03/12 03:30 PM

Mine CAME today!!! I ordered mine on August 3rd, and it came October 3rd, two months to the day. The outside box absorbed all the violence of delivery, and the inside box and all the charts were in great shape! Very impressed, and very happy!

Now I've gotta get a 55 gallon drum full of those reinforcing rings... I haven't used any of those for years, and back in the olden days when I did, I remember the ones you'd lick and stick on worked well, but the peel and stick ones tended to come loose. Hopefully, adhesive technology has improved over the past 40 years or so. What kind have you people been using?
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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: bumm]
      #5453746 - 10/03/12 03:41 PM

I reinforced my holes on just one side. I'm talking about the right side opposite the holes where the folds line up. They appear to be so high that I will have trouble closing and zipping the binder.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: RodgerHouTex]
      #5453923 - 10/03/12 05:48 PM

Well, came home to a nice surprise on the porch - USPS dropped it off! So that's just a couple of days over 2 months.

I'm seriously considering getting the maps hardcover bound in its opened state (ie, 17"x24" format)- will be calling 2 or 3 local binders for a quote this week.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: core]
      #5454016 - 10/03/12 07:10 PM

Whooo-weee! I always make circles on clear acetate to show the field of my finder scope to help with starhopping... With this atlas, my finder scope will need a circle 6.55 inches in diameter, and my low power 40mm eyepiece will need one .91 inches...
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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: core]
      #5454109 - 10/03/12 08:09 PM

Quote:

Well, came home to a nice surprise on the porch - USPS dropped it off! So that's just a couple of days over 2 months.

I'm seriously considering getting the maps hardcover bound in its opened state (ie, 17"x24" format)- will be calling 2 or 3 local binders for a quote this week.




That sounds like an excellent idea. On the whole, I'm very pleased with the atlas but so far, I'm not liking the ring binder all that much. The pages are sometimes hard to turn as they tend to catch where the rings close together. Plus, it would be great to have the pages unfolded. Please let us know what quotes you get from the binders.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: turtle86]
      #5454275 - 10/03/12 10:18 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Well, came home to a nice surprise on the porch - USPS dropped it off! So that's just a couple of days over 2 months.

I'm seriously considering getting the maps hardcover bound in its opened state (ie, 17"x24" format)- will be calling 2 or 3 local binders for a quote this week.




That sounds like an excellent idea. On the whole, I'm very pleased with the atlas but so far, I'm not liking the ring binder all that much. The pages are sometimes hard to turn as they tend to catch where the rings close together. Plus, it would be great to have the pages unfolded. Please let us know what quotes you get from the binders.




On those areas of the binder where the pages catch, take a Dremel tool with rubber sanding wheel or a medium coarse file and lightly sand/file the areas smooth where the pages catch.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: okieav8r]
      #5454727 - 10/04/12 09:08 AM

Quote:

On those areas of the binder where the pages catch, take a Dremel tool with rubber sanding wheel or a medium coarse file and lightly sand/file the areas smooth where the pages catch.





Thanks for the suggestion.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: turtle86]
      #5454787 - 10/04/12 09:46 AM

My copy of this incredible atlas showed up yesterday and it is stunning. The Autumn sky is full of galaxies I can't see with my scopes.

I think the postal service sent this from Poland via Europe, Asia and the Pacific Ocean. But it finally got here (IA) in perfect shape thanks to the fabulous packing and double boxing.

Piotr did a fabulous job with this whole thing!!!

Each page is...DEEP! I readily understand the PSA comment above.

Nice Winter project to examine every one of the 296 maps (down to magnitude 12).

Putting on the hole re-enforcers is going to be a project too.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: core]
      #5454808 - 10/04/12 10:00 AM

Quote:

I'm seriously considering getting the maps hardcover bound in its opened state (ie, 17"x24" format)- will be calling 2 or 3 local binders for a quote this week.




On my second Atlas, I am considering to store the 17"x24" (43cmx61cm) maps opened too, but not permanently bound. There are several options, I have to think about it.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Stellarfire]
      #5457822 - 10/06/12 11:49 AM

Tracking shows mine as having just entered the country (Canada).
Now, if only customs doesn't sit on it for a month...soon it will be mine!


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: operascope]
      #5458097 - 10/06/12 03:29 PM

When did you order your copy?

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: operascope]
      #5458099 - 10/06/12 03:31 PM

I was surprised. My delivery to the UK wasn't hit with a value added tax; not that I'm complaning !

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Mike E.]
      #5458160 - 10/06/12 04:30 PM

Mine arrived yesterday, October 5, after several failed delivery attempts. The postman was insistent on getting my signature in person. No flexibility whatsoever - no wonder the US Postal Service is loosing billions of dollars annually. Ok, I'm off my soapbox.

The packaging and Atlas arrived in great shape. Have not started loading it into the binder yet. It is too easy to pick up a page and just get lost in it. First impressions: it is an incredible piece of work, thoughtfully compiled and well executed.

Clear skies,

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: deepskytraveler]
      #5458166 - 10/06/12 04:38 PM

Quote:

Mine arrived yesterday, October 5, after several failed delivery attempts. The postman was insistent on getting my signature in person. No flexibility whatsoever - no wonder the US Postal Service is loosing billions of dollars annually. Ok, I'm off my soapbox.

The packaging and Atlas arrived in great shape. Have not started loading it into the binder yet. It is too easy to pick up a page and just get lost in it. First impressions: it is an incredible piece of work, thoughtfully compiled and well executed.

Clear skies,

Mark




Myself, I don't mind them wanting a signature on expensive items. Often, if they can't deliver a package, they'll leave a note so that I can go to the post office and pick it up. As it was, they just left mine leaned against the front door for anyone and everyone to see.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: okieav8r]
      #5458469 - 10/06/12 09:26 PM

Where is everyone storing this monster size edition? Doesn't come close to fitting on any book shelf.

/Ira


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Mike E.]
      #5458785 - 10/07/12 04:16 AM

I think that is because

a) It is a book so no VAT

and b) Poland is part of the EU

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Ira]
      #5458874 - 10/07/12 07:18 AM

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Where is everyone storing this monster size edition? Doesn't come close to fitting on any book shelf.

/Ira




For this atlas, a vertical position is not recommended. Mine is in flat position (best position I think) on the top off my shelf.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Pollux556]
      #5458932 - 10/07/12 08:39 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Where is everyone storing this monster size edition? Doesn't come close to fitting on any book shelf.

/Ira




For this atlas, a vertical position is not recommended. Mine is in flat position (best position I think) on the top off my shelf.




Yes. I store it in flat position too.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: DixonAgee]
      #5459140 - 10/07/12 11:30 AM

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When did you order your copy?




I ordered mine on July 31.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: operascope]
      #5460246 - 10/08/12 08:59 AM

Yep, I store mine on a shelf in my closet (only place I had room for it)

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Undermidnight]
      #5466240 - 10/12/12 01:23 AM

Ordered mine August 31
Arrived today, October 11
Well boxed and in great condition.
It'll be a few days before I can really check it
Man, it's big!!


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: The Planetman]
      #5468670 - 10/13/12 05:27 PM

I just got done sticking all my little reinforcing circles in, and it went quicker than I expected... I only did one side, and once I got the hang of it, the circles stuck tight and were easy to handle. (Avery reinforcement labels from WalMart.)

At first glace, this thing is pretty easy to use, considering it's so huge... The maps in front to find the right chart are clear and easy to read, and if you don't land on the right one, a quick look at the front maps will show where you want to go. I wondered if I'd have to number the charts on the lower right hand corner, but it's easy to flip through the lower left corner to find the right one.

I first tried looking for the Dumbbell. I found Sagitta with no trouble, but the Dumbbell was off the chart... a quick look back at the chart in front steered me to chart #97. In this case, it wouldn't help much planning a starhop, but it shows the field well. In this case, the Uranometria 2000 might win in my quick, personal evaluation.
Next, I tried the Crab. I landed on the right chart the first time, and again the field was very detailed. Using my clear FOV circles, my low power eyepiece showed 2 or 3 stars on the Uranometria 2000. However, laying the circle on the Great Atlas showed a field peppered with more stars than I bothered to count. In this case, The Great Atlas of the Sky was a clear winner.
I doubt if the Great Atlas will replace my Uranometria, especially for binocular use, but time and more familiarity will tell. I can tell now that the Great Atlas will be my first choice when I want to find a good starfield to find a dimmish galaxy. A wonderful atlas, no regrets at all in buying this thing!
Now, I gotta figure out where to PUT it...
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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: bumm]
      #5468852 - 10/13/12 08:14 PM

I also just finished reinforcing the holes. Just a few hours in total. Just did one side. If I see a need, I'll do the other.
It's an impressive book, and I don't plan to take it into the field, but I do plan to figure out my star hops with it before I go out.
As for storing it, I think I'll add a 3" shelf to my Astronomy Closet...and slide it right in. I don't think that for long term storage, vertical would be good.

Very glad to have acquired it. It's a fine atlas and nice addition to any astronomy library. My only concern is that the paper doesn't seem very heavy duty. Without a lot of care when using, it could get worn out looking really fast.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: operascope]
      #5475816 - 10/17/12 08:29 PM

Ordered Sept 16 from Calif.
Shipped Sept 18
Arrived Jersey City, NJ Oct 17

I'm not sure how long to clear customs but it's in the US of A ...

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      #5479821 - 10/20/12 01:30 AM

Ordered Aug/Sep
Shipped 9/15/12
Received today 10/19/12
It does take a long time to receive, but for only $99 it is well worth the wait!

This is an impressive and very big Star/DSO Atlas.

I plan to use double reinforces for first and last 10 pages, plus Orion, Saitarius, Scorpio, Serpens, Andromeda, Taurus, Virgo, Leo, and Cygnus.
Single reinforcers for all other pages. Hopefully this won't make it too thick for the binder.

269 large fold out pages (135 gouble sided fold outs).


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: faackanders2]
      #5479826 - 10/20/12 01:34 AM

wonder how many are still available for purchase ....

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Dave Ittner]
      #5479837 - 10/20/12 01:52 AM

Does Agena Astro still have any?

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      #5479869 - 10/20/12 02:55 AM

Website says 10+

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Dave Ittner]
      #5480118 - 10/20/12 10:10 AM

Can someone post a pic of the binder and these "holes" needing to be reinforced.
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      #5480149 - 10/20/12 10:36 AM Attachment (32 downloads)

The atlas comes double boxed and the charts are in their own box on top of that. Pages unfold with star maps front and back. I've shown a dollar bill for scale so you can see how many pages you get.

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4 Rings.

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Page

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Pages scale with dollar bill.

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Cover

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: helpwanted]
      #5480544 - 10/20/12 02:56 PM

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Can someone post a pic of the binder and these "holes" needing to be reinforced.
Thanks




It's just a loose-leaf binder. The holes don't actually *need* to be reinforced; but the paper, while of excellent quality, is not as heavy a stock as it might be, and with any usage, eventually some holes will rip out.
I just keep a pack of the reinforcements inside the atlas, and when a hole looks like it's getting a little weak, I reinforce the whole page. But then again, my copy doesn't actually get a lot of hard usage.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5480937 - 10/20/12 08:18 PM

Thank you tvoydan for the pictures!

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Pollux556]
      #5484225 - 10/22/12 07:36 PM

Quote:

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Where is everyone storing this monster size edition? Doesn't come close to fitting on any book shelf.

/Ira




For this atlas, a vertical position is not recommended. Mine is in flat position (best position I think) on the top off my shelf.




Yeah. I store it on a shelf, in the box to keep it clean and undamaged. I have a couple other atlases on top of the box (since the box itself isn't particularly attractive).


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5484321 - 10/22/12 08:56 PM

This is a really nice atlas and for $99 quite a bargain!

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      #5484552 - 10/22/12 11:54 PM Attachment (29 downloads)

Well it's here already.

Shipped Sept 18 - and delivered October 22. Just under 5 weeks. I'm convinced all shipping speeds up as we approach the holidays.

As everyone has stated, the atlas is big - but after the buildup - it seemed 'smaller' than I expected. Here are some stats. The shipping weight was 6Kg. I measured 13.8lbs on my digital bathroom scale. Package measures 21-1/8" x 16" x 2-7/8". Now to get some of those hole reinforcements ...

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: DixonAgee]
      #5484825 - 10/23/12 07:08 AM

First of all, Rick, Thanks for posting the message. Not sure how I missed this long thread (and also not knowing about this atlas). I was looking out to buy a star atlas and ended up buying Cambridge Star Atlas a month back. Of course, it is a good atlas. When I bought it I was thinking if only I had a detailed and large atlas for sky (like the Nat Geo atlas of the world) it would have been good. I think this will fulfill that desire

I ordered yesterday (22-Oct) and got a mail from Piotr that he had already shipped it(so still a few more are left). Now I am waiting for it to reach me .


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: saptharishi]
      #5485107 - 10/23/12 11:35 AM

I actually received mine within a month... just finished applying over 1,000 hole reinforcement rings last night (whew!).

Saptharishi, while the Great atlas is indeed great (especially at this price), I wouldn't recommend it for general field use. You need to find something in between your Cambridge atlas (which is basically a naked eye atlas) and this. I would recommend both Uranometria 2000 (which basically includes a 'lifetime' of objects) and Sky and Telescope's Pocket atlas (which is a great 'grab and go' atlas).


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: omahaastro]
      #5485133 - 10/23/12 11:57 AM

Hi Jeff,

Yes. I know that GAS is a reference atlas and not a field one. I will take a look at Uranometria 2000. Thanks so much for the suggestion.

For GAS, I have paid the extra $$$ to receive it by express shipment. Let me see how much time it takes from Poland to reach Bangalore .


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: saptharishi]
      #5485186 - 10/23/12 12:33 PM

Of course the common tie between Cambridge, Uranometria, and the S&T Portable atlas... is Wil Tirion... the greatest uranographer of our time.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: omahaastro]
      #5485571 - 10/23/12 04:12 PM

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Of course the common tie between Cambridge, Uranometria, and the S&T Portable atlas... is Wil Tirion... the greatest uranographer of our time.



Except that Wil Tirion didn't do the S&T Pocket Sky Atlas; Roger Sinnott did.
They did, however, use the Milky Way isophotes as outlined in the first edition of Tirion's Sky Atlas 2000.

Credit where credit is due!


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5485735 - 10/23/12 05:34 PM

True, my mistake... although I'd guess there was just a little of Tirion that rubbed off from their past collaborations.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: omahaastro]
      #5485916 - 10/23/12 07:31 PM

LOL! That's like saying Jimi Hendrix might have influenced a couple of guitar players; understatement of the century!

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5486242 - 10/23/12 11:15 PM

I, too, have to say thanks to Rick for letting us all know about the GAS being available for $99! I ordered my copy this morning.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: mayidunk]
      #5486433 - 10/24/12 03:05 AM

My pleasure, folks. I'm just glad so many are jumping on it!

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5487244 - 10/24/12 04:08 PM

Still curious how many are left ..

Piotr needs to run out of atlases so folks would then be forced to start reducing Agena's stock of 10+ (and 10+ could mean 11 or 99).


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5488250 - 10/25/12 09:29 AM

Hi Rick,

Just curious to know how is GAS compared to TriAtlas 2nd Edition (if at all you had a chance to compare the


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: faackanders2]
      #5488513 - 10/25/12 12:05 PM

I caved...bought my second copy (I bought a copy when they first came out)..at this price I am taking a suggestion from above and looking into having it bound in the open position.

Edited by WOBentley (10/25/12 12:17 PM)


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: WOBentley]
      #5488542 - 10/25/12 12:19 PM

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I caved...bought my second copy (I bought a copy when they first came out)..at this price I am taking a suggestion from above and looking into having it bound in the open position.



I am intrigued by the thought of having it bound. What kind of a binding were you considering?


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: saptharishi]
      #5488704 - 10/25/12 02:08 PM

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Hi Rick,

Just curious to know how is GAS compared to TriAtlas 2nd Edition (if at all you had a chance to compare the




No, I haven't compared them. I don't use computer-based atlases, and with my dial-up line, I can't download it for printing. I'd be interested in knowing too, though. Someone here must have compared them.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5488732 - 10/25/12 02:26 PM

I use the TriAtlas series extensively as I have all 3 series loaded up on my IPAD (the individual charts) for use while in the field. I have not had the time to really dig into GAOTS and compare them but will do so and create a new post so others can contribute.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Dave Ittner]
      #5491432 - 10/27/12 10:13 AM

Halfway done putting 1200 hole reinforcers in. Thickest part is still the fold by the zipper, and still only halfway up the rings.

Checking out each page and it is a beauty. Like the large print with common names. Don't like the small print for M object titles. I have difficulty reading small print at night with red light (and large pupils).


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Dave Ittner]
      #5491538 - 10/27/12 11:15 AM

Their web site states "there are only a few dozens left and the edition will not be reissued". I ordered via PayPal ($99) on Oct 25 and received a note from Mr. Brych on Oct 26 with shipping info!
This nostalgic treasure will be added to my Observatory library collection and referenced from the warm room table. Call me old-fashioned, but there is certainly something to be said for the look and feel of hard copy print for future generations of amateurs! (Yes, I do have and use technology also!)


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      #5491825 - 10/27/12 03:13 PM

I ordered on 22nd Oct and it has already reached India on 25th and currently awaiting the customs clearance. Hope it is done ASAP and the book is delivered.

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      #5492609 - 10/28/12 03:02 AM

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This nostalgic treasure will be added to my Observatory library collection and referenced from the warm room table. Call me old-fashioned, but there is certainly something to be said for the look and feel of hard copy print for future generations of amateurs!




Ah! Donovan, me lad, you're my kind of guy!
And a 30" Obsession - you've certainly got the firepower to make the most of this beauty.


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      #5492611 - 10/28/12 03:04 AM

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I ordered on 22nd Oct and it has already reached India on 25th and currently awaiting the customs clearance. Hope it is done ASAP and the book is delivered.




Sap,

Just sit back and enjoy the anticipation! It's well worth the wait.


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      #5494691 - 10/29/12 01:53 PM

Quote:

Quote:

This nostalgic treasure will be added to my Observatory library collection and referenced from the warm room table. Call me old-fashioned, but there is certainly something to be said for the look and feel of hard copy print for future generations of amateurs!




Ah! Donovan, me lad, you're my kind of guy!
And a 30" Obsession - you've certainly got the firepower to make the most of this beauty.




And then some! Sky Tools 3 Pro is in the mail to fill in the gaps.


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      #5495331 - 10/29/12 09:21 PM

OK - Couldn't resist and ordered at the snail mail rate. I 'NEED' this like another hole in the head but it appeals to the bookworm in me. there is something about books and paper charts I like over the computerized stuff.

But I also Like the computerized stuff for what it's best at.

Donovan, hope you like ST3pro - I love it ! Some very nifty / handy '3 view' options, chart/print options.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: CounterWeight]
      #5495775 - 10/30/12 05:32 AM

Finally I received mine yesterday It took about a week to reach me from Poland. The reason it took a week is due to customs clearance. Thankfully customs didn't slap any tax or duty on it. It is an absolute wealth of information for reference. I am very happy with my investment

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      #5495967 - 10/30/12 10:11 AM

Glad to hear it!

I made it under the wire Got my shipping info today... thanks to all for keeping the thread alive -


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      #5497450 - 10/31/12 09:03 AM

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OK - Couldn't resist and ordered at the snail mail rate. I 'NEED' this like another hole in the head but it appeals to the bookworm in me. there is something about books and paper charts I like over the computerized stuff.





100% agree!! When I was young, I would sit with a star atlas and just look at it for hours.

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Their web site states "there are only a few dozens left and the edition will not be reissued". I ordered via PayPal ($99) on Oct 25 and received a note from Mr. Brych on Oct 26 with shipping info!
This nostalgic treasure will be added to my Observatory library collection and referenced from the warm room table. Call me old-fashioned, but there is certainly something to be said for the look and feel of hard copy print for future generations of amateurs! (Yes, I do have and use technology also!)



I ordered mine on 10/23 ($99 snail-mail), and received an email from Piotr yesterday telling me that he had shipped it on 10/29! I'm a happy guy!


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: CounterWeight]
      #5498527 - 10/31/12 09:52 PM

Quote:

OK - Couldn't resist and ordered at the snail mail rate. I 'NEED' this like another hole in the head but it appeals to the bookworm in me. there is something about books and paper charts I like over the computerized stuff.

But I also Like the computerized stuff for what it's best at.

Donovan, hope you like ST3pro - I love it ! Some very nifty / handy '3 view' options, chart/print options.



I really like what I've read about ST3Pro so far; can't wait to give it a whirl and see if expectations are met!


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: DGB]
      #5519490 - 11/14/12 12:43 PM

Just curious if anyone has an image of this Atlas and one of the other larger atlases for a size comparison? Not so much for detail in charts, more just for 'how does it compare sizewise'.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: CounterWeight]
      #5530319 - 11/20/12 02:32 PM

There are photos in a different CN thread, in case you haven't found your answer by now. http://tinyurl.com/cjhhpc7

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      #5531204 - 11/20/12 10:37 PM

Thanks Bruce!

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: mayidunk]
      #5531471 - 11/21/12 02:43 AM

Quote:

Quote:

I caved...bought my second copy (I bought a copy when they first came out)..at this price I am taking a suggestion from above and looking into having it bound in the open position.



I am intrigued by the thought of having it bound. What kind of a binding were you considering?



I was going to take the actual Atlas when it arrives, to a local bookbinder and see what they recommend. I am thinking along the traditional lines of a "hardback" book, since I have the other copy. I don't know exactly how this will be done as, even though I have had bookbinding work done before, I am not an expert by any means. I do want it in the full page format (not folded) other than that I am open to their thinking.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: CounterWeight]
      #5536562 - 11/24/12 01:35 AM

Here is my modest collection of astronomy books.

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      #5537711 - 11/24/12 07:12 PM

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Just curious if anyone has an image of this Atlas and one of the other larger atlases for a size comparison? Not so much for detail in charts, more just for 'how does it compare sizewise'.




There are images and links in this chain. This is very large (very detailed for print down to mag 12) and very heavy. It is looselief bound with a zipper. Have not yet used it in the field, but if I do it most likely will be with individual sheets in the platic selected before observing.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Dave Ittner]
      #5551434 - 12/03/12 02:50 AM

Coming late to this thread I was worried I had missed my opportunity. Not So. I just ordered one from Agena Astro for $139. It was cheaper than the express option from Poland, and I dont think I could wait two months just to save another $40. This book has been on my wishlist for a few years now. I had been very close to pulling the trigger at $260 numerous times. And at this price I am ecstatic! woohoo

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Fimpster]
      #5552078 - 12/03/12 01:45 PM

I guarantee that you'll be very happy with it. Definitely a bargain at $139.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Fimpster]
      #5552765 - 12/03/12 08:28 PM

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Coming late to this thread I was worried I had missed my opportunity. Not So. I just ordered one from Agena Astro for $139. It was cheaper than the express option from Poland, and I dont think I could wait two months just to save another $40. This book has been on my wishlist for a few years now. I had been very close to pulling the trigger at $260 numerous times. And at this price I am ecstatic! woohoo




It is easy to wait. Just pretend it is not in print yet.

Plus you are rewarded $40 for waiting.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: DGB]
      #5562834 - 12/09/12 05:31 PM

The mailman delivered my 'Great Atlas' yesterday. Six weeks from Poland via International snail mail, through customs, across the pond and at my door for $99, not bad AT ALL!

As a tribute to honor Sir Patrick Moore (He passed away today at the age of 89), I will break-in this Atlas by locating all 109 of the Caldwell Objects first.

Thanks Piotr for your service and commitment to the amateur astronomy community! (And thanks for the personalized autograph!).

Donovan,


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: DGB]
      #5563447 - 12/10/12 01:16 AM

Oh, rats. I never thought to ask him to sign my copy.

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      #5563749 - 12/10/12 08:50 AM

Seeing as I ordered mine on 10/23, it should should be here any time, now!



Edit: I arrived about a half hour ago... it is huge! I started putting it together, and decided that the hole reinforcements are not only a good idea, they're pretty much a necessity!

I love the "leather" portfolio that holds it all together! I have to say that once it's all put together it really has to be stored on its side, flat. Otherwise, I'm thinking that the weight of the pages will stress the holes even if they're reinforced. Just an observation.

Anyway, it's off to Staple's for the really thin hole reinforcements.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: mayidunk]
      #5565830 - 12/11/12 12:10 PM

WOW! this thing is huge!... really nice charting as well - very impressive! Well done!

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: mayidunk]
      #5568325 - 12/12/12 09:34 PM

Well, two hours, and 564 carefully applied hole reinforcement rings later, and the Atlas is assembled and is ready for use.

FYI, I used the white, self-adhesive hole reinforcements being sold by Target under their "up&up" house brand. They come 544 in a pack for less than $3.00. They appear to be plastic, are very thin, and are very easy to work with. The pages all fit in the binder rings with room to spare!

I used a small flat-bladed screwdriver (a "7-level screwdriver" for all you ex-AF electronic tech. people) to position the rings over the punched holes, so that made the job of applying them go even faster. I believe it took just over 2 hours to apply one ring to each hole on each page. Yeah, it was a bit of a PITA, but it was also kind of relaxing, and now that it's done I'm glad I did it.

What a wonderful Atlas that Piotr has produced! I'm looking at it, going through its pages, looking at the binder... I can't believe that he is willing to sell them for only $99 shipped, as it actually appears he may well be taking a loss by doing so, given the sorry state of the world economy! What an amazing value!

In any event, it's an amazing work, and I consider myself fortunate to have a copy of it. Thank you, Piotr!


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: mayidunk]
      #5571627 - 12/14/12 09:48 PM

The Great Atlas just received from Piotr. This was an immense undertaking , I mean just carrying to the car from the Post Office. Seriously, this is a serious body of work presented on a very large scale, presenting distant suns down to Mag 12, shipped from Poland, and all for the price of a new plossl. Well done Piotr .Verdict; recommend 'Buy'.

Total transit time- Warsaw to Toronto=5weeks.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Full Sun]
      #5571843 - 12/15/12 12:31 AM

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The Great Atlas just received from Piotr. This was an immense undertaking , I mean just carrying to the car from the Post Office. Seriously, this is a serious body of work presented on a very large scale, presenting distant suns down to Mag 12, shipped from Poland, and all for the price of a new plossl. Well done Piotr .




You're right, it is serious. And anyone considering the one-volume U2000 ought to consider this as well; far more detailed, still one volume, and close to the same price. I think it'll be a long, long time before anything trumps this one.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5573050 - 12/15/12 07:26 PM

I just placed an order, I was told he had 10 copies left.
Now there is 9.
Was told it will take 4-6 weeks .


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      #5573064 - 12/15/12 07:41 PM

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Quote:

The Great Atlas just received from Piotr. This was an immense undertaking , I mean just carrying to the car from the Post Office. Seriously, this is a serious body of work presented on a very large scale, presenting distant suns down to Mag 12, shipped from Poland, and all for the price of a new plossl. Well done Piotr .




You're right, it is serious. And anyone considering the one-volume U2000 ought to consider this as well; far more detailed, still one volume, and close to the same price. I think it'll be a long, long time before anything trumps this one.




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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: faackanders2]
      #5580298 - 12/20/12 09:38 AM

I received mine a couple of weeks ago from Agena, just a few days after I ordered it. WOW, I knew it would be huge and heavy , but I was still impressed. I'm trying to decide whether I should go ahead and put the reinforcer rings on. I dont plan to use pages in the field, this will just be an indoor desk reference.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Fimpster]
      #5581112 - 12/20/12 05:25 PM

Do you apply the reinforcing rings on both sides ?
If so does it all fit back into the binder


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: bigdob24]
      #5581275 - 12/20/12 07:05 PM

I did put rings on both sides and it makes for a very tight fit in the binder. I decided to remove all the charts from the southern sky thst I cannot use and store the in the original box. Now pages turn freely.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: bigdob24]
      #5583077 - 12/21/12 07:23 PM

I used the white, self-adhesive hole reinforcements being sold by Target under their "up&up" house brand. They come 544 in a pack for less than $3.00. They appear to be plastic, are very thin, and are very easy to work with.

I applied them to one side only, and the pages all fit in the binder rings with room to spare! However, I think if I had applied them to both sides of the page, it may have been a bit of a tight fit. But it's hard to say, as those rings really are pretty thin.

If you have a micrometer, or dial calipers, you should be able to measure the thickness of the rings plus the pages, and come up with a ballpark idea of how they'd fit based on how thick each page with the rings added would be, multiplied by the number of pages, compared to just the thickness of the pages alone, multiplied by the same number of pages.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: mayidunk]
      #5583089 - 12/21/12 07:30 PM

I'd just do one side. I mean, how rough do you really want to treat this thing?!

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5583567 - 12/22/12 03:42 AM

We all know Rick Woods has little respect for astro books.

When I ordered the reinforcers for my GAOTS I didn't even know there were different thicknesses to be had, so whether they are thick or thin ones I couldn't say. (They were transparent and didn't seem particularly thick.)

What I can say is that they were applied to both sides (because I have more respect for my books than Rick does for his...) and it certainly bulked up that edge, but everything still fits between the covers with room to spare.

You will probably be fine reinforcing just one side, and it will save you a lot of time and a small amount of depth.


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      #5583900 - 12/22/12 11:24 AM

Agh! My secret is out!

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I received mine a couple of weeks ago from Agena, just a few days after I ordered it. WOW, I knew it would be huge and heavy , but I was still impressed. I'm trying to decide whether I should go ahead and put the reinforcer rings on. I dont plan to use pages in the field, this will just be an indoor desk reference.




Agena had this? Did Manish have another one? I emailed him to find out.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Daniel Mounsey]
      #5585355 - 12/23/12 10:42 AM

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Quote:

I received mine a couple of weeks ago from Agena, just a few days after I ordered it. WOW, I knew it would be huge and heavy , but I was still impressed. I'm trying to decide whether I should go ahead and put the reinforcer rings on. I dont plan to use pages in the field, this will just be an indoor desk reference.




Agena had this? Did Manish have another one? I emailed him to find out.




As I understand it, Agena was the sole U.S. seller.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: okieav8r]
      #5593002 - 12/28/12 05:34 PM

The stocks of The Great Atlas of the Sky became exhausted on December 23rd. Still, all orders paid for after that date will be finalized since I am now collecting the unsold copies of the atlas from our distributors in Poland. I hope to receive approximately 50 copies of the atlas in this way. The collected copies will be shipped out to clients starting from around January 10th. Until this date no express orders will be processed.

Thus, further orders can be placed at will – when the number of new orders exceeds 50, I will post a separate message on cludynights forum, and if there is not enough copies, the money will be reimbursed immediately. Once all copies collected from distributors’ warehouses are sold, the sales of the greatest atlas of the sky will be definitively closed.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Piotr Brych]
      #5593079 - 12/28/12 06:24 PM

You came, you saw, you conquered.
Great job, Piotr!


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5593106 - 12/28/12 06:39 PM

Agree it's such an impressive work, instant center of attention here the last few nights!

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5593444 - 12/28/12 10:18 PM

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You came, you saw, you conquered.
Great job, Piotr!




Yes, great job Piotr!


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: turtle86]
      #5593976 - 12/29/12 09:15 AM

I'll also add my thanks to Piotr for a job well done on the atlas. It's now a treasured part of my astronomy library, and I shall not be parting with it.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Piotr Brych]
      #5594334 - 12/29/12 12:42 PM

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The stocks of The Great Atlas of the Sky became exhausted on December 23rd. Still, all orders paid for after that date will be finalized since I am now collecting the unsold copies of the atlas from our distributors in Poland. I hope to receive approximately 50 copies of the atlas in this way. The collected copies will be shipped out to clients starting from around January 10th. Until this date no express orders will be processed.

Thus, further orders can be placed at will – when the number of new orders exceeds 50, I will post a separate message on cludynights forum, and if there is not enough copies, the money will be reimbursed immediately. Once all copies collected from distributors’ warehouses are sold, the sales of the greatest atlas of the sky will be definitively closed.




Thanks Piotr for your great Atlas. I have two copy, the second was for my brother but unfortunately his health declined so I keep the second copy for future use.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Pollux556]
      #5599907 - 01/01/13 04:16 PM

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... I keep the second copy for future use.




One for each arm to work out and balance yourself.

P.S. Hope your brother gets better, and it really is a GREAT altas!


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: turtle86]
      #5615138 - 01/10/13 09:49 AM

Bumping the thread to write that I just received the atlas a couple days back. I need to look through it in much more detail, but my first couple impressions are:

1) It's an impressive piece of work. There are some cartography decisions that I don't agree with, but the level of detail is great.

2) This is not a comment on the atlas, but I can't think of any situation where it will be useful to me, either at home or in the field. While my eyes strained to read the designations, I tried to think of any advantage of this paper atlas over SkySafari and Megastar on my iPad and laptop. I couldn't come up with any, unless you point out the obvious that it doesn't need a power supply or a computer. I actually can think of advantages of small-scale atlases like the Pocket Sky Atlas for giving a quick overview, but this thing is so unwieldy that I don't see it being opened in the house, the backyard observatory, or the dark site.


Again, I am not dismissing the work, and am not disappointed at purchasing it as such a bargain price. Other than the enjoyment of leafing through the charts, I just can't fathom a productive use for it. Has anybody used this atlas in the field, or at home for preparing to observe?

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Tom Polakis]
      #5615381 - 01/10/13 12:00 PM

Nope. Not yet, at least. I bought it for what it is, not necessarily for how useful it would be. I love fine star atlases, and when one appears that I can afford, I try to support the art by getting one. They'll all be gone forever soon enough. It's utility of lack thereof is secondary. The small print is nothing - that's what magnifying glasses or WalMart cheaters were made for!

But, one advantage might be that it has essentially the same coverage as the proposed SkyGX, which would have taken up several large hardbound volumes.
Another is that the GA also uses very large charts to show substantial portions of the sky at a large scale on a single chart. You'd need a pretty big monitor to do anything similar with a computer. And it's all bound securely in a compact (!) format, with easily detachable charts.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5615481 - 01/10/13 12:57 PM

I love this atlas but really don't see using it in the field myself. The pages are a bit unwieldly and some of the print isn't easy to read. I also wish it had dark nebulae plotted. For my own purposes, I find Ski Safari on my iPad, with Uranometria and Pocket Sky Atlas as backup, much more practical for field use. But I do give Piotr a lot of credit for making field use possible, as the chart pages are detachable (and can be individually placed in the handy laminated window) and all fit in a durable carrying case.

On the other hand, the sheer unwieldliness of the atlas is also what makes it great for cloudy night browsing. Having such large charts helps me stay oriented and keep things in context. Mostly, though, I just really enjoy leafing through the charts for pleasure, much the same way I enjoy my large art books. And this atlas truly is a work of art in my humble opinion.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: turtle86]
      #5616023 - 01/10/13 06:31 PM

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I also wish it had dark nebulae plotted.




That's the only actual problem, IMO. Everything else is just degrees of convenience. You're right - it's a great coffee table atlas!


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5617473 - 01/11/13 03:36 PM

Thank you Piotr, I got my atlas after seeing it mentioned here in this thread, and I love it. It is definitely a "crown jewel" in my slowly growing collection. I still need to put the reinforcement rings on mine. With passionate star chart lovers like those of us gathered here, the art of the analog atlas will never die! Cheers, Leo

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: smallscopefanLeo]
      #5618857 - 01/12/13 11:26 AM

I often use my GAS atlas, in house of course, and find searching for patterns, asterisms and much more to be both challenging and interesting. I use the Sky Pocket Atlas both in house and in the field.

The Great Sky Atlas sits in a dedicated space and find myself exploring almost daily.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: opticsguy]
      #5620646 - 01/13/13 12:05 PM

I'm coming up on 6 weeks , and live in the central US .
How long did it take your deliveries?
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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: bigdob24]
      #5620780 - 01/13/13 01:15 PM

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I'm coming up on 6 weeks , and live in the central US .
How long did it take your deliveries?
Dan




About that, almost exactly.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: rockethead26]
      #5638577 - 01/23/13 10:16 AM

7 weeks and counting
Tracking says the country of origin is preparing package for shipping.
Its said that since Dec17th so I would guess its in route somewhere between Poland and the US.
It would be great to look thru this on one of these cold days .
More when it arrives


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: bigdob24]
      #5655018 - 01/31/13 08:30 PM

Got my copy of the atlas today.
Not bad for ordering just before X Mas .
It arrived in great shape, very well packed , no damage from the long journey.
Working on putting it together, installing reenforcing rings . Will have it done and look through it by tomorrow.
It will be a great addition to the library.


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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Dave Ittner]
      #5713879 - 03/05/13 05:26 AM

4 Mar 2013 - The Great Atlas of the Sky is out of print in Poland.

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Re: "Great Atlas of the Sky" going out of print new [Re: Piotr Brych]
      #5713962 - 03/05/13 08:12 AM

Piotr, I'm really glad that I was to get a copy from you while it was still in print. You did a tremendous job with it and it is a joy to use!

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