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cosurgi
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dropped my baader mark V bino on concrete :(
      #5399991 - 09/02/12 06:00 PM

It happened tonight when we were preparing to moon observing session. I badly attached that connector ring. I always have a bad feeling about attaching this ring, and I normally double and triple check it. So I did today. I even told my brother that I always feel uneasy about this connector ring. Few minutes later with eyepieces attached it fell down on the concrete.

Very frightened I attached it again, and we had a great moon observing session. I was so afraid that it might get damaged. But now I really don't know if something happened to it, or if I should contact Baader and ask if they could check it for me.

At first I saw a collimation problem, one eye couldn't match the view with another eye, but soon the problem disappeared, and none of my fellow observers noticed this. Even at 200x magnification (refractor ES 127mm;952mm with ES 4.7mm eyepieces) the view was sharp, good and collimated.

I wish there was another way to connect this binoviwer, this connector ring is so... difficult to use.

Should I contact Baader?
Do you think that if there are any problems I would notice them instantly during the moon observing session?
What should I do?


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Refractor6
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Re: dropped my baader mark V bino on concrete :( new [Re: cosurgi]
      #5400093 - 09/02/12 07:40 PM

I would think that if you're not seeing a constant double image or having eye strain to make a merge you may have got off easy without knocking out something inside fortunately. Yes that connection is the one thing on my older version {but same design} that gets the double check everytime... still I feel your pain...no fun

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mark8888
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Re: dropped my baader mark V bino on concrete :( new [Re: Refractor6]
      #5400176 - 09/02/12 08:50 PM

As far as I know, Baader is verrrrry slow in checking and fixing things. It could take several months to get the BV back if you send it to them. So if it seems to be working fine, I would probably take no action.

Yeah the connector is scary. I've had the Mark V spin around a couple of times when it wasn't connected perfectly, and it definitely freaked me out!!


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Kutno
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Re: dropped my baader mark V bino on concrete :( new [Re: cosurgi]
      #5400254 - 09/02/12 09:44 PM

Przykro mi slyszec. Since the problem appeared only momentarily, I would not worry about it, at this time.

Duzo szczescia!


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crazyqban
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Re: dropped my baader mark V bino on concrete :( new [Re: Kutno]
      #5400325 - 09/02/12 10:50 PM

I dropped my Mark Vs once and contacted Astro Physics about it. I was told that the prisms are cemented in place and that a drop would not cause any collimation issues. There is no way to adjust the collimation on the Mark Vs. As far as sending them to Baader, I once had to send mine for a thorough cleaning (water got deep inside the prism structure) and it took about 3 months to get them back. Also, it was a pricey cleaning since I had to pay for shipping to and from Germany. Total price came out to about $350. I now keep them in a waterproof case.

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crazyqban
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Re: dropped my baader mark V bino on concrete :( new [Re: crazyqban]
      #5400328 - 09/02/12 10:52 PM

As far as I am concerened, if the the view is OK, they should be fine.

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Stellarfire
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Re: dropped my baader mark V bino on concrete :( new [Re: cosurgi]
      #5400498 - 09/03/12 01:58 AM

I am also using the Baader Mark V. The dropping risk always lets me think about a safety lanyard, keeping the Mark V from falling down. Or to put a thick soft cushioning pad on the floor, just in case...

Baader should offer modified, more reliable mounting adapters for their expensive and heavy Mark V binoviewer.

Stephan


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cosurgi
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Re: dropped my baader mark V bino on concrete :( new [Re: Stellarfire]
      #5400546 - 09/03/12 03:37 AM

Thank you very much for encouragement. So I think that I will take no action for now. Of course except quadruple and quintuple checking the connector from now on.

Yesterday we were looking at moon only. Next test will be on planets on another night. I used this bino a lot before this happened, so I should notice if there is any difference.

I hope that I got lucky with this one...


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Re: dropped my baader mark V bino on concrete :( new [Re: cosurgi]
      #5400597 - 09/03/12 05:11 AM

Because og affraid dropping, I do that...







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denis0007dl
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Re: dropped my baader mark V bino on concrete :( new [Re: denis0007dl]
      #5400598 - 09/03/12 05:14 AM

...so now my MkV is fixed with adapter!

And with that I gave 2mm more CLEAR APERTURE of MkV, originaly it has on back side 28mm, now is fully 30mm ;-)


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Re: dropped my baader mark V bino on concrete :( new [Re: denis0007dl]
      #5400861 - 09/03/12 10:52 AM

I don't know why more people don't affix a lanyard or saftey line to heavy eyepieces, binos and cameras. Seems to me a small quick connector or snap fitting could make interchanges more efficient too. Mike

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rfr66
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Re: dropped my baader mark V bino on concrete :( new [Re: mikey cee]
      #5401014 - 09/03/12 12:36 PM

I dropped my MKV on concrete also and I started seeing a second image upside down. I sent it back to Astro Physics and they said collimation was out. It was sent back to Baader for repair but took over three months. I couldn't wait that long so I bought a second MKV to use while I was waiting. A cushion on the ground would be a good idea.

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Re: dropped my baader mark V bino on concrete :( new [Re: rfr66]
      #5401046 - 09/03/12 12:59 PM

I'm thinking at this point being a recent convert and owner of the older unit that one of those small outdoor area rugs under the scope would be at least be a good start.

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Re: dropped my baader mark V bino on concrete :( new [Re: cosurgi]
      #5401450 - 09/03/12 04:46 PM

Sorry to hear about that. I dropped mine, damaged it, and it took over eight months for turnaround. Luckily you are closer to Germany! Good luck.

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Re: dropped my baader mark V bino on concrete :( new [Re: johnnyha]
      #5401892 - 09/03/12 09:30 PM

Hmmm, seems dropping Mk V's is too common. On that basis, I think I'll give them a miss

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BWAZ
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Re: dropped my baader mark V bino on concrete :( new [Re: NickG]
      #5402265 - 09/04/12 02:04 AM

I dropped mine once and it seems the binoviewer survived but I still keep thinking sending the unit back to Baader for inspection, kinda paranoid

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johnnyha
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Re: dropped my baader mark V bino on concrete :( new [Re: BWAZ]
      #5403613 - 09/04/12 06:50 PM

Mine was initially inspected by Roland himself at Astro-Physics before they sent it off to Germany, I think he can deal with basic collimation issues. Mine was knocked outta whack though, and then I think it got shuffled around once it reached Baader. Over eight months is a looong wait for service.

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Doug D.
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Re: dropped my baader mark V bino on concrete :( new [Re: johnnyha]
      #5403991 - 09/04/12 10:05 PM

I had a problem with mine a while back and I sent them to A-P for a look. Roland checked them out quickly and the problem had to do with the prism diagonal not the collimation of the binoc prisms. It was replaced under warranty.

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DRodrigues
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Re: dropped my baader mark V bino on concrete :( new [Re: denis0007dl]
      #5405262 - 09/05/12 05:06 PM

denis0007dl,
How did you or where that was done. Besides also already dropped mine twice (only once due to the quick release system... At that time nothing happened and but after the second fall I had to use glue tape to hold my inter pupil distance - still is collimated... :-) ), I would prefer a simple T female on the binoviewer since would save 1 cm of focal length. I contacted Baader to ask if it was possible to remove the system and make a T tread female but they told it would be too expensive since had to produce new tools to collimate the binoviewer...


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Rick Woods
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Re: dropped my baader mark V bino on concrete :( [Re: DRodrigues]
      #5405752 - 09/05/12 11:10 PM

I got a cold lump in my stomach just reading the title of this thread!

Glad it's still OK. You got lucky; you should find some way to make it more secure (the lanyard idea sounded good).


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