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Tavi F.
Vendor (refractor optics)
Reged: 06/27/08
Loc: Europe
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Biconvex lenses with high focal ratio, for sale
#5477344 - 10/18/12 04:29 PM
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Main purpose: singlet lens objective for building a 17th century style non-achromatic refractor. Glass used: BK7 and float soda-lime ("plate glass").
All the lenses are handmade, grinded and polished individual, and those on BK7 substratum comes with a Ronchi test certificate. Diffraction limited.
A. Optical glass BK7 lenses Type 1. Specifications: - focal length (nominal) in G-channel: F = 2400mm (+10/-5mm); - total diameter: Dt = ~49.5mm; - center thickness: tc = ~8mm; - high precision optical diameter: Duseful = 40mm; - relative opening ("focal ratio"): N = F/Du = 60; - the chromatic aberration coefficient: x = N/Du = 1.5 General: http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7834/lentilad40mmbk7prezgene.jpg Ronchi tests: http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/1826/ronchitestlentile13567c.jpg Airy disc, crop100%, unprocessed: http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/5671/steaartificiala58mcr100.jpg From "A to Z": http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7650/metamorfozaprismelorfor.jpg
PRICE for one lens = 25 euro. Two lenses are still available (no.1&3).
For a more attractive offer, I add a second smaller BK7 lens (type 2) in the package: Type 2. Specifications: - focal length in G-channel: F = 1250mm; - total diameter: Dt = ~35mm; - center thickness: tc = ~6.5mm; - high precision optical diameter: Duseful = 28mm; - relative opening ("focal ratio"): N = F/Duseful = 44.64; - the chromatic aberration coefficient: x = N/Duseful = 1.59 General: http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/1992/lentila1testrlunetajpg.jpg Airy disc, crop100%, unprocessed: http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/1469/steaartificiala241md28m.jpg (notice the Airy disc; USlim means the resolving power)
PRICE [lens D28mm + lens D40mm] = 30 euro.
As a divagation, here is a Ronchi test (made two years ago, using the same screen) for a meniscus lens, F=1320mm. At that moment, the commercial lens was stopped at 32mm. http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/8504/lenochelarid32mmf1320mm.jpg Just below are some more recent comparative pictures, entrance pupil: 28mm for both lenses (which were mounted on the same refractor). Meniscus (commercial): http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/7715/imagine003redjpg.jpg Biconvex (my lens): http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6779/imagine010cr100l2455pxr.jpg The images speak for themselves!
B. Soda-lime glass, float "plate glass" The glass of these lenses is ordinary plate glass, but the initial tests (by checking the plate in front of a concave mirror) had shown me a good optical homogeneity of the material. Type 1'. Specifications: - focal length (nominal) in G-channel: F = 5400mm (+100/+20mm); - total diameter: Dt = ~69.5mm; - center thickness: tc = ~7.5mm; - high precision optical diameter: Duseful = 60mm; - relative opening ("focal ratio"): N = F/Du = 90; - the chromatic aberration coefficient: x = N/Du = 1.5 General: http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/4930/lentilad60mmf5400mmjpg.jpg The 18 feet long refractor (in provisional form): http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/243/lunetasimpletd60mmjpg.jpg Moon, afocal set-up: http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/9518/luna4imglunetad60mmjpg.jpg
PRICE for one lens = 23 euro. Four lenses are available.
Type 2' (practical, these lenses gives the same image quality as the BK7 version). Specifications: - focal length (nominal) in G-channel: F = 2400mm (+10/-5mm); - total diameter: Dt = ~49.3mm; - center thickness: tc = ~7mm; - high precision optical diameter: Duseful = 40mm; - relative opening ("focal ratio"): N = F/Du = 60; - the chromatic aberration coefficient: x = N/Du = 1.5 General: http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2961/img5348cr.jpg Ronchi tests using a distant terrestrial light source, wire thickness=0.11mm, inside-focus: http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/5992/testerlentiled40f2400mm.jpg (This is just the final validation test, for the viewers. I also did another indoor optical test, during polishing, to establish the necessary strokes adjustments for both D40 and D60mm lenses.) A few images which illustrates the manufacturing stages: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2444/obtinereadiscurilorjpg.jpg http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1158/etapedeslefuirejpg.jpg http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/8164/sdvurijpg.jpg http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/5558/transparentalafinalulsl.jpg http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/3710/polisareajpg.jpg http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3364/img4645mod3.jpg PRICE for one lens = 18.5 euro. Six lenses are available.
Special offers: PRICE [lens D40mm + lens D60mm] = 35 euro. PRICE for two lenses D40mm = 32 euro.
Note: to all effective prices, I will add the shipping cost and the PayPal fee. For more information, please contact me at e-mail: tavi.florian@gmail.com
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Ira
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Re: Biconvex lenses with high focal ratio, for sale
[Re: Tavi F.]
#5477495 - 10/18/12 06:07 PM
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Stupid question. Are there any plans that might show how to build a 17th century-style telescope from these lenses? I'd love to try.
/Ira
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Tavi F.
Vendor (refractor optics)
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Loc: Europe
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Re: Biconvex lenses with high focal ratio, for sale
[Re: Ira]
#5478223 - 10/19/12 04:07 AM
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Here, on CN, is at least another subject on making the 17th century style refractors:
http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/2621362/page/23/view/collapsed/sb/5/o/all/fpart/1
(I have posted some thoughts there)
At the following link, you can see a good article about medium sized non-achromatic refractors:
http://www.jdso.org/volume6/number4/binder47.pdf
A brief history of refracting telescope (including images):
http://www.aip.org/history/cosmology/tools/tools-first-telescopes.htm
- Hevelius, 60 feet telescope - http://cnx.org/content/m11932/latest/hevelius_telescope_60ft.gif
- Huygens's tubeless telescope - http://cnx.org/content/m11932/latest/aerial_telescope.gif
Beyond the optical components, for a (precise) mechanical replica the main materials should be wood, ropes and paper (cardboard).
- In case of relative short focal lengths (up to 2 or 2.5 meters), we may consider the Galileo's solid primary tube + the focusing eyepiece tube.
http://galileotelescope.org/
- For longer focus objectives, we may chose:
1. the telescopic solution (2..4 segments);
http://cnx.org/content/m11932/latest/hevelius_telescope.gif
2. long and solid wooden tube, like Alan Binder's replica;
3. or simply tubeless design, Huygens style.
The simplest ocular is a Kepler eyepiece (a single plan-convex lens), but the better one is a Ramsden or Huygens evolution.
Hopefully, these links are useful to get some ideas.
L.E.: Pics with my D28mm and D40mm refractors:
- D28mm: http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8018/lunetasimpletd28mmf1250.jpg
- D40mm (in action): http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/7224/lunetesimpletd40mminobs.jpg
and the lens cell http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/5505/ajustarecelulasimpletd4.jpg
Edited by Tavi F. (10/19/12 04:50 AM)
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Tavi F.
Vendor (refractor optics)
Reged: 06/27/08
Loc: Europe
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Re: Biconvex lenses with high focal ratio, for sale
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#5487095 - 10/24/12 02:25 PM
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A region of the Moon, 23rd oct. Picture taken through the D40mm (plate glass) refractor + Plossl f25mm eyepiece + Canon A530 (movie mode) with its objective set at 23.2mm f.l. 800 frames stacked and processed, single point alignment:
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Tavi F.
Vendor (refractor optics)
Reged: 06/27/08
Loc: Europe
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Re: Biconvex lenses with high focal ratio, for sale
[Re: Tavi F.]
#5558802 - 12/07/12 08:17 AM
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New offers available only this month, until the end of the year: BK7 lenses: - PRICE [lens D28mm + lens D40mm] = 26 euro.
Plate glass lenses: - PRICE [lens D40mm + lens D60mm] = 30 euro. - PRICE two lenses D40mm = 28 euro.
Note: to all effective prices, I will add the shipping cost and the PayPal fee.
Happy holidays!
P.S.: A brighter version of the previous photo (+ other details): http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/8567/luna231012d40mm800cmod3.jpg
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